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#1 Sprybug ONLINE  

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Posted Sun Nov 8, 2015 9:06 PM

So, earlier this year I decided to embark on my new game called Robot Zed.

 

The first level is about 2/5 of the way finished.

Once I finish the introductory/tutorial level, I'll post it here as the demo to the game for you guys to try.

 

The game is like a mix of Mega Man and Kirby with some new game mechanics that you're starting to see with indie developers.  It uses an upgraded version of my Princess Rescue Engine.  This upgraded version now includes several scroll/screen modes and longer levels with an auto scroll to the next new section.  Plus it'll have my own original music! :D

 

Since I want this first message to contain the files once they are ready, I'll post another message with a few things to show.



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Posted Sun Nov 8, 2015 9:10 PM

So here's a few screenshots:

 

 

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I've been musically inspired lately, so I'm also going to include my freshly finished song that I will think would be perfectly suited for "SkyLand".

Attached File  Music_Work_2.bas.bin   8KB   268 downloads

 

8K????  Yeah.  The data for the music is nearly 4K ALONE.  This is going to be at least a 64K game like Zippy.  Maybe larger.


Edited by Sprybug, Sun Nov 8, 2015 9:12 PM.


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Posted Sun Nov 8, 2015 9:33 PM

I had a chance to see this at PRGE, and I must say, it's going to kick ass when it's done!

I look forward to watching your progress. :)

..Al

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Posted Sun Nov 8, 2015 9:36 PM

It's going to be more than 2k? Not interested! :D



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Posted Mon Nov 9, 2015 11:35 AM

I love the music.

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Posted Mon Nov 9, 2015 10:14 PM

Looks and sounds great !



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Posted Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:07 PM

Looks good! I can't wait to play it.


Edited by neotokeo2001, Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:07 PM.


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Posted Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:17 PM

Rocking stuff once again!!

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Posted Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:25 AM

Best Atari music award goes to...



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Posted Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:25 PM

Regarding the best Atari music, would you consider options?
I would like options to choose: 1. No music, just sound effects. 2. Drop lead channel. 3. Drop bass channel. 4. All music, no sound effects.

If that goes against your vision, I understand.
Sometime when I'm playing I wonder what it would sound like if the lead keeps playing and the bass cuts in and out.

P.S. Great tune. Better than I've done with yours having percussion and fade outs. I don't think I would have been able to compress 8000 bytes of data into 800 bytes if I were doing percussion and fades. My Mappy tune has ragtime repetition but it is a routine to do the repeating, the notes that are too short aren't affected. Actually that was a brilliant accident. I was attempting to fade out long notes and instead it repeated them!



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Posted Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:54 AM

Regarding the best Atari music, would you consider options?
I would like options to choose: 1. No music, just sound effects. 2. Drop lead channel. 3. Drop bass channel. 4. All music, no sound effects.

If that goes against your vision, I understand.
Sometime when I'm playing I wonder what it would sound like if the lead keeps playing and the bass cuts in and out.

P.S. Great tune. Better than I've done with yours having percussion and fade outs. I don't think I would have been able to compress 8000 bytes of data into 800 bytes if I were doing percussion and fades. My Mappy tine has ragtime repetition but it is a routine to do the repeating, the notes that are too short aren't affected. Actually that was a brilliant accident. I was attempting to fade out long notes and instead it repeated them!

I was going to ask how you pulled off the "vibrato" sound in mappy. I agree, it was quite brilliant.



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Posted Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:59 AM

I had a chance to see this at PRGE, and I must say, it's going to kick ass when it's done!

I look forward to watching your progress. :)

..Al

Thanks Albert.  I just got those trampolines in the game that I was talking about working tonight.  It's fun just to watch him bounce up and down on them.  I also got the life bar working correctly, although for some reason it goes black for no reason at all (looked through all my code and in the Stella debugger the ram location for the bar color gets set to 0 for no reason).  However in my renderscreen routine I set that color through every screendraw, so if it goes black it'll only go black for 1 frame before being reset.  Not sure why it's doing it though.  I also figured out all the power-ups.  Ground Shot, Shield, Targeting Shot, Fuel for Foot Rockets for Flying, Platform (Playfield) Block Builder Power, Invisibility (for stealth), and the last 2 I might change but for now it's fire shot and ice shot.  The Ice shot is to turn water into solid ice so you can walk on it and the fire shot is to melt certain blocks away.

There's one other issue, and this happened with Zippy too.  When I use a custom font (which is how I get the Zed head in the score as with the power icon), sometimes a few stray pixels show up next to the last digit depending on the sequence of numbers that are in there.  In Zippy it happened when one of the ring icons in the rotation sequence showed up (which is why those few pixels flicker), where as here in Zed it's always there and it really makes that second number hard to read.  This isn't anything in my code, so I think it's some bug in Batari.



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Posted Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:04 AM

Regarding the best Atari music, would you consider options?
I would like options to choose: 1. No music, just sound effects. 2. Drop lead channel. 3. Drop bass channel. 4. All music, no sound effects.

If that goes against your vision, I understand.
Sometime when I'm playing I wonder what it would sound like if the lead keeps playing and the bass cuts in and out.

P.S. Great tune. Better than I've done with yours having percussion and fade outs. I don't think I would have been able to compress 8000 bytes of data into 800 bytes if I were doing percussion and fades. My Mappy tine has ragtime repetition but it is a routine to do the repeating, the notes that are too short aren't affected. Actually that was a brilliant accident. I was attempting to fade out long notes and instead it repeated them!

I actually like this idea.  A menu option to have music on or off, the sound effects on or off, and if they are on, which channel they occupy.  This would use 3 bits of RAM to store the options throughout game play, and once again I've pretty much reserved all my RAM usage and am down to my last two bits.  However, never say never.  My memory configurations can change throughout the development.



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Posted Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:55 AM

You could use the console switches, Difficulty A/B, B&W, or reconfigure joystick port 2 to act as 4 bits of RAM. (Just make sure to mention leave joystick port 2 empty of controllers and AtariVox+.)
I still don't know how Byte Knight and I did most of the important features of D.K. and we still have 2 RAM locations unused.

P.S. We do use the DPC+ Kernel special stack storage to preserve the 3 parts of the score in order to have the countdown bonus timer, then pull the score back out of the stack when the level is finished, but that is only using 3 locations out of the 256 available.


Edited by iesposta, Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:02 AM.


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Posted Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:26 PM

You could use the console switches, Difficulty A/B, B&W, or reconfigure joystick port 2 to act as 4 bits of RAM. (Just make sure to mention leave joystick port 2 empty of controllers and AtariVox+.)
I still don't know how Byte Knight and I did most of the important features of D.K. and we still have 2 RAM locations unused.

P.S. We do use the DPC+ Kernel special stack storage to preserve the 3 parts of the score in order to have the countdown bonus timer, then pull the score back out of the stack when the level is finished, but that is only using 3 locations out of the 256 available.

Console switches.  That's a great idea. I didn't even think of that.  One could be for music on/off, one could be for sound on/off, and the B&W switch can be for audio channel.  I'd have to find out what the most common console switch settings are for the average user and make that the default. (Music On, Sound On, Sound on channel 0)  I have no uses for the console switches, unlike Princess Rescue that added 2 more lives with one of the difficulty switches.  One of these days I'm going to make a game that uses the AtariVox....maybe I should for this one?  I mean, I was planning on having a password system, but this game would be good for it.  Instead of a password system, it could use saves and then I can do robot voices with it too.  Perfect for this kind of game.  Thanks for the suggestion!



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Posted Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:05 PM

Of course the most common are Color, B, B.

The "Color" on the 7800 is pause and it is momentary so it always bounces back to "Color".

Although between both Difficulty Switches you have 4 possible combinations. BB, BA, AB, & AA.

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Posted Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:24 PM

Of course the most common are Color, B, B.

The "Color" on the 7800 is pause and it is momentary so it always bounces back to "Color".

Although between both Difficulty Switches you have 4 possible combinations. BB, BA, AB, & AA.

True that like a 2-bit value, but I don't want to over-complicate something as simple as console switch toggle settings for the average user.  Let's say I assign the color switch to be the one that controls which channel the sound effects play on.  This would probably be the most ideal of the three settings because if this is played on a 7800 and the switch is only momentary, I'd rather have that happen on the channel selection rather than the strict on/off for the music and sound effects.  So, if you don't get to decide one of the three because of the system you're playing it on, I'd rather have it be for the channel selection.



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Posted Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:30 PM

Console switches.  That's a great idea. I didn't even think of that.  One could be for music on/off, one could be for sound on/off, and the B&W switch can be for audio channel.  I'd have to find out what the most common console switch settings are for the average user and make that the default. (Music On, Sound On, Sound on channel 0)  I have no uses for the console switches, unlike Princess Rescue that added 2 more lives with one of the difficulty switches.  One of these days I'm going to make a game that uses the AtariVox....maybe I should for this one?  I mean, I was planning on having a password system, but this game would be good for it.  Instead of a password system, it could use saves and then I can do robot voices with it too.  Perfect for this kind of game.  Thanks for the suggestion!

Amazing! Better yet if you could get the Vox to talk or moan as supplementary sound effects. I'm always up for another game to support the 'Vox...



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Posted Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:19 AM

How about also using a password system for those of us who don't have an AtariVox?



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Posted Tue Dec 1, 2015 8:24 PM

How about also using a password system for those of us who don't have an AtariVox?

I will have at least that.  If I find it too much of a hassle to include the AtariVox, or I don't have enough space to do both, etc, then I will at least have a password system.  At best I will have both.



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Posted Tue Dec 1, 2015 8:25 PM

Rocking stuff once again!!

Thanks, BTW, WTF is your icon from?  I couldn't stop laughing.



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Posted Tue Dec 1, 2015 9:25 PM

Geeezzzz.... Zippy's not even on my doorstep yet and your showing off your next game!!
Your awesome!!!!!

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Posted Wed Dec 2, 2015 2:33 AM

Thanks, BTW, WTF is your icon from?  I couldn't stop laughing.

That's 1926 Reddy Killowatt, spokesman teaching kids about electricity generation for 7 decades, unfortunately living 15 miles from Three Mile Island I associate it with teaching us about safe, clean nuclear electric plants, so that sombitch nearly did knife me dead in  March 28, 1979. 



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Posted Wed Dec 2, 2015 2:40 AM

That's 1926 Reddy Killowatt, spokesman teaching kids about electricity generation for 7 decades, unfortunately living 15 miles from Three Mile Island I associate it with teaching us about safe, clean nuclear electric plants, so that sombitch nearly did knife me dead on March 28, 1979 when the reactor had a meltdown. 



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Posted Wed Dec 2, 2015 5:10 AM

Thanks, BTW, WTF is your icon from?  I couldn't stop laughing.

Reddy Killowatt :) This guy made a lasting impression on me ever since seeing him in a school PSA a long ass time ago. I think Mr. Yuck is his bastard son but I could be mistaken..

The following avatar I have used was also a favorite ;)

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