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#26 carlsson OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:35 AM

Shut up and take my money! :-)



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Posted Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:52 AM

Uuups, I'm too slow, obviously! :-o  :sleep: :-D                                      

                                                                                                                                                                                                      

 

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The Dragon/CoCo multi-cart to INTERTON ELECTRONICS VC4000 Video Computer Extension now is available!

:!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:

 

I made another extension cartridge for the Dragon/CoCo Multi-cart.

Attached File  IntertonExtension.JPG   32.58KB   4 downloads

 
Both cartridges connected:
Attached File  connected.JPG   58.98KB   3 downloads

Connected to the INTERTON Extension cartridge, the multi-cartridge is capable of playing roms on the INTERTON VC4000, which do not require extra cartridge RAM (i.e. AI-games like Chess, Backgammon, etc.). Even some non-INTERTON roms are running. ;-) 
I checked these roms:

Game               INTERTON

                   Cartridge
Grand Prix.............1         ok
Blackjack..............2         ok
Olympics...............3         ok
Combat.................4         ok
Math 1.................5         ok
Math 2.................6         ok
Air/Sea Attack.........7         ok
Treasure Hunt..........8         ok
Super Maze.............9         ok
Winter Sports.........10         ok
Horse Racing..........11         ok
Shooting Gallery......12         ok
Chess 1...............13         not running
Motocross.............14         ok
Challenge!............15         ok
Codebreaker...........16         ok
Circus................17         ok
Boxing................18         ok
Space War.............19         ok
Musical Games.........20         ok
Capture...............21         ok
Chess 2...............22         not running
Pinball...............23         ok
Soccer................24         ok
Bowling...............25         ok
Draughts..............26         not running
Golf..................27         ok
Cockpit...............28         ok
Metropolis/Hangman....29         ok
Solitaire.............30         ok
Casino................31         ok
Invaders..............32         ok
Super Invaders........33         ok
not released..........34         -- 
not released..........35         --

Backgammon............36         not running
Spider's Web..........37         not running (bad rom-file?)
Hyperspace............38         ok
Super-Space...........40         ok
Head On...............Acetronic  ok
Hobby Module..........Acetronic  not running
Laser Attack..........Acetronic  ok
Planet Defender.......Acetronic  ok
Shoot Out.............Acetronic  ok
Super Knockout........Acetronic  ok
Flappy Bird...........new        ok
Cowboy................Rowtron    ok
Monster Munchers......Rowtron    ok
Come-Frutas...........TRQ        not running
Come-Frutas...........TRQ        not running
Crazy Crab............TRQ        ok
Leapfrog..............Voltmace   ok
Munch & Crunch........Voltmace   ok


The Dragon/CoCo Multi-cartridge to INTERTON VC4000 Extension cartridge for US$12.99 plus shipping!

(Dragon/CoCo Multi-cartridge NOT included!)

-Rolo
:)

 


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Posted Wed Mar 1, 2017 1:48 PM

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That is goign to put some life into my SuperPlay 4000. Games for VC4000 have gotten up the roof in price those days!



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Posted Wed Mar 1, 2017 2:46 PM

 

Uuups, I'm too slow, obviously! :-o  :sleep: :-D                                      

                                                                                                                                                                                                      

 

:!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:

The Dragon/CoCo multi-cart to INTERTON ELECTRONICS VC4000 Video Computer Extension now is available!

:!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:

 

I made another extension cartridge for the Dragon/CoCo Multi-cart.

attachicon.gifIntertonExtension.JPG

 
Both cartridges connected:

Connected to the INTERTON Extension cartridge, the multi-cartridge is capable of playing roms on the INTERTON VC4000, which do not require extra cartridge RAM (i.e. AI-games like Chess, Backgammon, etc.). Even some non-INTERTON roms are running. ;-) 
I checked these roms:

Game               INTERTON

                   Cartridge
Grand Prix.............1         ok
<SNIP>
Munch & Crunch........Voltmace   ok


The Dragon/CoCo Multi-cartridge to INTERTON VC4000 Extension cartridge for US$12.99 plus shipping!

(Dragon/CoCo Multi-cartridge NOT included!)

-Rolo
:)

 

 

 

I just saw this and would love one. Is there a way to get one with both the INTERTON extension and Dragon/CoCo Multi-cartridge, as well as all the tested working ROMS pre-loaded? I have no way to burn anything.


Edited by BillLoguidice, Wed Mar 1, 2017 2:47 PM.


#30 Rolo OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Mar 1, 2017 3:57 PM

Hi Bill,

 

Sure! I PM you.

 

Rolo



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Posted Sat Mar 4, 2017 11:56 AM

Really love my Interton VC 4000 multicart, and absolutely can recommend to get one! :D :thumbsup:



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Posted Wed Mar 8, 2017 4:16 PM

Making a few new cartridges ...

Attached File  MCRepro01.jpg   39.83KB   1 downloads

:)



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Posted Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:17 PM

 Would anyone be able to produce a Interton VC-4000 to 1292 Advanced Programmable Video System adaptor?

 

The VC-4000 was only released in Germany, so not easy to find in the UK. I would love one of these but only have a Prinztronic VC-6000 modded with component output.

 

I also wondered if there is any chance of an adaptor for this for the Casio PV-1000 (14 Carts), Super Cassette Vision (30 Carts) or Tomy Pyuuta (AKA Tomy Tutor) (27 Carts)? I think those are the last few systems I have which have not had any type of commercial available multicarts created for them yet :)

 

And the Super A'Can of course, but I expect that would be too technical advanced for this.



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Posted Mon Apr 3, 2017 6:32 AM

Well, this all can be done, of course. But only if there is some interest/customers in the projects. Demand is so low, that it is almost impossible to sell 10 items.There is no point in developing such devices, build them, invest some money and finally pile them on my shelf. Those systems simply seem to be too exotic.

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Posted Mon Apr 3, 2017 6:35 AM

 

Uuups, I'm too slow, obviously! :-o  :sleep: :-D                                      

                                                                                                                                                                                                      

 

:!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:

The Dragon/CoCo multi-cart to INTERTON ELECTRONICS VC4000 Video Computer Extension now is available!

:!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:

 

I made another extension cartridge for the Dragon/CoCo Multi-cart.

attachicon.gifIntertonExtension.JPG

 
Both cartridges connected:

Connected to the INTERTON Extension cartridge, the multi-cartridge is capable of playing roms on the INTERTON VC4000, which do not require extra cartridge RAM (i.e. AI-games like Chess, Backgammon, etc.). Even some non-INTERTON roms are running. ;-) 
I checked these roms:

Game               INTERTON

                   Cartridge
Chess 1...............13         not running
Chess 2...............22         not running
Draughts..............26         not running
Backgammon............36         not running
Spider's Web..........37         not running (bad rom-file?)
Hobby Module..........Acetronic  not running
Come-Frutas...........TRQ        not running
Come-Frutas...........TRQ        not running



The Dragon/CoCo Multi-cartridge to INTERTON VC4000 Extension cartridge for US$12.99 plus shipping!

(Dragon/CoCo Multi-cartridge NOT included!)

-Rolo
:)

 

 

 

I am sure you have seen it, but there is a page at http://amigan.1emu.net/igg/which lists all variations between the 1292 systems and some instructions.

 

From memory Crazy Crab is a sprite hack of Spider's Web (which was also known as Monster-Man) and the Hobby Module cart was a programmer so the cart probably was a bit different.



#36 Rolo OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Apr 3, 2017 12:47 PM

Thanks.

All those games require some extra RAM and a little bit of address decoding on the cartridges, which I deliberately did not implement, to keep things simple . Those games can not run from my multi-cartridge. 

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#37 Hwlngmad OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:46 PM

Will there be another run of the CoCo 2 multi-carts?  I was just wondering.  BTW, awesome job on the multi-carts.  Keep it up!



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Posted Mon Aug 7, 2017 2:23 PM

Hey , I did not see your comment. Sorry!

 

I'm always having parts for some Multi-Carts lying around. Just have to assemble them. As long as there is some demand, I'll keep on making them, I think.

Concerning the Extension Cartridges for the various systems. Well, I still have some in stock, except the INTERTON type. I might make a fourth type in autumn. Not sure which system I should cover. Probably something old and exotic, which is not served yet. So, not the 2600!  ;)

My procedure is:

 

while (demand){

    make 10 items;

    sell 10 items;

    sleep( :sleep: );

    }

 

 

-Rolo

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Posted Tue Aug 8, 2017 2:18 AM

The number of (partly) cartridge based systems that are not entirely hen's teeth but still lacking a multi/flash/whatever cartridge solution is thinning out. I suppose it should have a library of at least 5-10 (already dumped) games to be worthwhile. I was about to mention Philips/Schneider/Radiola VG-5000 until I realized it is tape based...

 

There's also the Casio PV-1000 but I think it is hen's toothy. As previously mentioned, there is the Epoch/Yeno Super Cassette Vision that is uncommon but not entirely unheard of. I don't know if the Tomy Tutor has a multicart yet, perhaps that is a market niche to consider. Same about Bally Astrocade unless it already is covered. The APF MP-1000 might still be "available"? Some of the French Thomson MO-5/MO-6/TO-7/whatever may take cartridges in some form, but I don't know if those are mostly BASIC language and peripheral interfaces.

 

Good luck in your investigation, and perhaps you'll want to set up a pre-poll somewhere which format(s) of the ones you have deemed doable would have buyers. Of course there may be systems with hard to get multicarts where you could fill in the gap as well.

 

While this thread is not entirely up to date, it might serve as a starting point to see which projects have existed:

http://atariage.com/...st-all-systems/


Edited by carlsson, Tue Aug 8, 2017 2:30 AM.


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Posted Tue Aug 8, 2017 4:26 AM

The Bally Astrocade already has devices out for it.

 

The Tomy Tutor\Pyuuta is probably the best bet as it had both a Japanese and USA release ands sold in both computer and console form and is probably the most owned niche console. All games have now been dumped for it. I heard rumours someone was making a flash cart for this, was asked not to say anything at the time, but it was so long back I am guessing that is now abandonware.

 

The Epoch/Yeno Super Cassette Vision multicart would also be welcome. A very underated system with some good games on it, approx 30 carts and a couple of quite rare (and expensive) ones. This was more popular in Japan, but also saw a small release in France. However a few carts took AA batteries and had the ability to save games, so I am not sure if those would work and one cart was a basic programmer with some games on it.

 

A Casio PV-1000 multicart would also be welcome, but has less games released. I am still unsure if Casio PV-2000 dumped games would also work on a PV-1000 (or with slight modification), but if so that would also increase the library.

 

The other Casio Cart system - The Casio Loopy - Lets forget this as all but one of the games are easy to come by and all were in Japanese only making them hard to use for non japanese.

 

I found no real evidence a multicart for the APF MP-1000 ever existed after searching on the yahoo group, but I do not own one of these so have no interest in it at the moment. Perhaps one was made as a homebrew project, but no public release?

 

I'd say avoid the Thomson MO-5/MO-6/TO-7 machines for a cart device. The majority of TO-7 and MO-5 games were released on Tape. The device I have seen for the MO-5 was only made as homebrew with no public release and only a handful of games were converted to SD format to work with it. You also had to write or load a small basic program to access the device. While better than nothing it did not look ideal at all. Not much was released for the MO-6 at all but still a facinating system as it was also released in Italy. The best machine is the TO-8 with games released on disk, meaning you can replace the floppy drive with a Gotek to get access to games without messing about with floppies, so no need for anything for that. The other French system which had a handful of games released on cart was the Exelvision EXL 100. The best resource for the French systems is http://dcmoto.free.f...html/index.htmland under Support for MEMO5 and MEMO7 to see cart based images. There is also a lot of games on the French systems which are surpisingly in the French Language requiring knowing written French to be able to play.

 

The VG-5000 does not have any device, but was tape based games only. Other systems which do not have a device but were tape based only include The Matra Alice, Camputers Lynx, EACA Colour Genie, Hector HR (and variants), Sanyo PHC 25, Sharp MZ700 and VTech Laser 200 and 300. While the Oric has had a disk based SD device released for it, with the majority of games being on tape, never being released of converted to disk and no easy way of converting the games to disk it is almost a useless device so I would also add that to the list of tape based machines with no device. The other issue with some of these machines is that the games loaded in parts using the pause feature of the REM(ote) input on the tape decks to pause the tape and restart it to load the next part. Quite a few games on the French systems did this where they would load a instructions page before continuing to load the main game.

 

Another computer which only had a few cart games released was the pre-MSX Spectravideo SV-318 and SV-328, with the majority of games released on tape, and has no cart based system at all.

 

The big one which might be impossible for a cart of this type and need something more custom like a everdrive is the Funtech Super A'Can with games being rarer than the system its one I have had difficulty in finding games at any price. And of course the Atari Jaguar which would need a similarly complex cart, and the Atari 7800 which seems to have become abandonware yet again after the carts creator has gone AWOL.

 

Whatever you decide, it would be most welcome.



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Posted Tue Aug 8, 2017 4:33 AM

I suppose the target system should have cart sizes that match the existing Dragon/CoCo mothercart (now that's possibly a new term!) since Rolo is building a pin adapter, possibly with added logic.

 

I know you asked for other 1292 compatible adapter. I don't know if every system in that family has its own cartridge pinout or if it is VC-4000 vs rest of the family once you pull the board from the plastic? Since we're digging deep into the well of candidate systems, perhaps this variant of the VC-4000 adapter also is worth considering if there is more than one potential buyer.



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Posted Tue Aug 8, 2017 4:46 AM

The list of 1292 families is at: https://en.wikipedia...le_Video_Systemin Compatibility family which relates to cart slot used. The VC-4000 was mainly just released in Germany. Some may dispute it was released in other parts of Europe (perhaps as a German import) but I have only ever seen them selling from germany on EBay, with most German sellers only shipping to Germany which makes it more difficult to aquire a decend condition working unit and the usual over-priced sellers seilling worldwide that I want to avoid.

 

The 1292 Advanced Programmable Video System was the most popular cart type. At least it was in the UK with the common systems being Radofin, Prinztronic and Acetronic. This would probably be the best type to make.

 

Actually just noticed some idiot has changed that table and added Database Videomaster (Voltmace) to the 1292 Advanced Programmable Video System which is wrong. The Databse was a machine in its own family and a different sized cart and pin layout.



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Posted Tue Aug 8, 2017 1:16 PM

Wow! Thanks guys! Awesome!

You really did put a lot of effort into investigation!

Maybe I really should serve the "1292" next. It would require some geometrical adjustments only and could be helpful. It is nothing I personally need, but why not. But I really should have a system to test with. I only have an INTERTON.

And, I really should go on, finally making the VECTREX joystick kits ready.

:)



#44 RayXambeR OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:00 AM

Very great project! Congratulations!

 

I am interested in:

- coco cartridge

- all adaptors ! (so, for the momen if read well: Odyssey2, Vectrex and Interton VC-4000?)

 

Do I need to pay you now or have I to wait for a next batch?



#45 Rolo OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:40 PM

I made a few new Multi-Carts. Current stock:

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Posted Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:44 PM

Hi RayXambeR,

 

Everything is in stock, except Interton-adapters (look at waiting list: http://atariage.com/...r/#entry3801138 ).

I send you a PM.

 

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Posted Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:01 PM

project update:

 

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Posted Fri Sep 8, 2017 4:42 AM

Hi !

 

Is it still possible to buy one cart for my Dragon ?

 

Thanks a lot !


Edited by weirdocollector, Fri Sep 8, 2017 4:42 AM.


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Posted Sat Sep 9, 2017 7:29 AM

Hi weirdocollector!,

 

Yes it is. :thumbsup: 

Currently 2 cartridges left. The cased one and and one uncased cartridge.

I send you a PM.

 

-Rolo

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Posted Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:19 PM

This is awesome keep up the great work.
Someday I will pick up my cc2 from my parents. I know zero jpysticks work tho.
Then I will buy a cased one. But need it programmed if possible as I dont own a burner.




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