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#101 decle OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:43 AM

Oh, oh, oh.  Hang on, let me go and get my ROM variation cap...

 

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...wow I haven't had a chance to put this on in ages, OK...

 

1978 - colour label, made in Hong Kong, cart has "Insert to", triangle screws, chip is 1982 week 13 (8213)

1979 - colour label, made in Hong Kong, cart has "Insert to", Phillips screws, chips (yes, there are two, despite this being a 4K game) are shrouded in an RF shield, and therefore, I cannot tell the date.

 

I would suggest that the perversely the 1978 copyright date is the newer cartridge (at least for me).



#102 mr_me OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:00 PM

Is that c1978 cartridge with a GI chip inside. If it is it would mean that in 8206 GI made a c1979 P&BJ rom and then seven weeks later in 8213 made a c1978 P&BJ rom. Mattel also sourced roms for other manufacturers e.g. ami, toshiba. It could be that the first P&BJ cartridges in 1979 had c1979 roms and the c1978 roms showed up later by mistake.

Edit: Is that c1978 8213 rom a single 4k chip? If it is than the mistake might have happened when GI switched from to 2 x 2k roms to a single rom chip. My c1979 cartridge has two chips; one is 8206 and the other is 8205.

Edited by mr_me, Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:12 PM.


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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:33 PM

My own 1978 and 1979 ROM images come from cartridges I dumped myself, ca. 1979.  I don't know, however, what box variant or any other details.  When I made those dumps, many came from my dad's original collection.  We had gotten the Intellivision before Astrosmash came out, so Poker was still the pack-in game.

 

Some fun timeline details from PapaIntellivision:

 

1979, preparing to launch:

Mattel_Electronics_Cartridge_Status.png

 

1978, preparing for CES:

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#104 intvnut OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:38 PM

Oh, oh, oh.  Hang on, let me go and get my ROM variation cap...

 

s-l500.jpg

 

...wow I haven't had a chance to put this on in ages, OK...

 

1978 - colour label, made in Hong Kong, cart has "Insert to", triangle screws, chip is 1982 week 13 (8213)

1979 - colour label, made in Hong Kong, cart has "Insert to", Phillips screws, chips (yes, there are two, despite this being a 4K game) are shrouded in an RF shield, and therefore, I cannot tell the date.

 

I would suggest that the perversely the 1978 copyright date is the newer cartridge (at least for me).

 

Hey, don't knock colorful propeller beanies.  I've got this one (and yes, that's me):

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Anyway:  All of the earliest 4K games were on two 2K chips.  The fact you have a 1978 variant with a 4K chip suggests someone screwed up when they cost-reduced from 2 x 2K to 1 x 4K.

 

It wouldn't surprise me.  In the quest to find an 8K Lock'n'Chase in the wild, I'm pretty sure I've found boards with 8K ROMs (likely 2 x 4K) holding the 6K program image.


Edited by intvnut, Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:46 PM.


#105 Lathe26 ONLINE  

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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:05 PM

My own 1978 and 1979 ROM images come from cartridges I dumped myself, ca. 1979.  I don't know, however, what box variant or any other details.  When I made those dumps, many came from my dad's original collection.  We had gotten the Intellivision before Astrosmash came out, so Poker was still the pack-in game.
 
Some fun timeline details from PapaIntellivision:
 
1979, preparing to launch:
Mattel_Electronics_Cartridge_Status.png
 

"Puppet Theatre" the game? That's a new one on me. If someone found a prototype ROM, that would be awesome. However, I would be fearful of a Rev homebrew.

#106 intvnut OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:32 PM

"Puppet Theatre" the game? That's a new one on me. If someone found a prototype ROM, that would be awesome. However, I would be fearful of a Rev homebrew.

 

This isn't the first time you've noticed it...  http://atariage.com/...t-theatre-game/

 

;)



#107 mr_me OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:37 PM

My own 1978 and 1979 ROM images come from cartridges I dumped myself, ca. 1979.  I don't know, however, what box variant or any other details.  When I made those dumps, many came from my dad's original collection.  We had gotten the Intellivision before Astrosmash came out, so Poker was still the pack-in game.
 
...

I think Poker & BJ was the pack-in right up until the Intellivision II came out in 1983.

#108 Lathe26 ONLINE  

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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:31 PM

 

This isn't the first time you've noticed it...  http://atariage.com/...t-theatre-game/

 

;)

 

"Puppet Theatre" not being new to me?  That's a new one one me.  ;-)

 

Obviously, your memory is better than mine!  :dunce:






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