ataridave Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Of rare 8-bit Atari computer games, like Encounter? Like what Good Deal Games does for the 5200? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I got a Berzerk prototype from Best Electronics for $15. It's a lotta fun. They also have Bruce Lee on cart, which wasn't available back in the day in cart form and maybe a couple others. Also, Video61 sells a lot of carts that might fall into the "reproduction" category you're looking for. Hope that helps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbking67 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) There are a number of repros and fakes flying around on ebay, usually not indicated as such. B&C Computervisions is a repeat offender selling these off as new, but they are unauthorized fakes. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Superman-III-Cartridge-800-XL-XE-Atari-New-/130887232216?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item1e797caad8 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Last-Starfighter-Cart-800-XL-XE-Atari-New-/140951863831?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item20d162c217 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Pacman-Cartridge-800-XL-XE-Atari-New-1984-Rev-/140966936261?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item20d248bec5 http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATARI-Kangaroo-Cartridge-400-800-800XL-1200XL-130XE-XE-XL-XEGS-/181608656099?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item2a48b82ce3 http://www.ebay.com/itm/M-A-S-H-MASH-Cartridge-800-XL-XE-Atari-/130887512811?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item1e7980f2eb http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATARI-Satans-Hollow-Satans-Cartridge-400-800-800XL-1200XL-130XE-XE-XL-XEGS-/171608009297?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item27f4a26a51 http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATARI-Tower-Toppler-Cartridge-400-800-800XL-1200XL-130XE-XE-XL-XEGS-/181622971560?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item2a49929ca8 What's happening here is that B&C is burning EPROMS and re-using old Atari cartridges shells and passing them off as rare or "from his personal collection" or as old atari stock that he added shells to. It's a scam. I've previously reported it to ebay, but they do not seem to care. Edited January 4, 2015 by bbking67 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ataridave Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 OK, well thanks for letting me know. How does the Atari translator cartridge work? Let's say I have an 800XL, with an Astrochase cartridge which is not compatible with the 800XL. Do I just put the in the translator cart, take it out and then put in Astrochase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russg Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) OK, well thanks for letting me know. How does the Atari translator cartridge work? Let's say I have an 800XL, with an Astrochase cartridge which is not compatible with the 800XL. Do I just put the in the translator cart, take it out and then put in Astrochase? I've never heard of a 'translator cartridge'. The translators A & B are boot floppy. I'm pretty sure you can get an Astrochase executable that will run on an 800XL, maybe require a menu disk. Have you seen a 'translator' cartridge? If there is such a thing, you'd put the cart in, and boot a disk with the program needing the translator. You definitely wouldn't boot the translator cart, then take it out. Hot swapping carts isn't normally done. Edited January 4, 2015 by russg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbking67 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Most 800 only games have fixed versions floating around (you can find most in this very forum). Maybe an AtariMax cartridge is what you are looking for? You can load whatever games you want on it ad run them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ataridave Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 I've never heard of a 'translator cartridge'. The translators A & B are boot floppy. I'm pretty sure you can get an Astrochase executable that will run on an 800XL, maybe require a menu disk. Have you seen a 'translator' cartridge? If there is such a thing, you'd put the cart in, and boot a disk with the program needing the translator. You definitely wouldn't boot the translator cart, then take it out. Hot swapping carts isn't normally done. If you Google Video61, you will see the Video61/Atari Sales website. Get on it, and look under "New Atari 400/800/XL/XE Carts" section, and you will see a listing for an Atari translator cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 There are a number of repros and fakes flying around on ebay, usually not indicated as such. B&C Computervisions is a repeat offender selling these off as new, but they are unauthorized fakes. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Superman-III-Cartridge-800-XL-XE-Atari-New-/130887232216?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item1e797caad8 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Last-Starfighter-Cart-800-XL-XE-Atari-New-/140951863831?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item20d162c217 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Pacman-Cartridge-800-XL-XE-Atari-New-1984-Rev-/140966936261?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item20d248bec5 http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATARI-Kangaroo-Cartridge-400-800-800XL-1200XL-130XE-XE-XL-XEGS-/181608656099?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item2a48b82ce3 http://www.ebay.com/itm/M-A-S-H-MASH-Cartridge-800-XL-XE-Atari-/130887512811?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item1e7980f2eb http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATARI-Satans-Hollow-Satans-Cartridge-400-800-800XL-1200XL-130XE-XE-XL-XEGS-/171608009297?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item27f4a26a51 http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATARI-Tower-Toppler-Cartridge-400-800-800XL-1200XL-130XE-XE-XL-XEGS-/181622971560?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item2a49929ca8 What's happening here is that B&C is burning EPROMS and re-using old Atari cartridges shells and passing them off as rare or "from his personal collection" or as old atari stock that he added shells to. It's a scam. I've previously reported it to ebay, but they do not seem to care. Not sure what you're talking about but I just looked at every one of those links and if you read the whole description it seems pretty clearly stated that it is a reproduction. We found this game in a batch of stuff we bought from Atari in 1996 when they were closing. We are producing this un-released game for others to enjoy. The original had no label or case so we have made a label and added a new original Atari made case and backing. The proto board is original Atari made. This game is identical to the original un-released game I bought from Atari. IT IS NOT THE ACTUAL GAME CARTRIDGE but a reproduction of it using original Atari parts!!! No manual or box. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russg Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) If you Google Video61, you will see the Video61/Atari Sales website. Get on it, and look under "New Atari 400/800/XL/XE Carts" section, and you will see a listing for an Atari translator cart. OK, I see. It says it works on 800 only carts, so I see how you were thinking a hot swap. The only way I can see it working with other carts is if it has a pass though port, like a SpartaDOSX cart. I don't know about it. Most cartridge games have been made into binary load programs, that might require a 'menu' disk. The translator disk works by boot the translator from a floppy drive, then swap to a game boot disk. Edited January 4, 2015 by russg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) I've previously reported it to ebay, but they do not seem to care. 14400 feedback is more important to Ebay. They make a lot of money off of him. Edited January 4, 2015 by tep392 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Maybe an AtariMax cartridge is what you are looking for? You can load whatever games you want on it ad run them. I've been looking to buy one of these but there are a couple of different kinds on the website. Which one should i get, considering that I just want to put games on the cart and play them, especially 800 games that don't normally work on 800xl's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbking67 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Not sure what you're talking about but I just looked at every one of those links and if you read the whole description it seems pretty clearly stated that it is a reproduction. We found this game in a batch of stuff we bought from Atari in 1996 when they were closing. We are producing this un-released game for others to enjoy. The original had no label or case so we have made a label and added a new original Atari made case and backing. The proto board is original Atari made. This game is identical to the original un-released game I bought from Atari. IT IS NOT THE ACTUAL GAME CARTRIDGE but a reproduction of it using original Atari parts!!! No manual or box. Well he is being deceptive for sure (some of the listings do not indicate that they are repros--they say homebrew). In each and every case here, B&C does not own the rights to the programs they are selling--it is theft and they are counterfeit carts. They are being deceptive by saying it's an Atari proto board... its an unpopulated board that they program an eeprom and stick on ebay for high prices. B&C sells other carts that look legit... but many others are questionable. Personally I think its deplorable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Hello guys The Translator cart is probably like the MyDOS cart: Put it in, boot the computer, pull it out... Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegamezmaster Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I got a Berzerk prototype from Best Electronics for $15. It's a lotta fun. They also have Bruce Lee on cart, which wasn't available back in the day in cart form and maybe a couple others. Also, Video61 sells a lot of carts that might fall into the "reproduction" category you're looking for. Hope that helps Does the Berzerk cart play the voice during the game? Or how does that work? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Does the Berzerk cart play the voice during the game? Or how does that work? Thanks! Yes it does. Gameplay pauses during voice, but it's cool enough it doesn't interfere IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegamezmaster Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Yes it does. Gameplay pauses during voice, but it's cool enough it doesn't interfere IMO. Thanks for the reply and info. How many phrases are in the A8 cart or the 5200? Anyone know? Edited January 5, 2015 by thegamezmaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Atari Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 On 1/5/2015 at 7:33 AM, thegamezmaster said: Thanks for the reply and info. How many phrases are in the A8 cart or the 5200? Anyone know? On 1/4/2015 at 11:11 AM, bbking67 said: Well he is being deceptive for sure (some of the listings do not indicate that they are repros--they say homebrew). In each and every case here, B&C does not own the rights to the programs they are selling--it is theft and they are counterfeit carts. They are being deceptive by saying it's an Atari proto board... its an unpopulated board that they program an eeprom and stick on ebay for high prices. B&C sells other carts that look legit... but many others are questionable. Personally I think its deplorable. I have been dealing with Bruce of B&C for 30+ years. It was he and several other investors that bought out the old Atari plants, where houses and inventories of stock. It is my understanding that Atari shed their rights to the 8-bit line and those who made such purchases (ie.) bought products also bought the rights to the products and intellectual properties therein. If someone ELSE did have the copyrights to the afore mentioned titles they would have sued long ago. Therefore YOU cannot say illegal, immoral or deplorable. Do some research. And if you read before you condemn The three remaining companies all state Reproductions from the original ROMs. If you know not what you are talking about maybe you should do less talking... PLEASE!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danwinslow Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Wow, impressive necro bump from 2015! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) not only that, but people need to understand what was licensed to Atari as well as what was licensed with Atari as opposed to other legal instruments... Edited January 20, 2022 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oo7 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 This is funny. Is someone worried that warner atari is going to die from the b&c sales? um news flash…… 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbking67 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/19/2022 at 5:20 PM, Old Man Atari said: those who made such purchases (ie.) bought products also bought the rights to the products and intellectual properties therein. These warehouse purchases were just for the hardware itself. Guaranteed they do not own a single IP of anything. All of the Atari IP was sold off separately as it is much more valuable than the cartridges and hardware. B&C holds no rights to any game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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