RXB 2012/REA 2011?

atrax27407 · March 24, 2015

Anyone happen to have a copy of these that they can upload? I foolishly removed my copy from my HSGPL and can't find my backup. I have found problems with RXB 2015/ REA 2015.

+arcadeshopper · March 24, 2015

Anyone happen to have a copy of these that they can upload? I foolishly removed my copy from my HSGPL and can't find my backup. I have found problems with RXB 2015/ REA 2015.

ftp://ftp.whtech.com/programming/RXB/

atrax27407 · March 24, 2015

I probably should have been more specific. I need the GRAMKRACKER version of the files so I can convert them for use in my HSGPL card.

+arcadeshopper · March 25, 2015

I probably should have been more specific. I need the GRAMKRACKER version of the files so I can convert them for use in my HSGPL card.

Sorry I ASSumed they were in those zips.. I can create some with classic99 or you can with those files in the zip and cartsave

Greg

+arcadeshopper · March 25, 2015

RXBARK.zip

Sorry I ASSumed they were in those zips.. I can create some with classic99 or you can with those files in the zip and cartsave

Greg

+arcadeshopper · March 27, 2015

did this work?

atrax27407 · March 27, 2015

I was never able to get RXB2015 to work satisfactorily with either the Horizon MENU program or BOOT. It doesn't play well with some older, more established programs. In the final analysis, even RXB2012/REA2011 ended up being a bit redundant considering what I have on my RAMdisks. There is really no reason to have REA reside on my HSGPL card at all.

All I really need is a stable version of XB (more advanced than TI's offering) to reside in Bank 0 so I can flawlessly run some of my mouse-driven XB menu options. I simply scrapped RXB in favor of XB 2.5 (I don't need the 80-track formatting option). Besides, I have other XB variants available in other banks of my HSGPL card should I need something more exotic as far as XB commands are concerned.

RXB · December 28, 2015

What happened to the whtech site?

This link is now dead: ftp://ftp.whtech.com/programming/RXB/

+InsaneMultitasker · December 28, 2015

What happened to the whtech site?

This link is now dead: ftp://ftp.whtech.com/programming/RXB/

I clicked the link and it opened directly to the RXB folder on WHT. Maybe it was offline for a bit?

+Ksarul · December 28, 2015

I just hit it and I went off to nowhere too. . .it may be going up and down tonight.

And it is back up--less than a minute later. . .

Edited December 28, 2015 by Ksarul

+Schmitzi · December 28, 2015

for me the RXB-Link (and all other on WHT) works at the moment.

But after I click it, I have to wait around half a minute for a reaction (It never was better for me, so no problem)

Manic1975 · January 3, 2016

Hello Rich!

I have question about RXB. I try to start my game Meteors (http://tigameshelf.net/ in TI BASIC). In TI Basic scroll of stars work fine, but in RXB there is no scroll.

Is there somethig wrong or is there some other possibility to simulate stars scroll?

Dalibor

RXB · January 3, 2016

Hello Rich!

I have question about RXB. I try to start my game Meteors (http://tigameshelf.net/ in TI BASIC). In TI Basic scroll of stars work fine, but in RXB there is no scroll.

Is there somethig wrong or is there some other possibility to simulate stars scroll?

Dalibor

Where is the game in question?

You did not give the name of the game or a link to it so I have no idea how to address this issue with so little data.

Secondly some games in TI Basic take it for granted that they are using the EA Cartridge so expect those commands to be accessed.

It states clearly in the RXB documents that EA Basic commands are not available in RXB/REA cart.

How ever I fixed this issue in Classic99 or MESS or other Emulators and if you have Real TI hardware some GRAM DEVICES.

RBASIC that I wrote puts the EA Cart TI Basic Commands into the extra space of TI Basic and fixed this issue.

Presently I can not find the link to RBASIC on the ATARIAGE site?

Manic1975 · January 4, 2016

Game is in TI Basic only. No E/A code. I use only 3 in 1 module (XB, XB 2.7 and RXB. I buy it from arcadeshopper) when try to run Meteors. I try this on real TI with F18A. It has expanded memory with CF7+. I have no GRAM device or PEB. In last row of screen stars show. They are push up when another row of stars apper in the last row. This way I create scroll effect. In RXB this way doesnt work. Is there another way to create this in RXB or will this game only work in TI Basic? Try to run this game in TI Basic and then in RXB.

I put game in attach.

Thank you for your answer.

Dalibor

METEORS.zip

Edited January 4, 2016 by Manic1975

RXB · January 4, 2016

This is odd as hell, working on what is going on.

RXB · January 7, 2016

Well this is a real can of worms to deal with....

In order to see what was going on I converted the program to run on XB.

Problems were like MAX a reserved word for XB had to be changed to MX.

Characters of 152 to 159 work fine in RXB but can not be used in XB so dropped to characters 128 to 135

Color set 16 in TI Basic had to be changed to 13 for XB.

So here is the program and guess what, you get exactly the same behavior in XB.....EXACTLY THE SAME AS RXB!

10 RANDOMIZE
100 GOSUB 10000
101 GOTO 490
110 REM
114 CALL KEY(1,A,STA)
115 PRINT
120 IF STA=0 THEN 200
130 IF(A=2)+(A=3)=0 THEN 200
140 P=(A-2.5)*2
200 X=X+P
210 IF(X<3)+(X>29)=0 THEN 260
220 P=P*(-1)
230 X=X+2*P
260 CALL GCHAR(1,X,Q)
270 IF Q<>32 THEN 20000
275 CALL HCHAR(1,X,128)
280 POEN=POEN+1
290 RETURN
490 CALL SOUND(600,440,0)
500 GOSUB 550
510 ON INT(RND*7)+2 GOSUB 550,700,810,910,1010,1150,1250,1350
520 GOTO 500
550 FOR J=1 TO 9
590 FOR I=3 TO 21 STEP 9
600 CALL HCHAR(24,INT(RND*9)+I,42)
610 NEXT I
611 GOSUB 110
615 NEXT J
620 RETURN
700 RESTORE 710
710 DATA 3,2,3,5,3,7,3,9,3,10,3,10,3,11,3,11,3,12,3,12,3,12,3,13,3,13
720 DATA 3,13,3,13,3,12,3,12,3,12,3,11,3,11,3,10,3,10,3,9,3,7,3,5,3,2
730 FOR I=1 TO 26
740 READ C,D
750 CALL HCHAR(24,C,35,D)
760 CALL HCHAR(24,INT(RND*7)+16,42)
770 CALL HCHAR(24,INT(RND*7)+23,42)
780 GOSUB 110
790 NEXT I
800 RETURN
810 RESTORE 820
820 DATA 15,3,13,7,12,9,11,11,11,11,10,13,10,13,10,13,11,11,11,11,12,9,13,7,15,3
830 FOR I=1 TO 13
840 READ C,D
850 CALL HCHAR(24,INT(RND*7)+3,42)
860 CALL HCHAR(24,C,35,D)
870 CALL HCHAR(24,INT(RND*7)+23,42)
880 GOSUB 110
890 NEXT I
900 RETURN
910 RESTORE 920
920 DATA 21,3,19,7,17,11,17,11,16,13,16,13,15,15,15,15,15,15,16,13,16,13,17,11,17,11,19,7,21,3
930 FOR I=1 TO 15
940 READ C,D
950 CALL HCHAR(24,INT(RND*6)+3,42)
960 CALL HCHAR(24,INT(RND*6)+9,42)
970 CALL HCHAR(24,C,35,D)
980 GOSUB 110
990 NEXT I
1000 RETURN
1010 RESTORE 1020
1020 DATA 28,2,25,5,23,7,21,9,20,10,20,10,19,11,19,11,18,12,18,12,18,12,17,13,17,13,17,13,17,13
1030 DATA 18,12,18,12,18,12,19,11,19,11,20,10,20,10,21,9,23,7,25,5,28,2
1040 FOR I=1 TO 26
1050 READ C,D
1060 CALL HCHAR(24,INT(RND*7)+3,42)
1070 CALL HCHAR(24,INT(RND*7)+10,42)
1080 CALL HCHAR(24,C,35,D)
1090 GOSUB 110
1100 NEXT I
1110 RETURN
1150 RESTORE 1160
1160 DATA 9,3,7,7,5,11,5,11,4,13,4,13,3,15,3,15,3,15,4,13,4,13,5,11,5,11,7,7,9,3
1170 FOR I=1 TO 15
1180 READ C,D
1190 CALL HCHAR(24,C,35,D)
1200 CALL HCHAR(24,INT(RND*6)+18,42)
1210 CALL HCHAR(24,INT(RND*6)+24,42)
1220 GOSUB 110
1230 NEXT I
1240 RETURN
1250 RESTORE 1260
1260 DATA 8,5,5,11,3,15,3,17,3,18,3,19,3,19,3,20,3,20,3,21,3,21,3,21,3,22,3,22,3,22,3,22,3,22
1270 DATA 3,21,3,21,3,21,3,20,3,20,3,19,3,19,3,18,3,17,3,15,5,11,8,5
1280 FOR I=1 TO 29
1285 READ C,D
1290 CALL HCHAR(24,C,35,D)
1300 CALL HCHAR(24,INT(RND*5)+25,42)
1310 GOSUB 110
1320 NEXT I
1330 RETURN
1350 CALL COLOR(2,1,1)
1360 FOR I=1 TO 3
1400 FOR J=3 TO 21 STEP 9
1410 CALL HCHAR(24,INT(RND*9)+J,42)
1420 NEXT J
1430 GOSUB 110
1440 NEXT I
1445 CALL COLOR(2,16,1)
1450 RETURN
10000 CALL CLEAR
10001 PRINT "****************************": :TAB(12);"METEORS": :"****************************"
10002 PRINT TAB(9);: : : : : : : : : :
10003 PRINT TAB(11);"S - LEFT  ": : :TAB(11);"D - RIGHT": : :
10004 FOR I=1 TO 1200
10005 NEXT I
10010 CALL CHAR(135,"FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF")
10039 CALL CLEAR
10040 CALL COLOR(13,16,1)
10050 CALL CHAR(128,"82D67C3838101010")
10060 CALL CHAR(134,"4004114428021080")
10070 CALL CHAR(133,"00248008024008")
10080 CALL COLOR(1,4,2)
10109 FOR I=2 TO 7
10110 CALL COLOR(I,16,1)
10111 NEXT I
10120 CALL SCREEN(2)
10130 X=16
10140 CALL HCHAR(1,X,128)
10141 RANDOMIZE
10210 RETURN
20000 CALL COLOR(2,16,1)
20005 CALL SOUND(700,-6,0,698,15)
20010 CALL HCHAR(1,X,134)
20015 CALL HCHAR(2,X-1,133,3)
20020 CALL HCHAR(1,X-1,133)
20030 CALL HCHAR(1,X+1,133)
20040 CALL HCHAR(1,X,32)
20050 CALL VCHAR(1,X-2,133,2)
20060 CALL VCHAR(1,X+2,133,2)
20070 CALL HCHAR(3,X-1,133,3)
20080 CALL HCHAR(2,X-1,32,3)
20090 CALL HCHAR(1,X-1,32)
20100 CALL HCHAR(1,X+1,32)
20101 CALL VCHAR(1,X-2,32,2)
20102 CALL VCHAR(1,X+2,32,2)
20103 CALL HCHAR(3,X-1,32,3)
20110 FOR I=1 TO 400
20120 NEXT I
20130 FOR I=24 TO 19 STEP-1
20140 CALL HCHAR(I,10,32,12)
20150 NEXT I
20160 T$="2214 "&STR$(POEN)
20170 GOSUB 21000
20180 FOR I=1 TO 500
20190 NEXT I
20200 PAR=PAR+1
20210 IF PAR=3 THEN 20240
20220 CALL CLEAR
20230 GOTO 490
20240 T$="2011 GAME OVER"
20250 GOSUB 21000
20260 FOR I=8 TO 13
20270 CALL HCHAR(I,10,32,12)
20280 NEXT I
20281 IF POEN<=MX THEN 20290
20282 MX=POEN
20290 T$="0911 HI-SCORE"
20300 GOSUB 21000
20310 T$="1114 "&STR$(MX)
20320 GOSUB 21000
20330 CALL KEY(3,R,STAT)
20340 IF STAT=0 THEN 20330
20350 IF R=68 THEN 20380
20360 CALL CLEAR
20370 END
20380 POEN=0
20385 PAR=0
20390 P=0
20400 X=14
20410 CALL CLEAR
20420 GOTO 500
21000 RI=VAL(SEG$(T$,1,2))
21010 CO=VAL(SEG$(T$,3,2))
21020 FOR L=5 TO LEN(T$)
21030 A=ASC(SEG$(T$,L,1))
21040 CALL HCHAR(RI,CO,A)
21050 CO=CO+1
21060 NEXT L
21070 RETURN

So the flaw was built into XB...OMG a new bug we did not know about in XB after 30 years!!!!!

+InsaneMultitasker · January 7, 2016

Which line contains the problem?

RXB · January 7, 2016

Which line contains the problem?

Oddly the problem is TI Basic used a different type of SCROLL then Extended Basic does.

XB used a XML routine in the ROMs of XB, while TI Basic used a GPL version.

If you use in RXB these lines:

115 CALL MOVES("VV",736,32,0)

116 CALL HCHAR(24,1,31,2,24,3,32,28,24,30,31,2)

This will give you exactly the same program as TI Basic perfectly. The problem is the PRINT in XB is just not like TI BASIC PRINT!

+Ksarul · January 7, 2016

Nice bit of sleuthing there, Rich!

+InsaneMultitasker · January 7, 2016

Very interesting! If I understand the flaw properly, PRINT does not scroll row 24 if the characters were placed there by a routine other than PRINT?

Manic1975 · January 7, 2016

OMG!! I didn't realise this when I try to put this game in XB many years ago. WOW! I hope this bug wan't carry my name. ))

RXB · January 7, 2016

Ok you win bug is officially now the Manic XB scroll bug.

RXB · January 7, 2016

Very interesting! If I understand the flaw properly, PRINT does not scroll row 24 if the characters were placed there by a routine other than PRINT?

Yea after 30 plus years no one ever noticed this.

I wasted 2 days thinking it was a RXB problem, until I went to RXB 1005 and it was there and that made it impossible to be RXB as no modifications in RXB could have done that.

So that meant it had to be a XB problem, looking at the GPL code showed XB and and RXB are exactly the same where the PRINT and DISPLAY routines reside.

I could fix it in RXB so that goes away using GPL instead of the ROM XB used.

In answer to your question yes the ROM SCROLL routine in Assembly does copy line 24 between column 3 and 29, so a major bug missed.

senior_falcon · January 8, 2016

Here's how the two dialects of BASIC handle PRINT:

TI BASIC - prints only what you tell it to print, then scrolls the screen. If you tell it to simply PRINT then it prints nothing on the screen, and then scrolls the entire screen.

TI Extended BASIC - prints what you tell it to print, then prints spaces to the rest of the line up to column 31, then scrolls the screen. If you tell it to simply PRINT then it prints 28 spaces to the bottom row from column 3 to column 30, then scrolls the entire screen.

I wouldn't call this a bug; it's just a different way of handling PRINT. In fact you could argue that not blanking the rest of the line is a bug in TI BASIC. It is unfortunate that the two do not behave the same way. In any case, fixing XB to behave like ti basic would almost certainly cause trouble with other programs that rely on the normal XB behavior.

One way to (almost) get around this is to start with PRINT(TAB 28);

Then change all the prints to PRINT(TAB 28);

This prints one space to row 24, column 30 and then scrolls the screen. I have not found any way in XB toavoid printing that single space.

Manic1975 · January 8, 2016

I agree that this is maybe not a bug. There are many diferences betwen TI BASIC and XB. Maybe we should leave it this way. Another question is how to update RXB on cartridge without burning rom again.

I have 3 in 1(XB, XB2.7 and RXB) module from arcadeshopper. I'am not in position to sent rom to reburn(Croatia is in Europe).

Edited January 8, 2016 by Manic1975

RXB 2012/REA 2011?

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