ti99iuc Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) Hi, is this game in TI- or in Extended-Basic ? (as there is mentioned "XB" in the filename) thanks for all that work Yes, TI BASIC as i specified in everywhere other i fixed name and something in the file contents also. i'm glad to know you appreciate my work thanks Thank you RenegateG1 for your support and PM message too ! Isn't this Atlantis game the one that Keith was trying to restore on the Raising Atlantis thread several years ago? You're right ! it is ! i completely forgot about this... and reading that thread i discovered that tursi done some mods at the programs... but i can't found the originals i could insert in the .ZIP file of the DB on my website ! Some good ideas, Nukey, and I took a stab at this incorporating your advice. Unfortunately, TI BASIC is picky about the nesting of FOR..NEXT loops and rejected the attempt to combine the endings. I did get some progress.. I got the game to load and start under TI BASIC with CALL FILES(1), but it is still not quite there - it will run for a screen or two then run out of memory. One problem is that the game uses very long strings for data and thus it needs enough spare RAM to be able to manipulate those strings. Since garbage collection may not always be able to create a large enough block, you can run out at somewhat random points. Unfortunately, the game does not work under XB -- it complains about the strings being too long! (Also uses characters not available in XB. Would it work under RXB?) I'm posting what I got after an hour or so of fiddling around. Besides some very minor tweaks, I removed the obfuscation from the string print routine and made separate joystick and keyboard versions so I could remove that menu and option (in truth, neither saved very much memory compared to what we need). But, if someone else wants to take a stab at it, this version at least /starts/ with CALL FILES(1). In addition to the original files from Trev, I've added three: ATLTURS - full game with my mods ATLJOY - joystick only version ATLKEY - keyboard only version If you look at a diff, the Joystick and Keyboard versions save very little in-line, it's just the removal of the menu that makes it worthwhile. But again, this is still not 100%. Even with CALL FILES(1) it runs out of memory as you move from screen to screen. Tursi, could you help me to have your additional files please ? Edited July 26, 2015 by ti99iuc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Wow.. that's a necro. I don't remember anything about this, anything I had would have been uploaded in that post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ti99iuc Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 no way man, sadly i can't find any link of your files in that original post ... so i had hoped that you had something of this in some hidden part of your hard disk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 hehe... well, I may be blind, but I can't even find my original post that you quoted there! Whatever I was trying to do there, I didn't succeed... there's a good chance I didn't save it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Unless you sent the three files you identified in the post directly to Keith and/or Trev, Tursi, as they were the individuals working on the original project. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I wouldn't have posted here if I did that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ti99iuc Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 INTRIGUE PENTATHLON -------------------- >> downlaod page << + Docs enjoy !!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeG1 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 INTRIGUE PENTATHLON -------------------- >> downlaod page << + Docs enjoy !!! I remember having this! There must be another box of TI99 bits in my parents loft somewhere as this wasn't with the bits I did find.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ti99iuc Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 -------------- >> downlaod page << (.dsk, .TIFiles, .Wav, FiadFile, .TXT) + Docs Enjoy !! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ti99iuc Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 >> downlaod page << (.dsk, .TIFiles, .Wav, FiadFile, .TXT) + Docs Enjoy ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am1933 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Just got myself a copy of Hunchback by Lantern software, I already had the regular version with the black and yellow cover but this one is in a clam case complete with full colour cover, it is in mint condition and looks as if it has never been used. Will post a picture as soon as I get a chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckoba Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Resurrecting this thread from the dead ... ... I didn't see any successful dumps of Roady Toad, and I managed to get it decoded from the cleaned-up mono version. Sorry about the delay. Attached as a gzipped TIFILES. roady_toad.tifiles.gz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckoba Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 ... and here's Draughts. draughts.tifiles.gz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 . Hi I made a .DSK from them xXx roady_toad+draughts-Dr.Hogs.dsk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 I played "draughts" (Checkers/Dame), and I luckily made a triple jump, ending up on the top row. So I got a "draughts" for that, but the 3 stones I´ve jumped over were not vanishing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckoba Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 It turns out "roady toad" is slightly too big for regular program format, so I've rebuilt the binary as an IV254 from dumped source. Whereas before it would crash the system in interesting ways during loading, it now gets to the play screen. Sorry about that. Attached are gzip'ped TIFILES image (for "roady toad" only) and a .dsk containing both. roady_toad+draughts-Dr.Hogs_v2.dsk roadytoad.tifiles.gz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 There is a trick you can use in CLASSIC99 to set up the memory to match the size/environment of the console without an attached disk system. A lot of these nice tape games used every last byte of the available memory space on unexpanded systems and bombed when there was a disk system attached. Try the normally illegal CALL FILES(0) command with the unmodified program and it may run. The modifications you did to make it work as an IV254 file are another way to get there, especially if you have the full source file, and has the benefit of making the program work for anyone using real iron and disks. Many thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckoba Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) There is a trick you can use in CLASSIC99 to set up the memory to match the size/environment of the console without an attached disk system. A lot of these nice tape games used every last byte of the available memory space on unexpanded systems and bombed when there was a disk system attached. Try the normally illegal CALL FILES(0) command with the unmodified program and it may run. The modifications you did to make it work as an IV254 file are another way to get there, especially if you have the full source file, and has the benefit of making the program work for anyone using real iron and disks. Many thanks! I thought on that a bit, and decided that making it work with a disk-capable system covered the more common use cases. Of the people using emulation, I'd reckon that 100% of them are going to be using emulated disk, and of the people using real iron, probably 80% of those have disk systems ... ... or RAM expansion. That was the factor that tipped it over -- I could not get it to run with a 32k expansion, full stop. It'd load from my cassette emulator fine, but would crash during the pre-run crunching with a random error (and I know that the RAM in both of my systems is known-good). For BASIC/Extended BASIC programs, programs can always be de-tokenized to source with xbas99.py from the xdt99 project. (Well, now it can -- I added support for TIFILES IV254 decoding and have submitted the patch). xbas99.py needs a little more TLC before it can correctly re-tokenize a program into IV254, and I haven't time for that at the moment, so TIImageTool did the needful (and pointed out a few end-of-line-whitespace bugs in xbas99.py). What should probably be done, since this is natively an Extended BASIC program, is to use one of the program crunchers I remember from back in the day to combine lines to recover as much space as I can. Maybe then it'll be small enough to fit into the size of a regular program file, but I think this is good enough for now. Edit: turns out I was a bit wrong about xbas99.py not supporting IV254 read. It does, but it needs to be fed "--long" so that all of the padding and record markers are removed. It does not emit those bits when re-tokenizing; I'll fix that and submit soonish. Edited April 6, 2016 by ckoba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrospect Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I've no idea where else to type this, so in this thread it goes ... but did you know, if you type RUN "CS1" in extended basic, it goes through all the normal stuff on screen with cassettes loading, then when it says Press Cassette Stop then Enter, press enter and game runs without you having to type run. I only thought that worked for disk loading. Ah well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyDean Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Are you trying to list the program or just run it? You should be able to OLD CS1 and then list your program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrospect Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Are you trying to list the program or just run it? You should be able to OLD CS1 and then list your program. Just running it. I just didn't realize that CS1 had the "run" capability with cs1 in speech marks! Edited May 12, 2017 by Retrospect 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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