Mathy Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Hello guys Could you please resize your pictures before you attach them to your postings? What's the use of a picture when I have to scroll it in al directions to get an idea of what's on it? OK, if we need the details, go ahead and post very high res. pictures, but often there's no need to upload a picture that's got more pixels than the average screen. Thanks! Sincerely Mathy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 If you are using Firefox, then you may use ctrl- to reduce size, ctrl+ to increase, and ctrl0 to restore to normal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Actually, depending on the pictures, I disagree strongly... Like the E3 Atari pics... I wanted to see the detail. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 and you can always click the save icon then it's nicely viewable using your own picture viewer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morelenmir Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I take great care to post the highest resolution pics I can to be honest Matty. That is because I generally, at least just lately have been uploading pictures of the motherboard and my various mod workings. I think in those situations there is a lot of sense in being able to see every detail - maybe an inadvertent solder-bridge I had missed first-hand or a miss-socketed leg or some detail you would need a magnifying lense to see otherwise - even identifying the lettering on individual IC's for instance has been very useful. Horses for courses though; in some cases there is no need for a huge image I agree. Equally we are all in business of archiving the Atari past and every image shared is an image preserved. In those cases high resolution is again a good thing. Also, practically there are ways around being overwhelmed by them as Kyle22, Brenski and others have suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 On the other hand, I hate when posted screenshots come up in little 320x200 windows. I'd really like to see a 2X version for studying the detail in RastaConverter pictures. But yeah, posting a picture straight from your 20MP camera is bit unkind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Big pictures can take a while to load on slower connections (like mine), but then again I like to see detail where detail is desirable. A DIN-5 wiring diagram probably doesn't need to be 14 megapixels; on the other hand, a photo of a complete motherboard probably needs to be bigger than 640x400. Common-sense is easily applicable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 Hello guys That's what I said! Use high-res. pictures where needed. But for instance a picture of a XC11 in 2448 x 2448 pixels? Half that size would still be more than big enough. I can open the pictures in Safari in another tab, but I'll still need to download all those bytes. Guys, I just want to look at the pictures. Why would I want to download all of them (after scrolling to the lower right hand corner) and then resize all of them? Maybe Albert could increase the thumbnails to 640 x 480 bytes. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Obviously mixed opinions about this. Isn't there a feature in this forum software that the picture will be shown at the size of the browser-screen currently supports? (so a full view without scrolling). If people would like to see the high-resolution version, one could save the picture. I am afraid no user here has enough influence to 'educate' people about this, so perhaps Albert can built in some support here. I think more places on the internet suffer from this 'problem', although I must say I don't have a problem with the hi-res pictures at all. Edited June 22, 2015 by ProWizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MacRorie Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Hello guys That's what I said! Use high-res. pictures where needed. But for instance a picture of a XC11 in 2448 x 2448 pixels? Half that size would still be more than big enough. I can open the pictures in Safari in another tab, but I'll still need to download all those bytes. Guys, I just want to look at the pictures. Why would I want to download all of them (after scrolling to the lower right hand corner) and then resize all of them? Maybe Albert could increase the thumbnails to 640 x 480 bytes. Sincerely Mathy Well, since they were my pics that were the ones in question, those are just the standard iPhone resolution. I was taking them for my benefit and sharing them with the forum because I thought people would enjoy them. My apologies, next time I will just have them as thumbnails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1050 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Large pictures and/or files are entirely unworkable on this site due to non-resuming servers for dial up users. For years on dial up I had my sister download them by topic url and then email them to me because this server would always cut me off after 10 minutes. No resume, you can't there from here using dial up. But how many people have this problem? Not many and there is the reason it doesn't change. SOME pictures are excessively huge, I agree with that basic point. Quite a few users like it that way though so I don't see a ready solution as if I knew enough about it to suggest one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 The picture viewer is part of the problem. Most browsers make a fine job of opening up a raw link to a JPEG and scaling it to fit the window. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Yeah, modern cameras take nice, HUGE, high-definition pixel packed photos... megabytes in size. To make these more manageable on 90% of the stuff I put on Atari Age, I re-size the images to something much smaller, then save it as a slightly lower quality image to decrease it's physical size even further, because in most cases, on a monitor, you'll never notice the difference. Not only will it reduce load times for people, it might save a cellphone user some data costs and it also saves some space on Albert's server. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morelenmir Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I think before I paid the subscription I actually couldn't upload high-res images at all. Maybe that was just a fluke with my connection at the time though. I have a terrible 8mbit - which is actually 6mbit at best - ADSL line that costs more each month than my best pal on 100mbit+ cable pays every year. Not a situation I am happy with in 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Nobody knows ideal decision. Sometimes we need high resolution for reading text or watching wiring sometimes not if we need wide scena. Modern displays add disambiquations because when we are looking on 'normal sized' picture on hires but little sized display we see very small picture. Normally I trying to scale picture into web size, but I never be aware of recipient screen resolution. Really I don't know decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaGtGruff Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 it also saves some space on Albert's server. ^^^ This. I agree that sometimes large pictures are desirable, and other times they're overkill, but I think the amount of server space they take up is more important than how annoying slower load times or the need to scroll the browser window is for us. Since this issue is more likely to pop up with photos taken by high-resolution cameras, perhaps a few good rules of thumb might be to (1) always scale photos down to reasonable dimensions before attaching them; (2) always use JPG, PNG, GIF, or some other compressed format (personally, I hate JPG artifacting, as well as GIF dithering, so I vote for using PNG); and (3) consider cropping photos so they include only the relevant portions. Of course, the problem with rules of thumbs is that there are always exceptions, so the final rule of thumb should be "follow all of the preceding rules of thumb as appropriate, and break them as needed." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 IP.Board needs a photo resize option. If you're uploading an actual-size 300dpi aerial image of Manhattan, it should ask if you'd like to reduce it to some standard size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8bitCarts Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Hello guys Could you please resize your pictures before you attach them to your postings? What's the use of a picture when I have to scroll it in al directions to get an idea of what's on it? OK, if we need the details, go ahead and post very high res. pictures, but often there's no need to upload a picture that's got more pixels than the average screen. Thanks! Sincerely Mathy I agree, I would rather not scroll back and forth and up and down to look at an extremely fuzzy pic Now if it was clear, maybe... And it's not a browser issue. The web is not print quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Hmm. I dont even know how to put a avatar pic on Atari age. It always says file size too large. Even if I crop and take a pic on the lowest setting. Maybe I need to get my kodak brownie 110 and take a pic and develop the film and scan in black and white on the betamax setting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
576XE Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 And again Where are the BOSS recomendations? Max sizes for example. Modern cameras gives very big pictures... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sargie Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Err... No? Posters: Please keep posting the pictures at their native size. People who don't like large pictures: It's 2015 - **Cell phones** take massive pictures and our computers can easily display or scale them... If you need them smaller please download them then convert them to a size that suits you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Err... No? Posters: Please keep posting the pictures at their native size. People who don't like large pictures: It's 2015 - **Cell phones** take massive pictures and our computers can easily display or scale them... If you need them smaller please download them then convert them to a size that suits you! Hmm I find this a not so kind response on a quite normal question. Mathy is very aware that it is 2015, and when I read his question, the conclusion is that he found a shortcoming here on AtariAge, that images posted, many times are very hard to handle, since they do not fit in screen. I find that unhandy too. He asks posters to resize... I think that that question is not the best solution (it will not work anyway, since people will not change their way of forum use). The best solution is that this forum software will handle the pictures in a different way (perhaps a picture could be showed on a browser-max-resolution when people click on the picture, and when they download the picture they'll get the uncompressed file?) That would be best for everyone (pics stay large and detailed, but are good to handle) I think Bryan gives the best conclusion (see below). IP.Board needs a photo resize option. If you're uploading an actual-size 300dpi aerial image of Manhattan, it should ask if you'd like to reduce it to some standard size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 A picture or illustration should fit the situation (as said previously). I find it inconvenient to have to scroll both ways on my 1920 X 1080 display. It is problematic at times not to be able to see the whole picture together. OTOH, it is also annoying to find that someone posts (essentially) a thumbnail and then when you click it, it is the same size! And hopefully, I practice what I preach, since I always use a camera that takes 8 or so MP pics, and then use a commonly available re-sizing Win tool (XP and Win7) before posting them. -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenjennings Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 The picture viewer is part of the problem. Most browsers make a fine job of opening up a raw link to a JPEG and scaling it to fit the window. Yes!. That semi-modal pop-out of the picture is the most annoying thing about the AtariAge site. Please, if it could just open to a new tab and let the browser deal with the picture then picture handling would be more convenient. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sargie Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 ProWizard - no offense was intended to Mathy. Mathy - if you felt hurt by my post them I apologize. It is never my intention to deliberately hurt someone else's feelings. My point / opinion is this: 1. I am very grateful to people who take the time and effort to post images. 2. I am very grateful to people who take the time to make this forum available in the first place. Neither of the above need to do these things and I expect **nothing extra** from these people at all. They are gracious with their time and efforts enough already. I don't want group 1 above to **not** post images because: 1. They have to jump through **too many** hoops to get the images on the forum (by having to take extra time to resize images, for example). Any kind of extra step might be enough to stop some people posting pictures and I would not like to see that. 2. Because they see posts that say "What's the use of a picture when I have to scroll it in al directions to get an idea of what's on it?" when actually there are a **lot** of uses to this kind of picture AND not everyone has this "issue" in the first place because screen resolutions are getting bigger all the time and we can display the pictures just fine, thank you... If there is a technical solution that doesn't introduce difficulty for the posters AND the people that run the forum can implement it without costing them too much time or trouble or money then great! That will be excellent. If not, and you are afflicted by this "problem" then please download the images and resize them yourself if you want to see them at a size your monitor can handle. Please don't make extra work for people who are graciously giving you their time and effort for free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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