Retrospect Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Hi folks. I downloaded Adventuremania after googling TI Basic games , found out that Ox had it in his Gamebase. After a lengthy download, I set it up with Classic99 .... and it loaded but didn't run! It's saying * Memory full in 1 * I listed line 1 and it didn't look too bad the arrays are not massive?! Anyone else tried this game & had the same problem? Attached is the AdventureMania game, in .dsk format (classic99 users will need to set the relevant DSK folder to dsk instead of FIAD) ADVMANIA.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Did you try a CALL FILES(1) before you ran it? Note that the array may not be large--but the free space once the program is loaded may not be that large either, so every byte may be important. There are a few BASIC programs out there that won't run with a Disk Controller present at all--and which must be loaded from cassette. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unhuman Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 And... If you're running it in XB, that could steal some bytes as well... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimes99er Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 CALL FILES(1) gave me a * MEMORY FULL IN 877 * CALL FILES(0) seems to make it run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrospect Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Thanks ... I'll go do that now. I had no idea about the CALL FILES(0) commands. The game was released only on Cassette, so yeah running it with either real metal and a disk controller or emulator will present a problem. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unhuman Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I wonder if an optimization effort may help with memory requirements... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsy Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 You should do: CALL FILES(1) NEW OLD DSK1.xxxxx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Call Files(0) is only legal in Classic 99, not on real hardware. See Willsy's post for the correct procedure and make sure you are running TI BASIC and not XB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrospect Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) cheers guys. [edit] I've just tried the call files(1) and then new, and then old dsk1.advmania ..... it loaded, it still won't run though, this time, gets the error Memory Full in 877. Definately something it doesn't like. Edited March 3, 2015 by Retrospect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ti99iuc Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) Please, if you have a PEB or nanoPEB/CF7 connected, try to disconnect and so try again with only the TI99 Basic no other Edited March 3, 2015 by ti99userclub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 If you ran out of memory on real iron while running in TI BASIC with an attached disk controller, the program is one that will normally only run from cassette--and without a disk controller attached at all. I say normally here, because it may still be able to run in RXB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+adamantyr Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Or on the TI Extended Basic 3 Supercart, but those are rare... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimes99er Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I downloaded Adventuremania after googling TI Basic games , found out that Ox had it in his Gamebase. After a lengthy download, I set it up with Classic99 .... and it loaded but didn't run! It's saying * Memory full in 1 * CALL FILES(0) seems to make it run. So did you try the above with the aforementioned Classic99 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrospect Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 Yeah, I got it working in the end. I wonder if these commands were known to people back in the day, if they had disk drives/controllers and were trying to run cassette software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimes99er Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Yeah, I got it working in the end. Good. Were there any instructions anywhere ? I wonder if these commands were known to people back in the day, if they had disk drives/controllers and were trying to run cassette software. I would have loaded from cassette, deleted some lines from the welcoming screen, saved to another cassette, attached the disk system, loaded from cassette and saved to disk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 There was a lot of general knowledge out there back in the day referencing the problems with larger cassette files. Then there are the BASIC programs using mutant versions of the language, like the programs that use the additional commands hiding in the Personal Record Keeping module, or are written for use with the Mini Memory, Editor Assembler, or Terminal Emulator II sub-dialects of TI BASIC. All of them look the same when stored too--as they're saved as PROGRAM files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrospect Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 Good. Were there any instructions anywhere ? I would have loaded from cassette, deleted some lines from the welcoming screen, saved to another cassette, attached the disk system, loaded from cassette and saved to disk. From what I remember (I've deleted the file now) ... there was instructions on how to play but not how to load. This game will have likely been written by someone who wasn't even thinking about systems with disk drives attached .... especially IF it was UK origin - where the attitude was very different to the US ... I never saw one disk for the TI back then. I like your method ..... I would have done the same given all the hardware . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrospect Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 There was a lot of general knowledge out there back in the day referencing the problems with larger cassette files. Then there are the BASIC programs using mutant versions of the language, like the programs that use the additional commands hiding in the Personal Record Keeping module, or are written for use with the Mini Memory, Editor Assembler, or Terminal Emulator II sub-dialects of TI BASIC. All of them look the same when stored too--as they're saved as PROGRAM files. Here in the UK, from what I remember we only ever had cassettes on sale for the TI, they were bedroom sellers selling by mail order, and making their own cassette inlays and instructions.... the only thing they ever told me was OLD CS1 and ENTER .... lol .... a lot of the UK attitude was that if a game cost £2.99 on tape why pay more for disk. Obviously, with the TI there was advantages with disk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ti99iuc Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) for who have interest in this game i have created a page with software download and HiRes Docs Scansions ---> HERE < (scroll the page down for downloads) Edited July 19, 2015 by ti99iuc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am1933 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Damn you Ciro!!!!!, Damn you and your "too good" tape collection 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGonker Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 you can get this and Santa and the goblins working on win994a emulator by doing the following. insert mini memory, SELECT Tibasic, then type... CALL FILES(1) NEW OLD DSK1.ADVMANIA (or santa or whatever you called it) SAVE EXPMEM2 CALL LOAD(-31888,63,255)NEWOLD EXPMEM2RUN 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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