walter_J64bit Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 What's up with this game, from what I can see Mindscape didn't do any optimizing and just put it out the door as is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_ Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 What's up with this game, from what I can see Mindscape didn't do any optimizing and just put it out the door as is! It gets slow when lots of monsters fill the screen. Still, I have always enjoyed this port of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxpro Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 What's up with this game, from what I can see Mindscape didn't do any optimizing and just put it out the door as is! The interview with the original programmers is posted in the forum somewhere. They accurately re-created the arcade game; Atari Games/Tengen didn't provide them any source code. The game was coded to run on a 520ST with 512K; they wanted to do a 1MB enhanced version but that apparently never happened. There's videos on YouTube of the game running much smoother on an ST with a 16Mhz 68000. Just remember that the arcade original had a 68010, a TI Speech Synthesis chip, a POKEY, a YM2151, and a 6502 to manage all of that audio. It's amazing the ST version is as good as it is. Outside of Tengen's port to the Sega Genesis, it's the best version out there; and we should remember the Genesis version had a lot of original source code used plus the Genesis's YM chip is closer to the arcade's YM2151 than the ST's weaker YM2149 chip. CyranoJ has ST Gauntlet II running on the Jaguar and supporting 4 JagPads via the Team Tap. Food for thought. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The ST port rocks and Gauntlet II is even better. A 16mhz AdSpeed smoothed things out a bit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 This has got to be the only St game that I know of that needs added hardware to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 Anyone got a copy of Gauntlet US Gold version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Anyone got a copy of Gauntlet US Gold version? I do most likely with the box - but its probably buried with my XFormer cable that Ive yet to find either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_ Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 It does play much, much better on a Mega STe. The Dbug patch by Klaz I hear plays really well / fast on a Falcon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killersquirel Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Where can you find the Dbug Klaz version for the Falcon? I would love to try it out.-mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_ Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Where can you find the Dbug Klaz version for the Falcon? I would love to try it out. -mike http://dbug.kicks-ass.net/klaz/Old_Games.html#Gauntlet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killersquirel Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Thank you official ninja for the link. Looks like there are many awesome titles on this page. Are these conversions new and are they still making more conversions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_ Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Thank you official ninja for the link. Looks like there are many awesome titles on this page. Are these conversions new and are they still making more conversions? I haven't heard from Klaz since 2012 (I think). Dbug still releases a patch now and then. http://dbug.kicks-ass.net/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 Has Gauntlet II been patched to run from a Hard Drive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_ Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Has Gauntlet II been patched to run from a Hard Drive? Yes, It is listed on the Dbug site under PATCHES. http://dbug.kicks-ass.net/ I think it is in a MSA disk image. If you write the image you can copy the files to your hdd / SD device. You can also use any of the various image handling programs on the ST to extract the files. There are also tools on the pc to extract files from MSA images. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Yes, It is listed on the Dbug site under PATCHES. http://dbug.kicks-ass.net/ I think it is in a MSA disk image. If you write the image you can copy the files to your hdd / SD device. You can also use any of the various image handling programs on the ST to extract the files. There are also tools on the pc to extract files from MSA images. D-Bug 197. That could be a Jaguar menu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 Did the St's Gauntlet get Deeper Dungeons like the A8's Gauntlet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_ Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Did the St's Gauntlet get Deeper Dungeons like the A8's Gauntlet? Doesn't look like it did. http://www.atarimania.com/list_games_atari_search_71.97.117.110.116.108.101.116._S_G.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxpro Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Doesn't look like it did. http://www.atarimania.com/list_games_atari_search_71.97.117.110.116.108.101.116._S_G.html Yeah but does Deeper Dungeons add extra levels that were present in the arcade version or are they just supplemental material? I thought the arcade flipped/inverted the same levels after Level 100, or 500... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 Yeah but does Deeper Dungeons add extra levels that were present in the arcade version or are they just supplemental material? I thought the arcade flipped/inverted the same levels after Level 100, or 500... It's 500 new level's I guess you can call it "Gauntlet 1 1/2" http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-gauntlet-deeper-dungeons_5997.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ataricrypt Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Yes, It is listed on the Dbug site under PATCHES. http://dbug.kicks-ass.net/ I think it is in a MSA disk image. If you write the image you can copy the files to your hdd / SD device. You can also use any of the various image handling programs on the ST to extract the files. There are also tools on the pc to extract files from MSA images. That's an absolutely ace site isn't it. And this thread has just decided how my afternoon will play out too!! Gauntlet was cool, if badly done (hmm I wonder now about cranking up the cpu speed in Hatari?). But Gauntlet 2 is just the thing, what a classic Atari ST game it is. One of my favourite ST games ever. Thanks! Steve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Stella Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Outside of Tengen's port to the Sega Genesis, it's the best version out there; and we should remember the Genesis version had a lot of original source code used plus the Genesis's YM chip is closer to the arcade's YM2151 than the ST's weaker YM2149 chip. Always enjoyed the Amiga versions as well. Not sure what\s under the hood, but it seems very close to the originals to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calimero Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Just remember that the arcade original had a 68010, a TI Speech Synthesis chip, a POKEY, a YM2151, and a 6502 to manage all of that audio. It's amazing the ST version is as good as it is 68010 at 14MHz! http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=766 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Jaguar version is better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Stella Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Ohhh, nice.. I like the Jag version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ataricrypt Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Gauntlet 2 on the ST is for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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