+grips03 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I download and tried mte201 in jzintv, but its just baseball. The file also had a .int extension and not .bin or .rom Does this make sense? I did not see MTE201 on Intellivision rocks, is MTE201 rom on Intellivision Lives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intymike Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 MTE201 has Baseball included. But it should run after the tests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intvsteve Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 As far as I know, the MTE-201 ROM has not been distributed on any commercial product. The ROM *does* include baseball, but it should not appear until after numerous stages of tests and prompts to proceed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lathe26 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Most of the MTE-201s have you play an inning of baseball at the end (after passing all the tests). However, there are some later MTE-201s that have Night Stalker instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) In the test ROM that has Baseball, I don't see a way to access the tests as shown in this service manual: http://www.kohtz.com/andrew/intv_sm/ Edit: in the ROM I have, it jumps to Baseball right away. Edited November 25, 2014 by 5-11under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I download and tried mte201 in jzintv, but its just baseball. The file also had a .int extension and not .bin or .rom Does this make sense? You need a .cfg file to go with it. [mapping] $0000 - $0FFF = $5000 ; Baseball $1000 - $1FFF = $7000 ; The actual test program Without the config file, the test program slides down to $6000 - $6FFF and gets ignored. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lathe26 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This isn't definitive, but here are the ROM sizes I have and what happens at the end: Baseball - 8KB Test Cart v1.0 - 8KB (no game of any kind at end) Test Cart v1.0a - 8KB (no game of any kind at end) Test Cart v3 - 16KB (Baseball at end) - note that this is the most common MTE-201 version I've seen. Test Cart v3.3 - 16KB (unknown, U03 fails in jzintv4droid emulator) Test Cart v4.1a - 12KB (no game, ends at just a green screen after passing all tests) Test Cart v4.1b - 20KB (Night Stalker at end) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 You need a .cfg file to go with it. [mapping] $0000 - $0FFF = $5000 ; Baseball $1000 - $1FFF = $7000 ; The actual test program Without the config file, the test program slides down to $6000 - $6FFF and gets ignored.rename it from .int to .bin as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 This isn't definitive, but here are the ROM sizes I have and what happens at the end: Baseball - 8KB Test Cart v1.0 - 8KB (no game of any kind at end) Test Cart v1.0a - 8KB (no game of any kind at end) Test Cart v3 - 16KB (Baseball at end) - note that this is the most common MTE-201 version I've seen. Test Cart v3.3 - 16KB (unknown, U03 fails in jzintv4droid emulator) Test Cart v4.1a - 12KB (no game, ends at just a green screen after passing all tests) Test Cart v4.1b - 20KB (Night Stalker at end) they should make a MTE Lives CD with this many test carts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 rename it from .int to .bin as well jzIntv should understand the .int suffix and that it needs to read a .cfg file if it's present. This isn't definitive, but here are the ROM sizes I have and what happens at the end: Baseball - 8KB Test Cart v1.0 - 8KB (no game of any kind at end) Test Cart v1.0a - 8KB (no game of any kind at end) Test Cart v3 - 16KB (Baseball at end) - note that this is the most common MTE-201 version I've seen. Test Cart v3.3 - 16KB (unknown, U03 fails in jzintv4droid emulator) Test Cart v4.1a - 12KB (no game, ends at just a green screen after passing all tests) Test Cart v4.1b - 20KB (Night Stalker at end) If you'd like me to analyze any of these ROM images, let me know. I'd particularly like to know why U03 fails, and if it's something I've fixed since the Android port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 You need a .cfg file to go with it. [mapping] $0000 - $0FFF = $5000 ; Baseball $1000 - $1FFF = $7000 ; The actual test program Without the config file, the test program slides down to $6000 - $6FFF and gets ignored. This works. Rom on Internet is v3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) jzIntv should understand the .int suffix and that it needs to read a .cfg file if it's present. If you'd like me to analyze any of these ROM images, let me know. I'd particularly like to know why U03 fails, and if it's something I've fixed since the Android port. yes it fails in pc jzintv. It makes it to playing baseball with nostalgia. On jzintvwii it works perfect. I also have a rom version that fails in jzintv pc on u06 and a rom version that fails on u03 and u09. Also they fail on l&m Edited November 25, 2014 by pimpmaul69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This isn't definitive, but here are the ROM sizes I have and what happens at the end: Baseball - 8KB Test Cart v1.0 - 8KB (no game of any kind at end) Test Cart v1.0a - 8KB (no game of any kind at end) Test Cart v3 - 16KB (Baseball at end) - note that this is the most common MTE-201 version I've seen. Test Cart v3.3 - 16KB (unknown, U03 fails in jzintv4droid emulator) Test Cart v4.1a - 12KB (no game, ends at just a green screen after passing all tests) Test Cart v4.1b - 20KB (Night Stalker at end) Never mind. I figured it out. If you run v3.3 with the Intellivision 2 EXEC, it passes. And the ROM image for 3.3 doesn't appear to have a game in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 nostalgia needs it to be .bin to work. And yes it fails in pc jzintv. It makes it to playing baseball with nostalgia. On jzintvwii it works perfect. I also have a rom version that fails in jzintv pc on u06 and a rom version that fails on u03 and u09. Also they fail on l&m If you feed jzIntv the Intellivision 2 EXEC, that chip passes. I figured it out when I looked at the chip layout. It's the Intellivision 2 layout, not the Intellivision 1, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 nostalgia needs it to be .bin to work. And yes it fails in pc jzintv. It makes it to playing baseball with nostalgia. On jzintvwii it works perfect. I also have a rom version that fails in jzintv pc on u06 and a rom version that fails on u03 and u09. Also they fail on l&m Which IMI / test cart version fails those tests? And are you pressing "Clear" on each of the tests that require an input to proceed, not "Enter"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Which IMI / test cart version fails those tests? And are you pressing "Clear" on each of the tests that require an input to proceed, not "Enter"? yes i am pressing clear. I have no idea what versions. If i convert them to .rom they all end up with the same crc. I dont know how to really tell rom versions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Im guessing just version 3. They play baseball at the end of them. Not sure what 3.3 does Edited November 25, 2014 by pimpmaul69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) I dont have the intv 2 exec but verified that the one i used on jzintvwii is the same one i use in jzintv pc. Works on the wii but not pc. Strange. If i hit enter it fails on u04 u06 u03 and u09 Edited November 25, 2014 by pimpmaul69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Im guessing just version 3. They play baseball at the end of them. Not sure what 3.3 does Every version except V1 prints a version number in the lower left corner on the screen that shows the controller images. See the V3 here? Edited November 25, 2014 by intvnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 They are all v3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) They are all v3 Ok, cool. The current development version of jzIntv at least passes all tests in all versions of the test ROM I have. (Well, v3.3 requires the Inty II EXEC.) Older versions of jzIntv failed a couple edge-condition tests. However, I did just test jzIntv 1.0 Beta 4, and that version passed all tests in all versions as well. Edited November 25, 2014 by intvnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intvsteve Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 IIRC the later versions of the test ROM also pass on the Sears console. Some fail, I suspect, because the EXEC is slightly different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lathe26 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Never mind. I figured it out. If you run v3.3 with the Intellivision 2 EXEC, it passes. And the ROM image for 3.3 doesn't appear to have a game in it.That would make sense. The later versions of the test carts would put a 1 or 2 (maybe 3) above the version number to indicate that an Intellivision 1 or 2 was detected (maybe 3 for Sears?). When I ran v3.3, it printed 0 which made me raise an eyebrow. I didn't have time remaining this morning to investigate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) That would make sense. The later versions of the test carts would put a 1 or 2 (maybe 3) above the version number to indicate that an Intellivision 1 or 2 was detected (maybe 3 for Sears?). When I ran v3.3, it printed 0 which made me raise an eyebrow. I didn't have time remaining this morning to investigate it. Actually, that's the letter O, and it prints that whether I use the Inty 1 EXEC, Inty 2 EXEC or Sears EXEC. It looks like it's the result of a failed test for an Intellivision 2: . JSR R5, L_C6E1 ; C31C Print a string DECLE $008D ; C31F Location: $8D. (Row 7, Column 1) BIDECLE $C308 ; C320 String: ESC $02 'M' (Note: ESC n appears to set the current color) SDBD ; C322 MVII #$04FF, R4 ; C323 Point to EXEC II secret ROM MVI@ R4, R0 ; C326 Read a word TSTR R0 ; C327 Is it 0? BEQ L_C330 ; C328 Skip printing the "O" JSR R5, L_C6E1 ; C32A Print a string DECLE $008D ; C32D Location $8D (Row 7, Column 1) BIDECLE $C30C ; C32E String: ESC $05 'O' . So it appears the intent was to print a red "M" on Intellivision 2s and a green "O" on everything else. The test fails because the word at $4FF is actually $300, not $000. Oops. Edited November 25, 2014 by intvnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvnut Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Actually, that's the letter O, and it prints that whether I use the Inty 1 EXEC, Inty 2 EXEC or Sears EXEC. It looks like it's the result of a failed test for an Intellivision 2: . JSR R5, L_C6E1 ; C31C Print a string DECLE $008D ; C31F Location: $8D. (Row 7, Column 1) BIDECLE $C308 ; C320 String: ESC $02 'M' (Note: ESC n appears to set the current color) SDBD ; C322 MVII #$04FF, R4 ; C323 Point to EXEC II secret ROM MVI@ R4, R0 ; C326 Read a word TSTR R0 ; C327 Is it 0? BEQ L_C330 ; C328 Skip printing the "O" JSR R5, L_C6E1 ; C32A Print a string DECLE $008D ; C32D Location $8D (Row 7, Column 1) BIDECLE $C30C ; C32E String: ESC $05 'O' . So it appears the intent was to print a red "M" on Intellivision 2s and a green "O" on everything else. The test fails because the word at $4FF is actually $300, not $000. Oops. I said "failed," but I meant "botched," as in the logic of the test is incorrect. (A failed test would mean "I checked for an Intellivision 2, but didn't see one because it actually wasn't an Intellivision 2." A botched test means "I checked for an Intellivision 2 on an Intellivision 2, and still didn't detect it was an Intellivision 2.") 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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