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#1 Philsan ONLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:17 AM

Together with ABBUC's new magazine I received new Turbo-Basic XL Handbuch.

 

Thank you ABBUC!

 

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#2 fujidude OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:48 PM

Too bad I only know English.



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Posted Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:36 PM

Too bad I only know English.

I'm sure it can be translated soon.



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Posted Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:40 PM

If someone can send me the text of the book maybe I can have a go.  My German skills aren't the best ... but I do know some rough grammar.



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Posted Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:00 PM

I would like very much to have an English version of this.



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Posted Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:16 AM

If someone can send me the text of the book maybe I can have a go.  My German skills aren't the best ... but I do know some rough grammar.

 

I may help you with that task, if the original author agrees. I'll hold off my decision making though until I've got my copy, I should be getting one soon.

 

I've translated Hypra-Basic ( http://atariage.com/...on#entry3260051) but I'll see how many pages there are first.

 

But if you want to do it yourself, feel free.



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Posted Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:41 PM

Well,

 

the book has 228 pages...   ;-)



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Posted Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:04 PM

Since I know turbo basic I was wondering if I can use the book to learn German instead? ;)  It looks great but since I live in the French speaking part of Switzerland I'd better finish learning French first:-) Are there any popular French Atari boards, they might help?



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Posted Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:21 PM

Well,
 
the book has 228 pages...   ;-)

I'll manage that in an afternoon then!! :)

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Posted Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:31 PM

I'd love help with this.  Who knows, this might improve my German.  I have been learning Swedish and have gotten really far with it, and while the grammar in German is different, a lot of the words are not that far off.



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Posted Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:55 AM

Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, Dutch, German, English, etc. are all Germanic languages, yet English has much earlier and thus deeper Romance (i.e. Norman) influence (e.g. words such as vessel, pork or beef) than any of the other Germanic languages (sometimes it is thus referred to as a "bastard" tongue/language). German has inherited some French words mostly from the Napoleonic period, but not to the same extent - and several of them have become old-fashioned (Chaiselongue - instead of Sofa - or Fisimatenten, e.g.).



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Posted Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:11 AM

You're happy Atarians already got the book.

As it was sent in two envelopes and german post service is not the best at the moment:

I get the ABBUC magazine early this week but no book until today (but it was sent the same day)...



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Posted Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:04 AM

That is easily explained: the magazine is stamped as a letter (postage EUR 1.45), the book's envelope only bears a EUR 1.00 stamp and is labelled as "Büchersendung" (lit. "books' sending"). This is a second class service and thus may be delayed if the local postman is already fully engaged with the more important stuff he has to deliver.



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Posted Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:26 PM

Can't wait to read it finally.

Got the original dutch version here but my dutch is not available, hehe



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Posted Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:01 AM

Being an abbuc member I also received this book. Very nice! (Also liked the 320K version of tapper a lot too btw. thanks Abbuc for sharing!) 

 

I also have the Turbo Basic book written by W. Braakman (Original copy, bought back in 1987 or so when I was a SAG Member), and the Abbuc translation of this book. (A pink paperback, unfortunately very discolored duo to sunlight influence).

 

Ok but now my question.

In none of these books I understand what the use is of %0 %1 %2 and %3.

 

The examples are not clear enough to me. 

 

And I am getting a lot of errors … probably doing something wrong.

 

Any suggestions are highly appreciated by me.



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Posted Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:38 AM

Hi Marius-

 

I looked that up not very long ago.  I had thought that by using "%" in front of a number that it became an integer value, similar to how you can do in Fortran and I think Microsoft Basic.  But if you have Ron. Fetzer's English expanded Turbo Basic XL docs, it explains on page 22 under Constants and Error codes that it treats these three values (%1, %2, %3) as constants to save memory.  X=1 uses 10 bytes; while X=%1 uses  4 bytes.  Slightly helpful, but I was disappointed since I thought we had some real integer arithmetic. Hope that helps.

 

-Larry

 

Edit: Make that four values, including zero.



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Posted Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:21 AM

Ron Fetzers's Expanded Turbo-Basic XL Documentation:

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Turbo Basic Original Documentation Translated by Western New York Atari Users Group:

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I can send you the PDF if you don't have them.



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Posted Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:58 AM

Oops -- forgot the 0%! (Sorry about that.)

 

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Posted Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:21 AM

M! Just use %0 instead of 0

10 A=A+%0:

20 B=A+%2

more bytes saved=more game :-D

 

Received mine today! I don't read German either but the examples (code) are all fairly clear and you can make out more than you expect. Must have cost a lot of postage :-o


Edited by therealbountybob, Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:40 PM.


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Posted Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:13 PM

Ron Fetzers's Expanded Turbo-Basic XL Documentation:

attachicon.gifConstants2.PNG

 

Turbo Basic Original Documentation Translated by Western New York Atari Users Group:

attachicon.gifConstants.PNG

 

I can send you the PDF if you don't have them.

 

That PDF is unknown to me, so if it is free to share, I would appreciate that A LOT!

 

Thanks again my friend!



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Posted Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:39 PM

Turbo Basic fans checkout the great "Turbo BASIC Expanded Documentation" thread in the programming forum and download the English PDF. I've just posted a version of DOS2.5 that does return to Turbo BASIC from DOS option B.  :)



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Posted Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:26 PM

Together with ABBUC's new magazine I received new Turbo-Basic XL Handbuch.

 

Thank you ABBUC!

 

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I got mine in the mail today... Very nice softback book  Five stars+++++



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Posted Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:58 AM

By itself, worth this years membership dues!

 

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Posted Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:02 PM

I also received this nice surprise from Abbuc. Thanks to Abbuc for it. I am native Dutch speaking, but can read German rather well.



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Posted Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:21 PM

Received mine today, what a wonderful surprise thank you.






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