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#1 ataridave OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 3, 2015 1:46 PM

Of rare 8-bit Atari computer games, like Encounter? Like what Good Deal Games does for the 5200?

#2 Centurion OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:03 PM

I got a Berzerk prototype from Best Electronics for $15. It's a lotta fun. They also have Bruce Lee on cart, which wasn't available back in the day in cart form and maybe a couple others. Also, Video61 sells a lot of carts that might fall into the "reproduction" category you're looking for.

Hope that helps :)

#3 bbking67 OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 3, 2015 7:28 PM

There are a number of repros and fakes flying around on ebay, usually not indicated as such.  B&C Computervisions is a repeat offender selling these off as new, but they are unauthorized fakes.

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item1e797caad8

http://www.ebay.com/...=item20d162c217

http://www.ebay.com/...=item20d248bec5

http://www.ebay.com/...=item2a48b82ce3

http://www.ebay.com/...=item1e7980f2eb

http://www.ebay.com/...=item27f4a26a51

http://www.ebay.com/...=item2a49929ca8

 

What's happening here is that B&C is burning EPROMS and re-using old Atari cartridges shells and passing them off as rare or "from his personal collection" or as old atari stock that he added shells to.  It's a scam.  I've previously reported it to ebay, but they do not seem to care.


Edited by bbking67, Sat Jan 3, 2015 7:49 PM.


#4 ataridave OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 3, 2015 7:42 PM

OK, well thanks for letting me know. How does the Atari translator cartridge work? Let's say I have an 800XL, with an Astrochase cartridge which is not compatible with the 800XL. Do I just put the in the translator cart, take it out and then put in Astrochase?

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Posted Sat Jan 3, 2015 7:54 PM

OK, well thanks for letting me know. How does the Atari translator cartridge work? Let's say I have an 800XL, with an Astrochase cartridge which is not compatible with the 800XL. Do I just put the in the translator cart, take it out and then put in Astrochase?

I've never heard of a 'translator cartridge'.  The translators A & B are boot floppy.  I'm pretty sure you can get an Astrochase executable that will run on an 800XL,

maybe require a menu disk.  Have you seen a 'translator' cartridge?  If there is such a thing, you'd put the cart in, and boot a disk with the program needing the

translator.  You definitely wouldn't boot the translator cart, then take it out.  Hot swapping carts isn't normally done.


Edited by russg, Sat Jan 3, 2015 7:55 PM.


#6 bbking67 OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 3, 2015 8:59 PM

Most 800 only games have fixed versions floating around (you can find most in this very forum).  Maybe an AtariMax cartridge is what you are looking for?  You can load whatever games you want on it ad run them.



#7 ataridave OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 3, 2015 9:49 PM

I've never heard of a 'translator cartridge'.  The translators A & B are boot floppy.  I'm pretty sure you can get an Astrochase executable that will run on an 800XL,
maybe require a menu disk.  Have you seen a 'translator' cartridge?  If there is such a thing, you'd put the cart in, and boot a disk with the program needing the
translator.  You definitely wouldn't boot the translator cart, then take it out.  Hot swapping carts isn't normally done.


If you Google Video61, you will see the Video61/Atari Sales website. Get on it, and look under "New Atari 400/800/XL/XE Carts" section, and you will see a listing for an Atari translator cart.

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Posted Sun Jan 4, 2015 2:18 AM

There are a number of repros and fakes flying around on ebay, usually not indicated as such.  B&C Computervisions is a repeat offender selling these off as new, but they are unauthorized fakes.

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item1e797caad8

http://www.ebay.com/...=item20d162c217

http://www.ebay.com/...=item20d248bec5

http://www.ebay.com/...=item2a48b82ce3

http://www.ebay.com/...=item1e7980f2eb

http://www.ebay.com/...=item27f4a26a51

http://www.ebay.com/...=item2a49929ca8

 

What's happening here is that B&C is burning EPROMS and re-using old Atari cartridges shells and passing them off as rare or "from his personal collection" or as old atari stock that he added shells to.  It's a scam.  I've previously reported it to ebay, but they do not seem to care.

Not sure what you're talking about but I just looked at every one of those links and if you read the whole description it seems pretty clearly stated that it is a reproduction.

 

We found this game in a batch of stuff we bought from Atari in 1996 when they were closing. We are producing this un-released game for others to enjoy. The original had no label or case so we have made a label and added a new original Atari made case and backing. The proto board is original Atari made. This game is identical to the original un-released game I bought from Atari. IT IS NOT THE ACTUAL GAME CARTRIDGE  but a reproduction of it using original Atari parts!!! No manual or box.



#9 russg OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jan 4, 2015 6:49 AM

If you Google Video61, you will see the Video61/Atari Sales website. Get on it, and look under "New Atari 400/800/XL/XE Carts" section, and you will see a listing for an Atari translator cart.

OK, I see.  It says it works on 800 only carts, so I see how you were thinking a hot swap.  The only way I can see it working with other carts is if

it has a pass though port, like a SpartaDOSX cart.  I don't know about it.  Most cartridge games have been made into binary load programs, that

might require a 'menu' disk.

The translator disk works by boot the translator from a floppy drive, then swap to a game boot disk. 


Edited by russg, Sun Jan 4, 2015 6:54 AM.


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Posted Sun Jan 4, 2015 7:06 AM

I've previously reported it to ebay, but they do not seem to care.

14400 feedback is more important to Ebay.  They make a lot of money off of him.


Edited by tep392, Sun Jan 4, 2015 7:07 AM.


#11 AtariLeaf OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jan 4, 2015 7:09 AM

Maybe an AtariMax cartridge is what you are looking for?  You can load whatever games you want on it ad run them.

 

I've been looking to buy one of these but there are a couple of different kinds on the website. Which one should i get, considering that I just want to put games on the cart and play them, especially 800 games that don't normally work on 800xl's



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Posted Sun Jan 4, 2015 11:11 AM

Not sure what you're talking about but I just looked at every one of those links and if you read the whole description it seems pretty clearly stated that it is a reproduction.

 

We found this game in a batch of stuff we bought from Atari in 1996 when they were closing. We are producing this un-released game for others to enjoy. The original had no label or case so we have made a label and added a new original Atari made case and backing. The proto board is original Atari made. This game is identical to the original un-released game I bought from Atari. IT IS NOT THE ACTUAL GAME CARTRIDGE  but a reproduction of it using original Atari parts!!! No manual or box.

Well he is being deceptive for sure (some of the listings do not indicate that they are repros--they say homebrew).  In each and every case here, B&C does not own the rights to the programs they are selling--it is theft and they are counterfeit carts.  They are being deceptive by saying it's an Atari proto board... its an unpopulated board that they program an eeprom and stick on ebay for high prices.  B&C sells other carts that look legit... but many others are questionable.  Personally I think its deplorable.



#13 Mathy OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jan 4, 2015 11:53 AM

Hello guys

 

The Translator cart is probably like the MyDOS cart:  Put it in, boot the computer, pull it out...

 

Sincerely

 

Mathy



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Posted Mon Jan 5, 2015 7:03 AM

I got a Berzerk prototype from Best Electronics for $15. It's a lotta fun. They also have Bruce Lee on cart, which wasn't available back in the day in cart form and maybe a couple others. Also, Video61 sells a lot of carts that might fall into the "reproduction" category you're looking for.

Hope that helps :)

Does the Berzerk cart play the voice during the game? Or how does that work? Thanks!



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Posted Mon Jan 5, 2015 7:19 AM

Does the Berzerk cart play the voice during the game? Or how does that work? Thanks!

 

Yes it does. :) Gameplay pauses during voice, but it's cool enough it doesn't interfere IMO.



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Posted Mon Jan 5, 2015 7:33 AM

 

Yes it does. :) Gameplay pauses during voice, but it's cool enough it doesn't interfere IMO.

Thanks for the reply and info. How many phrases are in the A8 cart or the 5200? Anyone know?


Edited by thegamezmaster, Mon Jan 5, 2015 7:48 AM.





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