+Allan Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 From the New Interview from the Antic podcast: August 3, 1984TO : Phil SuenFROM: V. WuRE : 800XL Status ReportSYSTEM ACHITECHTURE Microdisk Drive - George Nishura wrote a report on the 3 types of recording methods and their implementation cost. The 3 types are: FM, MFM, and GCR. In conjunction with Mike Barall, the disk controller was designed with the WD 1770 and ADC 8049 for MFM recording. The schematic was developed and the prototype was wirewrapped. This project is on schedule. MUFFY - this is a 68 pin package, combining FREDDIE with the functions of the MMU. It was waiting for the disk controller design prior to its pin specification. Both designs are completed. In addition, Dave Sovey and Peter Atesian have draw up a MUFFY functional block diagram. They are working on the schematic, and they expect to send it to the vendor by the middle of next week. This project in on schedule. KERI - John Hinman performed the standard ATARI home computer burn-in functional test program on a modified 800XL with KERI. He reported that KERI passed this test.DOCUMENTATION SCHEDULE - it will be available on August 6, 1984. MANUAL - I'll have to identify the marketing support responsible person to assist with the 800XL manual. SCHEMATIC - George Kulcher have been drawing up a schematic for both the 800XL and the 900XL. It is waiting on the pinout specification of MUFFY. The project is ahead of schedule. PARTS LIST - this will be generated when the schematic is finished. BOX & PACKING MATERIALS - same as the manual, I'll have to find the support displine within the company.SYSTEM SOFTWARE DISK FIRMWARE - It is currently being designed by Mike Barall. While the processor is the same as the 1450, the microfloppy firmware will be a major re-design because of the lack of a 2K static RAM and only 128 bytes of internal processor RAM memory to support 256 byte sector. OS - We are currently studying the implementation of supporting DOS like function in ROM. It will be a major OS change to support MUFFY and the microfloppy controller.NOTA BENE KERI and MUFFY will have to have test programs and equipment to qualify them during production. Currently, Peter Atesian said that we do not have the equipment of testing a 68 pins device. Sounds pretty interesting. I'm glad they never put DOS in rom though. Allan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I didn't realise they developed a combined Freddie/MMU - I guess the functionality didn't match what was needed for the XE line hence the retention of MMU and EMMU on those machines. Plus, probably cheaper to use PLA types for MMU which allows config/logic changes without any great retool/redesign costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 I don't think that Jack had the time to use these possibly-not-fully-developed boards. I'm guessing that all the people working on them were laid off. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterpiggle Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Good evening Allan, Did you have any "lost" vaporware disk images that made for Keri and Muffy Chips Prototype ? I am interesting to know what is on the disk firmware that developed by Mike Barall. Edited January 9, 2015 by Caterpiggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Good evening Allan, Did you have any "lost" vaporware disk images that made for Keri and Muffy Chips Prototype ? I am interesting to know what is on the disk firmware that developed by Mike Barall. I don't have anything. http://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/ Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hunmanik Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I noticed at https://archive.org/details/Rustad_Atari_8bit there's a second, similar memo from August 10, 1984. I thought it should be posted here next to the August 3 memo. August 10, 1984 TO : Phil SuenFROM: V. Wu RE : XL Project Status Report SYSTEM ACHITECHTURE Microdisk Drive - After a meeting with John Honig, George Nishura defined the pin/interface specification. It is a DIN connector with 14 pins. MUFFY - Dave Sovey designed the MUFFY simulator and Michael Wooding is building it. In the event that Wooding is assigned to another project, Songly Mu will be able to bring it to completion. Peter Atesian has indentified a vendor that will commit to a schedule of Sept. 20; however, a purchase order will need to be issued. Randy Hoopai is entering the MUFFY schematic into the MENTOR system. KERI - Peter Atesian informed me that ASG is developing a test program for KERI. However, the Note from the previous status report is still a primary concern. DOCUMENTATION SCHEDULE - enclosed with this status report. FUNCTIONAL SPECIFICATION - The 1450 specs is on the VAX; and it can be modify for the XL product. Randy Hoopai will be generating the XL specs. MANUAL - Phil Suen will determine whether under the new guideline, the project is responsible for the manual. SCHEMATIC - Sonly Mu is continuing the drafting of the schematic. It is still waiting on the MUFFY pinout specification that will be finalized on Aug. 15. Randy Hoopai and Gary Rubio will help to enter the schematic onto the MENTOR system. PARTS LIST - this will be generated when the schematic is finished. BOX & PACKING MATERIALS - same as the manual SYSTEM SOFTWARE DISK FIRMWARE - Mike Barall finished writing the 8049 firmware. It cannot be tested until the 6502 disk handler is written. OS - It was decided to put a FMS (DOS routines) in ROM. Mike Barall is commited to having a working OS by Oct. 31 and Tom Brightman will continue to keeping the Data General as the development tool. "Working" OS is defined as one that can be demostrated to the customers. TEST SOFTWARE(S) - John Hinman is designing a complete test program for MUFFY. NOTA BENE The initial pacing item is the availability of MUFFY. Once MUFFY is available, then the pacing item will be the system software. KERI and MUFFY will have to have test programs and equipment to qualify them during production. Currently, Peter Atesian said that we do not have the equipment of testing a 68 pins device. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) Muffy... That reminds me of the old Atari commercial where the family is in a car and the dad says "Buffy, Muffy, Biff Jr. and I are out for our sunday drive" I know Atari tended to name chips after office women, so I'm guessing they had a Muffy working there? Edited August 9, 2017 by zzip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Someone should check release date of news. Possibly the base is some 1st of April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 These are all quite accurate. This is all from data I recovered from the Atari mainframe restores I did from 2005 through 2010. I found Mark's name in the files, contacted him around that time and sent over a zip with the files in an email to discuss with him, so I guess when he did the interview he provided the files to Kevin. I have the schematic hard copies of the electronics and topology designs for the network, it was pretty much what Apple used on its Mac's for Localtalk. On Muffy and Keri - I have a physical 800XLK system with a KERI chip on it and I have schmematics done in Aug through Oct 84 with Keri and Muffy on them and using an 8049 so the work had definitely been well underway. I think due to the money constraints the Tramiels were under, the scaled back things considerable on the new XL line and had to focus more on RBP which was the companies future. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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