+Nathan Strum Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) As a sidenote: is autofire missing from the released version? I just got hooked again and found my poor fingertips longing for it soon after We felt autofire made the game too easy - it removed any need to think about your shots/bombs, which is a key part of Scramble's gameplay. As a compromise, we changed it to "burst mode", which autofires a string of shots, but requires you to re-press the button for each burst. Of course manual fire is still there for people who want to play the game properly. Edited August 20, 2017 by Nathan Strum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Can't get it to work here, no combination of switch positions does the trick. Whatever ROM version burned onto the cart I purchased from the AA store works when played on hardware. One minor gripe is the "auto-fire" affects the bombs as well, resulting in double shots every time I tap the button. I made a modified SMS schematic that detects as Genesis controller on the Atari 2600. Toggle switch selects SMS+ and 7800 modes: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/241814-universal-joystick-schematic-for-2600-7800-sms-untested/?p=3602132 This also works great if you want turbo on the bullets but not the bombs: We felt autofire made the game too easy - it removed any need to think about your shots/bombs, which is a key part of Scramble's gameplay. As a compromise, we changed it to "burst mode", which autofires a string of shots, but requires you to re-press the button for each burst. Of course manual fire is still there for people who want to play the game properly. I generally just use standard mode since "burst" mode trips me up too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dualcam Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) Okay! Got it working. VisionDapter set to Autosense with a 7800 controller. Used Joy-to-Key to to map joystick to keyboard, then mapped Stella 5.01 to keyboard with booster/trigger both set to 4. Both Stay Frosty 2 and Scramble2600 work in 2-button mode. Edit: Can't seem to even get movement doing this with the 2600daptor set to 7800. Thanks for your help! Vision-daptor supports Genesis 3 & 6 button and 7800 Pro-line. Hold the Genesis Start button for the auto detect. It's been a long time since I looked at the Genesis and 2600-daptor, so I'll have to go back and look at that again. Currently out eclipse chasing, so will be a couple days. Tom http://2600-daptor.com/ Edited August 21, 2017 by dualcam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swami Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Can't get it to work here, no combination of switch positions does the trick. If you are referring to Scramble2600, the fastest you can fire is 3 shots/2bombs per button press in burst mode. Probably need an auto-fire module for continuous firing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHairy Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 We felt autofire made the game too easy - it removed any need to think about your shots/bombs, which is a key part of Scramble's gameplay. As a compromise, we changed it to "burst mode", which autofires a string of shots, but requires you to re-press the button for each burst. Of course manual fire is still there for people who want to play the game properly. Makes sense I guess I'll have to add an autofire mode to 6502.ts in order to keep myself from smashing in my digits and / or my keyboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+johnnywc Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Think I found your easter egg, John. You're on top of the world. Awesome! You must have had a blast finding it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stephena Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 @johnnywc, I'd like to get the ROMs added to the properties database. So can you provide the following info for each released ROM: Cartridge_Manufacturer Cartridge_ModelNo Cartridge_Name Cartridge_Note Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+johnnywc Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) @johnnywc, I'd like to get the ROMs added to the properties database. So can you provide the following info for each released ROM: Cartridge_Manufacturer Cartridge_ModelNo Cartridge_Name Cartridge_Note Sure! NTSC: Cartridge_Manufacturer: Champ Games Cartridge_ModelNo: CG-03 Cartridge_Name: Scramble (NTSC) Cartridge_Note: Compatible with Genesis controller PAL60: Cartridge_Manufacturer: Champ Games Cartridge_ModelNo: CG-03 Cartridge_Name: Scramble (PAL60) Cartridge_Note: Compatible with Genesis controller Thanks, John Edited August 23, 2017 by johnnywc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I used SW-01 for Medieval Mayhem, perhaps CG-01 for Lady Bug, CG-02 for Conquest of Mars, CG-03 for Scramble, and CG-04 for your forthcoming project. I see some Notes mentioning support for the Genesis controller, such as Princess Rescue, which would make sense for Scramble. On that note, looks like I need to submit some updates as well - I don't see Stay Frosty 2 or Space Rocks, and I don't believe Stay Frosty was stereo (entry was probably was cloned from Medieval Mayhem). Will work that up tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+johnnywc Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 I used SW-01 for Medieval Mayhem, perhaps CG-01 for Lady Bug, CG-02 for Conquest of Mars, CG-03 for Scramble, and CG-04 for your forthcoming project. I see some Notes mentioning support for the Genesis controller, such as Princess Rescue, which would make sense for Scramble. On that note, looks like I need to submit some updates as well - I don't see Stay Frosty 2 or Space Rocks, and I don't believe Stay Frosty was stereo (entry was probably was cloned from Medieval Mayhem). Will work that up tonight. Thanks for the feedback Darrell! Stephen - I have updated the post above with Darrell's suggestion. Could you update the Model number for Lady Bug and Conquest of Mars (both NTSC and PAL versions) to be CG-01 and CG-02, respectively? Actually, should the model # be different for NTSC and PAL versions? (ie. CG-03-N for NTSC and CG-03-P for PAl60, for example?) Thanks, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stephena Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 OK, this is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arenafoot Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 @johnnywc, I'd like to get the ROMs added to the properties database. So can you provide the following info for each released ROM: Cartridge_Manufacturer Cartridge_ModelNo Cartridge_Name Cartridge_Note Properties database??? within Stella? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Properties database??? within Stella? Yep, I linked to it in my prior reply. Stella uses the info to configure controllers, TV-Type when it can't autodetect (like for PAL60), if the sound is stereo, etc. It's indexed off the MD5 value for the BIN file, which you can view in the Game Properties page: I still need to work up the rest of mine, got a bit side tracked getting ready for Hurricane Harvey. Looks like it'll hit near my sister down in Corpus Christi, but we're still expecting to see a lot of rain and flooding here in Houston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arenafoot Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Yep, I linked to it in my prior reply. Stella uses the info to configure controllers, TV-Type when it can't autodetect (like for PAL60), if the sound is stereo, etc. It's indexed off the MD5 value for the BIN file, which you can view in the Game Properties page: Screen Shot 2017-08-25 at 8.44.06 AM.png I still need to work up the rest of mine, got a bit side tracked getting ready for Hurricane Harvey. Looks like it'll hit near my sister down in Corpus Christi, but we're still expecting to see a lot of rain and flooding here in Houston. Cool! I never realized Stella did that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Awesome! You must have had a blast finding it! You can say that again. I still can't believe I'm playing a VCS game. Played Super Cobra afterwards: a day and night difference. Looking forward to your next release. Keep up the good work! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Defender Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Hello, I thought I would share my review of this game here with you guys. Enjoy! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dphirschler Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Nice review. Playing the rom now. Looks like this will be the next homebrew game I buy for my Atari! Darryl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mewithoutYou52 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) Hi guys, I programmed the NES version of this that was referenced a few pages back by a few people and I just wanted to pop in here and comment on a few things: I am a huge arcade enthusiast, having already ported Frogger over to the NES, and Scramble was a game that I've had in the back of my head for years as a game that I had wanted to port over to the NES (which is my favorite game system). The one thing that held me back was in the arcade version of Scramble, a lot of the terrain is curved, and I am not a super talented coder, so I never knew how to tackle this issue. I have been at PRGE for the past three years, and when I arrived this past year and saw Scramble for the 2600 I was blown away by how good it was! It got my mind working into overdrive and it inspired me to take what he did and bring it over to the system I love and know how to code for. I in no way meant to take away from any of the work done on the 2600 version, or give any impression that I stole any of his work. I was merely super inspired by how amazing it was and wanted to use his "blocky" terrain idea in my version. I actually watched videos of this port on Youtube and paused it at every new screen to try to keep track of the undulation and use it in my version. I apologize if this comes off as stealing, but it's more a lack of creativity on my part. The 2600 version that was created by John really is a masterpiece! On NES it's a lot easier to keep track of collision in a 8x8 tile fashion, and it was basically a eureka moment seeing John's version that I could take it over to the NES. I started work on my version the day I got home from Portland and had it done by the first of the year. It was the fastest I had ever worked on a game, but it all came together very quickly having seen that it could be done. So seriously, thank you John for bringing your version to light, and I'm sorry if you have any ill will toward me. I have nothing but respect for you and what you do, and I want to thank you for making one of my dreams come true by showing me how this game could be handled on older systems. Edited October 11, 2017 by mewithoutYou52 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorGamer Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hi guys, I programmed the NES version of this Unaware. Please provide additional info on how I can get myself a copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mewithoutYou52 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Unaware. Please provide additional info on how I can get myself a copy. I feel a little silly linking my game in a thread that is for John's version, but it can be found in my store here: http://www.khangames.com/store/home/13-scramble-complete-in-box.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I feel a little silly linking my game in a thread that is for John's version, but it can be found in my store here: http://www.khangames.com/store/home/13-scramble-complete-in-box.html Is there a video of your game in action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorGamer Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I feel a little silly linking my game in a thread that is for John's version, but it can be found in my store here: http://www.khangames.com/store/home/13-scramble-complete-in-box.html Thanks - I'm going to order this! Is there a video of your game in action? I found this. Unfortunately the guy is blabbing throughout over top the game sound effects 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mewithoutYou52 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) Is there a video of your game in action? There's a pretty thorough review right here: edit: You beat me to it. Edited October 11, 2017 by mewithoutYou52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 That's very cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Both are awesome. The NES port has achievements and high scores stored on cart flash ROM. Atari port has multiple difficulty levels and an optional starfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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