Jinks Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I find myself when watching old movies and talking about video games or almost anything constantly doing an atari reference like yeah at that time atari was doing this or that idea was made by atari. My wife hates this stuff. I sound like my american friend I grew up with that apparently had ten thousand uncles who worked for nasa the cia invented the combustion engine and pretty much anything you were talking about his uncle did and knew everything about. Now he starts off his sentences "the problem with that is" to anything I say. Just wondering if anyone else here claims that atari invented everything to do with video games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Atari "invented" the home console. Nintendo "perfected" it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 Atari "invented" the home console. Nintendo "perfected" it! Blowing on carts to get to work is not perfection or the flickerfest. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Blowing on carts to get to work is not perfection or the flickerfest. Neither is Atari Pacman or ET... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Nor NES Back to the Future or Friday the 13th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 There are crap games on every system. And every system has some critical flaw... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I find myself when watching old movies and talking about video games or almost anything constantly doing an atari reference like yeah at that time atari was doing this or that idea was made by atari. Are you drunk? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78001987 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Atari "invented" the home console. Nintendo "perfected" it! which explains why they aren't even a significant player in the video game market any more. No, Nintendo didn't perfect anything. They capitalized on poor business decisions and ugly business mergers by Atari, and victimized the 3rd party developers with extortion tactics. And they made rather unremarkable and unreliable hardware, and were eventually knocked off their throne by Sony, and MS. Now they are relegated to the toddler games market, making Pokemon and stuffed animal games for kindergarteners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddlepaddle Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 which explains why they aren't even a significant player in the video game market any more. No, Nintendo didn't perfect anything. They capitalized on poor business decisions and ugly business mergers by Atari, and victimized the 3rd party developers with extortion tactics. And they made rather unremarkable and unreliable hardware, and were eventually knocked off their throne by Sony, and MS. Now they are relegated to the toddler games market, making Pokemon and stuffed animal games for kindergarteners. Not sure I agree: Other than the zero force connector, I find Nintendo hardware excellent, and better quality than most everything else comtemporily available. Microsoft BOUGHT the market, using money from their strong-arm achieved monopoly over PC software... The original Xbox is basically a derivitive of IBM's design, which itself was born of off-the-shelf components and easily used as a base. Most of the actual creative work in the MS ecosystem comes from outside Microsoft, in my opinion. And Sony got their original start for the PS using Nintendo designs, I believe, originally intended as an innovative addition to the Super Famicom. Nintendo has been genuinly innovative, although ultimately not successful today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 And they made rather unremarkable and unreliable hardware, and were eventually knocked off their throne by Sony, and MS. Now they are relegated to the toddler games market, making Pokemon and stuffed animal games for kindergarteners. "Toddler Games?" Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Bayonetta, hardly what I would consider for kindergardners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxpro Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Not sure I agree: Other than the zero force connector, I find Nintendo hardware excellent, and better quality than most everything else comtemporily available. Microsoft BOUGHT the market, using money from their strong-arm achieved monopoly over PC software... The original Xbox is basically a derivitive of IBM's design, which itself was born of off-the-shelf components and easily used as a base. Most of the actual creative work in the MS ecosystem comes from outside Microsoft, in my opinion. And Sony got their original start for the PS using Nintendo designs, I believe, originally intended as an innovative addition to the Super Famicom. Nintendo has been genuinly innovative, although ultimately not successful today. Exactly what did they [Ninjaendo] innovate on? The game pad simply for cost reductions? The Wii's gimmick controller? Because they weren't the first to stuff cartridges with add-on chips and RAM. They didn't invent the platform game. They weren't the first console to use an analog controller or pause buttons. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything they actually innovated on other than their monopolistic business practices applied to the video game industry. Edited November 22, 2015 by Lynxpro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78001987 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 "Toddler Games?" Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Bayonetta, hardly what I would consider for kindergardners. really? Mario Kart isn't a corny cartoon game for little kids? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 really? Mario Kart isn't a corny cartoon game for little kids? Real big kids play Atari Karts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 Ok this was supposed to be about atari stuff. Thanks for screwing it up with the NES VS atari bs. And yeah I like to be drunk. Going to pour a drink now.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddlepaddle Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Well, Atari was very innovative, and the aftermarket around it was as well. My comment was mostly meant to say that inventions are not so easy to nail down. The creation and development of ideas are very different things, and credit given (or taken) is often technically incorrect. It takes both, and doing either well deserves respect and admiration. I also respect success and my feeling is Nintendo fought hard for theirs, and Atari pissed theirs away. I do think Nintendo hardware is generally very well designed and built, and I wanted to defend their contributions. That includes savvy marketing, by the way, an area where Atari demonstrated significant lapses. Nintendo built a huge market that thrived for a long, long time. I'm sure a long list of both Atari and Nintendo innovations can be listed, but that wasn't my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Ok this was supposed to be about atari stuff. Thanks for screwing it up with the NES VS atari bs. And yeah I like to be drunk. Going to pour a drink now.. Drunk Mario Kart is awesome! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxpro Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Drunk Mario Kart is awesome! Not as cool as Drunk Lords! And yes, I'm copyrighting that sh*t. -Copyright 2013 by Lynxpro, biotches! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLic0ne t0aD Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Crunk Lawdz © ® ™ :pirate: Edited November 23, 2015 by SiLic0ne t0aD85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Toddler games? I thought trying to get Barney to die in that Genesis verison but won't is such a game- if you really want to call that a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asis217 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Ok. This association with atari is normal for someone who knows a great deal about it. It is a good way to connect and share yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Ok. This association with atari is normal for someone who knows a great deal about it. It is a good way to connect and share yourself. Ok but my problem is people think I am a nerd and don't get it and really wantvme to shut up about it. Maybe thats why I spend lots of time here..I know maybe 20 pecent of it if I am lucky. Maybe I need to perfect the mindlink? Atari just needed more power. How about a pair of 5 dollar shades hooked up to 220v? I will be able to see the future! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxpro Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Ok but my problem is people think I am a nerd and don't get it and really wantvme to shut up about it. Maybe thats why I spend lots of time here..I know maybe 20 pecent of it if I am lucky. Maybe I need to perfect the mindlink? Atari just needed more power. How about a pair of 5 dollar shades hooked up to 220v? I will be able to see the future! Sonic Shades? Sweet. I can't get enough Atari intersecting with Doctor Who. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 Sonic Shades? Sweet. I can't get enough Atari intersecting with Doctor Who. You need to play 2600 berzerk with dr who voice and graphics. It is rad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Ok but my problem is people think I am a nerd and don't get it and really wantvme to shut up about it. You should listen to your friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 You should listen to your friends. Ok why are you here if you are not into atari then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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