Flojomojo Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 There are some pictures of the inside of the machine, too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Rogue Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Interesting half of my storylines disappeared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 Interesting half of my storylines disappeared. Is that your work in the manual? Maybe they wanted to save paper or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Rogue Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 No, we did the 2 and 2+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyd97 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Is the menu screen still blurry this time around? It appears so from the pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onmode-ky Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 From the PCB image, we can see that the FB5 is using the same 2-MB SDRAM and 4-MB NOR flash memory chips as what's in the Intellivision Flashback (the ColecoVision Flashback has a 2-MB NOR flash memory chip). And all three use the Titan processor, the same as AtGames' FB3/FB4/FB64 from the past 3 years. The FB5's PCB has a 2012 date on it, presumably meaning it's a reuse of the FB4 PCB, while the INTV FB and CV FB have a 2014 date printed on their shared PCB. Strange that the manual has separate sections for the M Network and Good Deal Games games, but the system's menu just has them all in one alphabetically ordered mass. Also, check out how pieces from the end of the Crystal Castles manual entry made it into the entries for Football and Front Line. Magic hat! Interesting half of my storylines disappeared. What got left out, and what was preserved? onmode-ky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Rogue Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I don't see any of the story lines, and it looks like most of the directions were rewritten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesbroslash Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Anyone else notice how sarcastic this manual seems to be? "This game is so realistic you can virtually smell the pigskin. Yeah right." "Why go to Vegas when you can gamble on your Atari? Now this is exciting!" I think someone at AtGames hates his job. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevnaguy Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Does this version of the Flashback have the atari 2600 space invaders? The one game I would buy a atari flashback for and its not been the atari 2600 version but the atari 800 version . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyd97 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 No, we did the 2 and 2+. Are you guys ever going to release the portable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBRO Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 They really have no love for Asteroids Deluxe, Space Duel, or Yar's Return. These haven't appeared since the FB2+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Is the menu screen still blurry this time around? It appears so from the pics. It's not so much blurry as it is super-low resolution, much like the Atari VCS itself. I'm not sure why they put the box art in there, because it really looks silly in chunk-o-vision. Does this version of the Flashback have the atari 2600 space invaders? The one game I would buy a atari flashback for and its not been the atari 2600 version but the atari 800 version . It does not have that version. It has a port of the arcade version, though. I haven't played the other Flashbacks since 2+, but I think those of you with a FB4 or 64 might have seen this one before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Rogue Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 It's not so much blurry as it is super-low resolution, much like the Atari VCS itself. I'm not sure why they put the box art in there, because it really looks silly in chunk-o-vision. It does not have that version. It has a port of the arcade version, though. I haven't played the other Flashbacks since 2+, but I think those of you with a FB4 or 64 might have seen this one before. Does this version of the Flashback have the atari 2600 space invaders? The one game I would buy a atari flashback for and its not been the atari 2600 version but the atari 800 version . It was not the 800 version, that would entail them creating and installing an 800 emulator. Rather it's a version that Taito insisted on them running, basically an ARM based port of Space Invaders.Taito wouldn't allow them to use the 2600 version. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevnaguy Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 It was not the 800 version, that would entail them creating and installing an 800 emulator. Rather it's a version that Taito insisted on them running, basically an ARM based port of Space Invaders.Taito wouldn't allow them to use the 2600 version. Whoops, my mistake. it looked like the 800 version at first glance , bummer Taito would not let them use the 2600 version. thats the one i played the heck out of back then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onmode-ky Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 First of all, a bit off topic, but I'd REALLY like to know if anyone out there has an FB2+ close at hand (the 2010 Legacy Engineering-developed model commissioned by General Mills, with the sports games)? I don't have one myself, and I'd like to know in what order the games appear in the sports section and paddle section (i.e., the sections where new games were inserted). A few days ago, with the help of Flojomojo's pictures, I updated the FB5 games list at my website's Retro Plug-n-Play Video Game System Contents page (lists all the classic-era games that are reproduced in all the plug-n-play systems for which I have data--which is quite a lot). The pictures let me reorder the list to match the FB5 main menu ordering, though I also note which titles are M Network and which are GDG homebrews, unlike the main menu, and additionally record both a game's real title and the abbreviation by which it may be listed in the menu. After getting that done, I got paranoid about other lists of games on my page, and I did a ton of researching to fix other ordering and naming errors. For example, I found that the wave of SMS/GG-based systems in 2006/2007 included at least three distinct sets of SMS/GG games, not just the two I'd listed (if you want to see them, text-searching my page for "ontario" will get you to the first set, and the other two are right after it). Another example, I moved Battlezone in the FB2's list, because it's actually not alphabetically ordered in its section of the FB2 menu. Anyway, I haven't been able to find any photos or videos of the FB2+'s menu, so I haven't been able to confirm the orderings used for the sports games and Circus Atari that got added for it. I had thought about resurrecting the main FB2+ discussion topic to make this request, but it seemed to be kind of a trifling reason for reviving a 4.5-year-old thread. So, here we are. Can anyone help me? I don't see any of the story lines, and it looks like most of the directions were rewritten. I suspect that the FB5 manual entries were lifted from the Web (with or without permission, I have no idea). If you search Google for the two sentences that Nesbroslash quoted: "This game is so realistic you can virtually smell the pigskin. . . ." "Why go to Vegas when you can gamble on your Atari? . . ." both of them appear in one or two websites where someone is describing 2600 games. I assume from the tone that those sites were not simply quoting the original 2600 game manuals. They really have no love for Asteroids Deluxe, Space Duel, or Yar's Return. These haven't appeared since the FB2+ I had been wondering if they may not have shown up post-FB2+ because Atari may not own the code to them. That is, while they may own the titles, perhaps they don't own the program code that go by those titles--maybe the authors do, so they'd become another party from whom AtGames would have to license. Does anyone know whether that's the case? onmode-ky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 They only do the bare minimum for the manuals for the Flashbacks. I was allowed to write the game descriptions (though only given minimal space) for the manual for the ColecoVision Flashback, which is why those have some detail and actually explain how to play (though of course I wrote those assuming it would work exactly like an original ColecoVision, which it doesn't with the reversed buttons and missing speech). I'll see if I can get to work on the other manuals for any potential future products. I'm not so sure the Atari Flashbacks need more detailed instructions, but certainly the Intellivision Flashback does. Ideally how it would work is that they get play instructions like I did in the ColecoVision Flashback, and then have a link to the real manuals for those who want to read the real deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxpro Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 It was not the 800 version, that would entail them creating and installing an 800 emulator. Rather it's a version that Taito insisted on them running, basically an ARM based port of Space Invaders.Taito wouldn't allow them to use the 2600 version. Why is that? Has Taito gone all George Lucas and demands only a certain version of Space Invaders be available for presentation to the modern public? That's incredibly stupid on their part. Atari and AtGames should just call the original Not Space Invaders. Seems to work for the adult industry under the laws that allow for parodies. It's too bad Tengen didn't do the same with their version of Tetris after losing in court to Nintendo over the rights to the franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
privateers69 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) I seen someone put together a PDF file of all the game manuals for the Intellivision FB. Is there such one for the Atari FB? *Edited in case someone is looking for the above Inty manual. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/230208-intellivision-flashback-all-in-one-game-manual Edited November 5, 2014 by privateers69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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