mäsäxi Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 If I buy Speech Synthesizer from USA, will it work on PAL machine? I guess it is made to work on both standards, but I want to be sure before buying one. Is there anything I should know about using Speech Synthesizer? Also, will cassettes made for NTSC machine work on PAL? I started to wonder when I understood Tunnels of Doom cartridge also has a cassette. Are there certain cassette games which may not work on PAL? Does Slinky work? Thank you again in advance! MäSäXi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ti99iuc Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) I'm living in Italy and all items i have comes from USA... All working good on my TI Edited July 30, 2014 by ti99userclub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am1933 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I concur with my esteemed Italian Friend, I have had plenty of modules and tapes from the U.S that work perfectly on my 4a. The speech synth will work without incident as it draws it's power from the main console. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsy Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 There is no concept of PAL and NTSC speech synths. There is only one model of speech synth. It'll work perfectly. And they're great. I'm a bit of a minority here in the TI world - the speech synth is my favourite TI add on. Try Alpliner with speech, then try it without. Now, transport yourself back to 1982 and imagine your friends with their Vic 20's and Commodore 64's, and imagine the look on their faces when they hear "Warning! Avalanch!" Oh yeah! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I'm a bit of a minority here in the TI world - the speech synth is my favourite TI add on. Speech was my first add-on to the TI console as well. An when the Geneve came, I had to build that adapter for the P-Box just to keep it. I think the Parsec speech is best. At first I played Parsec without speech and wondered what the manual talked about with that "countdown" in the asteroid belt. When I had the synthesizer I knew. Unfortunately there were only few samples of non-English speech (try Moon Mine in Spanish!). I always wondered whether the vocal tract model of the synthesizer is generic enough for all languages, so that one could make it say "ich" in German, or "über", or "Höhle". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am1933 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 There is no concept of PAL and NTSC speech synths. There is only one model of speech synth. It'll work perfectly. And they're great. I'm a bit of a minority here in the TI world - the speech synth is my favourite TI add on. Try Alpliner with speech, then try it without. Now, transport yourself back to 1982 and imagine your friends with their Vic 20's and Commodore 64's, and imagine the look on their faces when they hear "Warning! Avalanch!" Oh yeah! "DID YOU MEAN TO DO THAT?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsy Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) Speech was my first add-on to the TI console as well. An when the Geneve came, I had to build that adapter for the P-Box just to keep it. I think the Parsec speech is best. At first I played Parsec without speech and wondered what the manual talked about with that "countdown" in the asteroid belt. When I had the synthesizer I knew. Unfortunately there were only few samples of non-English speech (try Moon Mine in Spanish!). I always wondered whether the vocal tract model of the synthesizer is generic enough for all languages, so that one could make it say "ich" in German, or "über", or "Höhle". I think it is. Afterall, the German vocal tract is the same as the English vocal tract It's all about voiced and un-voiced sounds, so I think it could reproduce (for Example) German, or even Chinese, just fine. In fact, I helped some German guys a few years ago create a song for a retro music album. I must see if I can find it. Edited July 31, 2014 by Willsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsy Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Found it :-) Bestätigung 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I think it is. Afterall, the German vocal tract is the same as the English vocal tract Don't forget though Mark that the speech synth can only pronounce German if the memory expansion is present. So it can cope with those situations where they've strung half a paragraph together into a single word ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Now, transport yourself back to 1982 and imagine your friends with their Vic 20's and Commodore 64's, and imagine the look on their faces when they hear "Warning! Avalanch!" We had Magic Voice for the 64 that worked with Wizard of Wor and Gorf: It wasn't that well known though, probably because people figured how to generate speech via software like SAM, as well as how to play back digitized samples as in Space Taxi: I don't believe Commodore made one for the VIC 20, though third party ones existed like VIC-TALKER and the build-it-yourself VIC-20 Talk-Back by Maplin (picture of an assembled unit). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 We had Magic Voice for the 64 that worked with Wizard of Wor and Gorf: It sounds a little bit like the Cylons from the original Battlestar Galactica http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ccKPSVQcFk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I think it is. Afterall, the German vocal tract is the same as the English vocal tract Cool sound! Although "Bestätigung" is not particular hard to pronounce (you'll get a free beer with pretzl for a properly said "Streichholzschächtelchen" (little match box) :-) ), but there were indeed enough words quite well audible and understandable. We have, of course, the same vocal tracts, but my concern was that the quantization into ten filter parameters is a proper model. Chinese could be another challenge, as well as Arabic, let alone Xhosa (X is a click with the tongue). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 where they've strung half a paragraph together into a single word ... Gesamtbetriebsratsvorsitzender? Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaft? Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz? Grundstücksverkehrsgenehmigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsverordnung? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Exactly. Had to fit a second hard disk to the PC just to get Google to translate that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsy Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Don't forget though Mark that the speech synth can only pronounce German if the memory expansion is present. So it can cope with those situations where they've strung half a paragraph together into a single word ... OhYeahIForgotThatGermanHasThisWeirdAbilityToStringMultipleWordsTogetherItsReallyQuiteAWeirdConceptIsn'tIt? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mäsäxi Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 Thank you, that was a relief to hear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBoy Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 OhYeahIForgotThatGermanHasThisWeirdAbilityToStringMultipleWordsTogetherItsReallyQuiteAWeirdConceptIsn'tIt? Yes we have - http://atariage.com/forums/topic/218868-ot-rhabarberbarbara/?hl=%2Bbarbara&do=findComment&comment=2871577 ontopic - a few weeks ago a bought one in the us and it works on my "PAL" TI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mäsäxi Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 I got curious about french SECAM. As NTSC games will work on PAL, I assume there is no difference if one buys TI game from france to use it on PAL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ti99iuc Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I got curious about french SECAM. As NTSC games will work on PAL, I assume there is no difference if one buys TI game from france to use it on PAL? Yes You're right. you can purchase the SECAM from France and use it on any PAL system TV/Monitor ... i purchased some of them and works great ! just them works very good on CRT Monitor/TV, on the LCDs the image quality could be not so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mäsäxi Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share Posted August 24, 2014 Thank you! No problem, I am the CRT user. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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