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#1301 Lost Dragon OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Feb 9, 2019 11:46 AM

Apologies for hijacking thread just for a moment..


@Leech:I have never played Falcon Steel Talons (only the Genesis and Lynx versions..sloth like frame rate on both ruined the experience for myself).

Did the Falcon version feature the realistic mode controls?

Over to 1 of the coin op team:

Real" heli-mode is just what the name implies. It models the aircraft
dynamics of a Blackhawk 67 much more accurately. When you "nose down"
the chopper, it does just that. After nosing down to an appropriate
angle, RETURN THE STICK TO CENTER TO MAINTAIN THAT ANGLE, and build up
speed appropriately. There is no mechanism in a chopper to figure
out that you just wnat to hold the stick forward to maintain an angle
of attack. The pitch of the rotors stays fixed and the chopper will
continue to roll down. By returning the stick to center, you neutralize
the blades and the chopper will maintain the angle as stated above. If
you want to level out, you must pull BACK on the stick to correct your
attitude. Note, in many modern day choppers, including the Blackhawk,
the throttle and collective are co-ordinated. This is what we are
simulating here.

Why fly in real mode? Well, for one thing we increase the flight ceiling
on many of the levels. This is a significant advantage in and of itself,
especially in head-to-head competition. Secondly, it is possible to
attain higher speeds this way. Also, in head-to-head, it is MUCH EASIER
to hold a steady lock which is absolutely necessary when using the FARR
rockets. Additionally it is WAY COOL to do rolls and loops (which the
Blackhawk is really capable of!) if you can get enough altitude to pull
off the maneuvre. In short, it is WELL worth it.



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Posted Sat Feb 9, 2019 2:53 PM

That's pretty awesome!  I actually haven't tried it on the Falcon myself, I should hook mine up and give it a try.  Last time I did anything on my Falcon was testing out OIDs with Jagpad support, which is way fun.  My TT030 is the one that is connected now.

 

Yeah, sorry for derailing the thread, just wondered about conversions from the Falcon version to Jag.  Guess the hard part would be if it used Videl / DSP stuff extensively.  Or the 68030. 

 

Ha, has anyone tried going the opposite way, porting Jag games to the ST?  These should probably be threads on their own...



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Posted Sat Feb 9, 2019 6:58 PM

This one looks really nice. 

 

And this one looks great too:https://www.youtube....h?v=d3tXsTYgdhQ

 

Love this game.....is it two players?

 

Would love to see this and RODLAND on the Jaguar!


Edited by Machine, Sat Feb 9, 2019 7:05 PM.


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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:23 AM

Starting playing with OpenShot Video Editor, thought this would make a good first subject ;)

 



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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:46 AM

Since the Jaguar has not got it yet: Care for a game of Tennis? This looks worth playing/porting, a game by Blue Byte :-).


Edited by agradeneu, Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:01 AM.


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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:48 AM

 

Love this game.....is it two players?

 

Would love to see this and RODLAND on the Jaguar!

Rodland looks excellent, like Parasol Stars.



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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:17 AM

Great to see someone uploading Pang. That is one of my most loved games and one I consider to be a bit of a lost classic. The game play was so simple, and with all the items dropping down it always reminded me of a variant on Arkanoid. The background screens of different countries reminded me of Bombjack too..

 

Pang really was a great game and one I still play on the MAME type emulator built into the modded Xbox I bought many years ago that runs Coinops. I recently bought one of those modded Xbox machines for someone else and it said it contained Atari Jaguar games as well as all the usual 2600,5200,7800 games - I think there were over 20,000 games in total built into the latest version of Coin Ops, but it was the first time I noticed the seller listing Atari Jaguar as one of the game lists on it, but i can imagine some of the games not being great (or playing properly) due to the Jaguar controller being mapped onto the Xbox joystick.

 

Anyway, roll on the SD cart for the Jaguar, and roll on a conversion of Pang for the Jaguar if you kind people decide to have a crack at that one in the near future.



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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:24 AM

Anyway, roll on the SD cart for the Jaguar, and roll on a conversion of Pang for the Jaguar if you kind people decide to have a crack at that one in the near future.

 

Matmook was/is working on a Pang game, so I'll leave that one for him :)



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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:05 AM

Yep, OpenShot gets a thumbs up recommendation from me!

 



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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:18 AM

Videos and games look incredible. Love the part where the 'freed' ships don't make the exit with you on R-Type 2. Classic!

Downloading OpenShot now. Had never heard of it :cool:



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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:17 PM

With all of these great ST games being ported to Jaguar, I'm starting to wonder if I should just buy an ST. :D



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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:19 PM

Hey i just want to tell u guys this is great ive got 5 st ports ordered. And i cant wait to get them. But slow down on the realeses tho lol i only got so much cash and i want them all. Ive been away from the jag gor a while and getting this new stuff is awsome. Thank u guys.

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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:30 PM

Can someone do me a favor and list out all of the completed st ports that have NOT had a cart release yet?

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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:42 PM

Can someone do me a favor and list out all of the completed st ports that have NOT had a cart release yet?



Isn't that what's on the first page?

#1315 CyranoJ ONLINE  

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Posted Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:14 AM

Isn't that what's on the first page?

 

It is now :)

 

Can someone do me a favor and list out all of the completed st ports that have NOT had a cart release yet?

 

No, but I've done the opposite, which should be just as useful ;)



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Posted Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:41 AM

Thanks a lot CJ!

I count about 15 complete that are not yet available on carts. Plus, however many more you keep pumping out! Super Sprint is one of the incomplete ones I hope gets finished. As crappy as thundercats is, I still hope that make the cut too and some decent sports ports.

15 * $ = me broke. (Do the math fellows)

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Posted Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:37 PM

Thanks a lot CJ!

I count about 15 complete that are not yet available on carts. Plus, however many more you keep pumping out! Super Sprint is one of the incomplete ones I hope gets finished. As crappy as thundercats is, I still hope that make the cut too and some decent sports ports.

15 * $ = me broke. (Do the math fellows)

 

Yeah, Super Sprint still isn't 'sounding' right.  The game has 3 distinct audio routines and I'm having problems getting those all working together.  Plays fine, but it is very quiet, so not ready for a release as of yet, which is a shame, because it plays great with a TeamTap :)



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Posted Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:51 AM

Yeah, sorry for derailing the thread, just wondered about conversions from the Falcon version to Jag.  Guess the hard part would be if it used Videl / DSP stuff extensively.  Or the 68030. 

 

 

Steel Talons on the Falcon uses the DSP chip for matrix calculations (for the 3D graphics).



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Posted Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:24 PM

A game I just thought of that would lend itself well to the Jaguar would be MicroProse's Airborne Ranger. I used to play the heck out of the PC DOS version back in the day, but it would be really cool to see the Amiga or ST version ported over someday.


looked a bit deeper into the ST and Amiga versions. ..

It seems Imagitec Design handled them and a lot of the gritty atmosphere of the C64 original was lost in the conversion.

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Posted Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:01 PM

Does someone suggested the adventure "Cruise for a corpse"? That looks awesome. The Jaguar is a bit short of sport games, RPGs and point and click adventures. 3D polygon games are probably the very least attractive for porting, the Jaguar already has plenty of them. ;-)



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Posted Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:55 AM

@Aminor:Thinking back, i am sure i saw reports at the time of the STE from Sam Tramiel that Steel Talons was among the list of games he had ordered to showcade the STE computers...

Another was Road Riot 4 Wheel Drive.


Atari claiming they had found a way to get 48 colors on screen instead of the normal 16...hardware scrolling and DMA sound would also be used.




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