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#1 Red 5 OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:10 PM

I know, I know... I am never here anymore... I'm sorry... So if this was discussed I apologize.

 

http://kotaku.com/an...-bad-1717759403

 

Is this the first we have seen of this 'near complete' version of xevious for the 2600?  I am guessing probably not...  If not, can we make them and has them!?! (Albert?)

 

 



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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:20 PM

Wow...that seems more like satire of how bad 2600 ports were, not an actual 2600 port. Poe's law I guess.

 

Did they use weird parallelogram sprites and then make various things out of those to save memory?



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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:26 PM

Yucky


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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:34 PM

I think that's a pretty good 2600 port of Xevious, for the time.



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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:53 PM

http://atariage.com/...date/?p=3092559



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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:01 PM

Nice, I'd not have minded having that back in the day.



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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:23 PM

A decent port of Xevious and a real good effort on the 2600.

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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:29 PM

I hope this means I can release the rom soon.  



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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:31 PM

I hope it means that too!  If it does mean that, please contact me so I can get it, preferably on a cart.  I think it looks pretty good. 


Edited by Red 5, Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:32 PM.


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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:35 PM

They don't show the "phosphor effect" in their video/capture. So it blinks.
The prototype is far better on real hardware...

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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:18 PM

Gave it a go on my modded xbox. I have to say. I really enjoy this! Can't wait to see it on the cart.

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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:19 PM

So they released the rom then?

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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:29 PM

So they released the rom then?

It's on coolroms. Here is the link.

http://m.coolrom.com...255/Xevious.php

Edited by Retrogamer81081, Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:30 PM.


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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:31 PM

That is probably the old one.



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Posted Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:05 PM

Yeah it is. For a moment there I was wondering. :)

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Posted Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:28 AM

Wow! Amazing find! The intro sound is quite impressive!



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Posted Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:41 AM

My review is here: http://www.atariprot...ous/xevious.htm



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Posted Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:13 AM

It's been said back on Facebook that the Digital Museum won't release the ROM unless they receive permission [which would be from Namco and "Atari"]. Had it been donated here instead, it probably would've been a different story.

 

Too bad Tod - assuming the donation didn't come from him - didn't hold onto all of his stuff back then.  It would be interesting to finally see what he was able to accomplish on 2600 Ballblazer.

 

It's also a shame Atari didn't convince the likes of Tod and HSW to make games for the 5200 [or had Atari Inc survived, for the 7800]. I asked HSW about that when he was in Sacramento a few weeks ago and he said many asked him to do 5200 games - and that it would've obviously been easier to program for - but he was more interested in making games for the 2600's much larger installed user base.



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Posted Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:43 AM

That's disappointing. I have been checking the forums for info and was hoping to play the newer prototype on harmony cart.

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Posted Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:29 PM

That's disappointing. I have been checking the forums for info and was hoping to play the newer prototype on harmony cart.

 

One of the members of the Digital Games Museum posted comments in the Atari Museum Facebook group about not being able to share the ROM at this moment.



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Posted Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:14 PM

 

One of the members of the Digital Games Museum posted comments in the Atari Museum Facebook group about not being able to share the ROM at this moment.

 

Isn't that what you just said?



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Posted Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:13 PM

 

Isn't that what you just said?

 

I clarified where it was said exactly since you mentioned you had been reading forums and obviously you hadn't read that info yet.



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Posted Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:16 AM

It is exactly these proto scenarios that annoy me the most.

When your dealing with an uncooperative individual, it can be frustrating & it requires more time & work, but rest assured, it is at least a tangible situation. Eventually, money talks and bullshit walks. But when your dealing with a conglomerate, or a bureaucratic fool, your hands are tied. There is almost no chance of ever obtaining the data cooperatively.

Personally, I don't see how the present day incarnation of Namco, much less the distant bastard child of what once was related to Atari, has absolutely anything in common with their 1983/84 counterparts. IMHO they have as much claim to that data as Tod Frye does. Not to mention the fact that regardless of that, the data has zero value to either company anyhow. They couldn't do anything with it; marketing wise. 0.0000001% of the population on planet earth gives a crap about the data on that cartridge, and 99.9% of that population is right here in this site. It's all such stupidity. On the part of both the person who donated the item because they donated it to the wrong place, but more so on the part of the entity who received the item for following the proper procedures & treating 8kb of obsolete 1984 data from a long since out of business company (Atari) the same way as some brand new 8GB game from a multi billion dollar company (Microsoft)

The funniest part about the whole thing is that we already have the data, and had it before they did for that matter! And eventually, it will become shareware one way or the other, and so they really have no control or power over it whatsoever! It's just the principle of the whole thing, that's all. Absolute stupidity.

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Posted Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:00 AM

 
I clarified where it was said exactly since you mentioned you had been reading forums and obviously you hadn't read that info yet.


Thanks, but I think you misunderstood. I was saying I was disappointed that the rom was unlikely to be released and meant I have been checking the forums constantly. I checked facebook and the message about the ROM not being released is actually on youtube.

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Posted Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:31 AM

It is exactly these proto scenarios that annoy me the most.

When your dealing with an uncooperative individual, it can be frustrating & it requires more time & work, but rest assured, it is at least a tangible situation. Eventually, money talks and bullshit walks. But when your dealing with a conglomerate, or a bureaucratic fool, your hands are tied. There is almost no chance of ever obtaining the data cooperatively.

Personally, I don't see how the present day incarnation of Namco, much less the distant bastard child of what once was related to Atari, has absolutely anything in common with their 1983/84 counterparts. IMHO they have as much claim to that data as Tod Frye does. Not to mention the fact that regardless of that, the data has zero value to either company anyhow. They couldn't do anything with it; marketing wise. 0.0000001% of the population on planet earth gives a crap about the data on that cartridge, and 99.9% of that population is right here in this site. It's all such stupidity. On the part of both the person who donated the item because they donated it to the wrong place, but more so on the part of the entity who received the item for following the proper procedures & treating 8kb of obsolete 1984 data from a long since out of business company (Atari) the same way as some brand new 8GB game from a multi billion dollar company (Microsoft)

The funniest part about the whole thing is that we already have the data, and had it before they did for that matter! And eventually, it will become shareware one way or the other, and so they really have no control or power over it whatsoever! It's just the principle of the whole thing, that's all. Absolute stupidity.

 

Let's remember that the game was donated anonymously. There's possibly a legal concern, otherwise the donor probably would've allowed their name to have been released.

 

I'm not going to name names, but I've spoken to one ex-Atari Inc programmer earlier this year [no, not Tod Frye or HSW] and he was really concerned about the whole legal uproar over the current "Atari" vs Jeff Minter enchilada. The ex-Atari Inc programmer community isn't large and word travels around quickly in the Bay Area so if he has concerns about prototypes, finishing up unfinished prototypes, writing new pro-homebrews for Atari consoles or modifying/improving upon existing releases, then you can theorize he's not alone with those exact sentiments. 

 

The Jeff Minter situation is just the newest addition to a list of existing concerns from ex-Atari Inc and Corp employees. Let us not forget that the 5200 Warlords programmer won't release the ROM or source code because he believes his contract with extinct Atari Inc is still valid. If I'm not mistaken, Curt in the past has alluded to several ex-Atari Inc people who took stuff [prototypes, software, etc] during the Atari Consumer sale to TTL still holding onto stuff secretly and anonymously due to fears of civil legal liabilities even to this day. The former employees of the company that bought the rights to the Atari AMY audio chip still won't discuss the legal proceedings against them by Atari Corp and likewise, ex-Atari Corp and ex-Commodore staff still won't divulge the details of the Amiga lawsuit settlement.  

 

In light of all of that, perhaps we are being too critical of the anonymous donor for having donated it to the Museum instead of AtariAge. It's a shame in some aspects but it's probably totally due to the current legal climate and corresponding uncertainty. 


Edited by Lynxpro, Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:32 AM.





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