Zap! Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I'm probably going to get hate mail for this, but I not only hated the Sega Scream, I despised it. I always felt that Sega as company changed forever when Sonic was released and became a huge hit. To me they are split into two parts: Pre-Sonic and Post-Sonic. Pre-Sonic, they were a very serious company that catered to more hard-core, older gamers, with very little humor. Post-Sonic, they always tried to be funny. I never liked their style of humor, and the turning point was the Sega Scream. This is not a "Sega bashing" thread by any means. I am a big fan of the original serious Sega. I just strongly prefer "The Challenge Will Always Be There" Sega. To me their real mascot will always be Alex Kidd or Opa-Opa, not Sonic and his brand of humor with a hint of trouble. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) Theater of the Eye was epic though. Edited December 11, 2014 by Cobra Commander 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algus Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I can see your point. They were locked in a battle with Nintendo to be Number One overall instead of trying to carve out a niche. It probably would have been better for them in the long run to keep to their niche instead of trying to compete directly with Nintendo. If they would have moved more towards a PS1 style of just not having a mascot (Sony dinked around with Crash Bandicoot for awhile, but that didn't stick), they probably could have come across as the more grown-up choice in the mid 90s. Instead of, you know, gimmicks and overlapping hardware releases. Oh well, the Saturn is still a great console even if it didn't get a whole lot of love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRedPlumber Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I like both "Pre-Sonic" & "Post-Sonic" eras of SEGA. I like the Sega Scream, but I like the Sega Chorus Chant even more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 Theater of the Eye was epic though. I don't deny it took a lot of talent to write that, it's just not my cup of humor. What style of humor is that even considered? It's not sarcastic, and not even close to slapstick. It seems on the dry side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Are you guys talking about the game intros where they either say "Seeeegggaaa..." all chorusy, versus "SEGA!!!?" I never really noticed it.. I just felt like Sega had moved into a new generation of console. Or, are you saying you don't like the Dreamcast? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Dart Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I think he didn't like 90s Sega. I thought they were great. Eighties Sega didn't have enough personality to set them apart from Namco and other arcade game makers. The 90s were the "play it loud" era (see Nintendo), and the Sega scream fit right in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 I think he didn't like 90s Sega. I thought they were great. Eighties Sega didn't have enough personality to set them apart from Namco and other arcade game makers. The 90s were the "play it loud" era (see Nintendo), and the Sega scream fit right in. I liked the "no personality" Sega as you put it, which is why I liked SNK and its Neo-Geo in the 90's. I also hated the 90's during the 90's (although compared to the two decades that followed it, the 90's now look amazing), so maybe it's just me. Not a fan of loudness, grunge, baggy jeans, Clinton, or techno. I do, however, like mascots. I feel SNK would have been perfect if they had one and stuck to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 Are you guys talking about the game intros where they either say "Seeeegggaaa..." all chorusy, versus "SEGA!!!?" I never really noticed it.. I just felt like Sega had moved into a new generation of console. Or, are you saying you don't like the Dreamcast? The chorus I didn't mind, I just hated the scream. Love the Saturn and Dreamcast, heart the Master System, and like the Genesis. We're talking advertising and companies as a whole, not systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhomaios Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I don't deny it took a lot of talent to write that, it's just not my cup of humor. What style of humor is that even considered? It's not sarcastic, and not even close to slapstick. It seems on the dry side. Is it even supposed to be humorous? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) SEGA!!! Edited December 11, 2014 by travistouchdown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlegamer Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Sega's 'tude marketing definitely turned me off in the 90s, despite being the exact targeted age demographic supposedly. I think the problem was their demographic wasn't actually older teens like they thought but the same little kids who played Nintendo, but wanted to seem more grown up. Actual teens didn't need reassurance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I wasn't a big fan of Sega's marketing in the '90s. I think it worked for them in the early '90s when the Genesis was posing as the system with "attitude", but I never appreciated the constant pot shots at the competition. It actually sort of turned me off of Sega's platforms (of course that mindset made a hard u-turn when I got the Genesis). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 I wasn't a big fan of Sega's marketing in the '90s. I think it worked for them in the early '90s when the Genesis was posing as the system with "attitude", but I never appreciated the constant pot shots at the competition. It actually sort of turned me off of Sega's platforms (of course that mindset made a hard u-turn when I got the Genesis). You said it best, that's exactly what bothered me about 1992+ Sega (1990 and 1991 Sega were still fine). I hated attitudes and smart alecks, despite myself being a late teen in the early '90's. Seems Sega went for the "cool dude" wannabe crowds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I was a fan in the early 90's and then all of a sudden I hated their ass. It was around the mid 90's with the 32x\CD garbage and the constant "we're better than Nintendo" crap on TV and in magazines. Dreamcast made up for it and brought me back. I still love the genny and its hooked up in the main living room. No flashcarts, just carts and controllers, the real thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+wongojack Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Theater of the Eye was epic though. I'd never seen that before. At least I don't remember having seen it. That is a truly awesome commercial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Regarding Sega and it's advertising, whilst i loved the Pirate TV adverts, SEGA really screwed the pooch as it were by hiring 'SSM Ltd' cue UK magazine adverts like: Ecco 2 -"Do it all with Ecco: weed, speed and blow" and Virtua Racing - "Score some speed from a dealer near you", worse still the 32X advert-"For mega pleasure slap this in your slot'. The (various) Saturn adverts, whilst surreal in places, were, i felt, a return to form and did'nt i think, land Sega Europe in hot water and it's advertising being raised in House Of Commons over here in the UK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianC Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I didn't care much for their marketing (I think the nintendon't ads were actually pre-Sonic), but the games is what mattered, and the Genesis delivered on that front. Sega still made nice stuff in the arcades during that time, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) I think sega was good until the 3D hype and scremaing SEGA! logo. Alex Kidd game were nice, but the character was too much of a MArio wanabee, where Sonic have a catchy personnality. Here, the Sega ads and catchphrase for the Megadrive was "Sega, c'est plus fort que toi" wich have a clever double meaning : "Sega, it's stronger than you" and "Sega, you can't resist it" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5uBIf9UuH8 Edited December 13, 2014 by CatPix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I liked the old chorus SEGA (like at the begining of the sonic games) But that one with the constipated sounding dude just screaming SEGA!!! always felt "trying to hard" to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlegamer Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I loved the original Sega jingle, I didn't know until recently how old it was, going back to SG1000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY_Lxwix2uM 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 I think sega was good until the 3D hype and scremaing SEGA! logo. Alex Kidd game were nice, but the character was too much of a MArio wanabee, where Sonic have a catchy personnality. I have always loved Alex Kidd. I don't think he was that Mario-like. He wasn't even human, and was a boy. He didn't stomp either if I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I have always loved Alex Kidd. I don't think he was that Mario-like. He wasn't even human, and was a boy. He didn't stomp either if I recall. People dub Alex Kidd as a Mario ripoff, and while yeah, I think it's clear Sega was trying to come up with a mascot at the time that could compete, but the reality is that each of the Alex Kidd games play pretty different than a Mario game (walking and jumping aside of course). I think that's for the better, because now we have two opposing franchises from back in the day (Mario and Alex Kidd) that both hold up really well (the third Alex Kidd game notwithstanding ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMaddog Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 TBH, I only liked the Sega scream ads cause I hated Nintendo at the time after they ran the whole industry with an iron fist. But then I was like 19-21 so they seemed cool at the time. The only ones I hated were the hillbillies laughing at a bug zapper and the print ads for the 32X. In hindsight I should have gotten a Genesis instead of waiting for the Jaguar to come out with more games (I know, blind fanboism...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icemanxp300 Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I racked in many hours of sonic 2. I was badass hedgehog controlling machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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