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#1 Dropzone OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:47 PM

Hello all

 

I got this from a collector who got it from an other collector... that's just about all I know.

The machine works, but image quality is horrible on a PAL TV.

 

On the top right corner there is a label "2" (shiny metal-like)

On the bottom left there is an other label in Japanese (?)

 

Any information is more than welcome!

 

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#2 Nutsy Doodleheimer OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:44 PM

Heavy Sixers were not released or made in Japan from what I know. The Heavy Sixer was only released in North America. In Japan their models were released in 1983 as the Atari 2800 which looks like the Sears Video Arcade 2 and Atari 7800. It's very likely that these are stickers someone placed on there. Other than that a very pristine and beautiful looking Heavy Sixer.

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Posted Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:57 PM

It is Japanese script. Although I am not that good at reading it.

 

Rough translation for the back sticker:

 

This TV game is 2 Channel dedicated only.

Caution: In addition It cannot be used outside.



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Posted Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:47 PM

If I remember, Epoch imported the 2600 from USA to Japan, years before the 2800.
They sold only a few ones; they were expensive.
They prefered to sell Epoch's own consoles; the Atari one was not their main goal.

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Posted Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:38 PM

Also the trim around the switches is yellow and not orange like us versions.  So it must be foreign.


Edited by 0078265317, Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:39 PM.


#6 0078265317 ONLINE  

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Posted Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:40 PM

And also the rf cord is weird. I don't remember ataris coming with a coax built in.



#7 Nutsy Doodleheimer OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:47 PM

Also the trim around the switches is yellow and not orange like us versions.  So it must be foreign.

Actually Heavy Sixers have a yellowish paint around the trim along the bezel. Light Sixers and 4 switch woodies are orange.

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Posted Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:16 AM

Wonder why it can't be used outside?



#9 Dropzone OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:59 AM

Thanks for the answers!

 

I found this on gamestudies.org:

"However, the production of ‘Made in Japan’ home consoles started in 12 September 1975 with the toy company Epoch[12] and its “TV Tennis Electrotennis”. Epoch made a partnership with Magnavox for the development of the technology, as this console was wireless and functioning through a UHF antenna. It was obviously a Pong clone for the home, and was probably released even before the Atari “Home Pong” which has supposedly been commercialized by Sears for Christmas 1975 (Kent, 2001, p. 242). From 1975 to 1983, until the arrival of the Nintendo Family Computer (Famicom) in 1983, around 125 home consoles were released in Japan, most of them Pong clones and dedicated consoles, including importations of US consoles Odyssey (1974) and Atari VCS (1977) (Atsugi & Mizusaki, 2000; Game Museum, 2005, pp. 5--9)."

 

Is there anybody out there who is knowledgeable enough to confirm that this is an Epoch machine?



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Posted Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:29 PM

Hello all
 
I got this from a collector who got it from an other collector... that's just about all I know.
The machine works, but image quality is horrible on a PAL TV.


The bad image quality can be easily explained, Japanese TVs are NTSC.

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Posted Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:38 PM

Wonder why it can't be used outside?

 

 

No kidding! Just a generic warning I'm sure. Like those tags that read: "WARNING! No user serviceable parts inside".     :lol:

 

Really? I'm a user and those "parts" are quite serviceable to me. Replaceable at least. Maybe that's how they should be phrased: "ATTENTION! It's highly unlikely that you can replace the parts inside, so KEEP OUT"!    :rolling:



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Posted Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:29 PM

Did you try another channel besides the usual 3 and 4? I believe some of these were tuned to use Channel 7 or 8 in Japan... Just a guess.


Edited by GrizzLee, Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:29 PM.


#13 Shawn OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:10 PM

If you are looking to sell, I'm looking to buy.



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Posted Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:56 AM

It is Japanese script. Although I am not that good at reading it.

 

Rough translation for the back sticker:

 

This TV game is 2 Channel dedicated only.

Caution: In addition It cannot be used outside.

I translated it with the Google translator and its like that:

The game is only on channel 2.

Note: You can not use it on an other channel than 2.



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Posted Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:12 PM

I bought that unit mentioned here some days ago.

 

I like to find out about its history.

So if someone has some information or a similar device let me know.

 

Thanks



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Posted Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:23 PM

Just to correct a few things here. The heavy sixer was not limited to north america. I have a genuine PAL heavy sixer that was sold here in the UK. And also mine has an orange bezel that is original, so its not true that all heavy sixers had a yellow painted bezel.
It also has the original 01 combat gatefold in PAL format too as well as 2 original CX10 joysticks. Coaxial cable built in.
Genuine PAL heavy sixers are rare. But it may have been sold in Japan too.
A beautiful looking console indeed.

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Posted Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:09 AM

There is currently
a boxed Japanese model on ebay.
I asked the seller if its ok to upload
Some of his pictures of the box with
the epoch logo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182438629156

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Posted Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:41 AM

There is even a discussion about it ;)
http://atariage.com/...-sixer-on-ebay/

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Posted Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:24 PM

It's not uncommon for importers to put regional labeling on a product, sometimes over the OEM. I'd bet this is real. The End of the RF cable looks like what I have seen in Japan. My heavy sixer had a hardwired RF cable... *had*.



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Posted Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:44 PM

It may be real, but for $895.00 it should come with a true pair of CX-10s and hex discs.



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Posted Sun Apr 2, 2017 10:11 AM

U.S. Heavy Sixers, at least the early ones, were dedicated to channel 2 and did not have a channel select switch.  The text on the Epoch import states that the console can only be used on channel 2.  However, which channel 2?  The U.S. channel 2 is in the 54-60MHz band, but the Japanese Channel 2 is in the 96-102MHz band.  U.S. and Japanese TVs of the time did not have the ability to receive at the other country's respective frequencies.  Therefore, I cannot see how these systems would have worked in Japan unless Atari or Epoch modified the RF modulator inside the system.  

 

Also, that connector may look like a 300-75 Ohm Balun, but I think it is more likely to be a right angle coaxial connector that someone put on as a mod. Japanese TVs tended to support both 300 Ohm separated pair and 75 Ohm single wire connections, but earlier TVs require the user to twist a wire around a screw connector and clamp the ground shielding for 75 Ohms. Later TVs may have come with a coaxial screw.  


Edited by Great Hierophant, Sun Apr 2, 2017 10:12 AM.


#22 TomBrazil OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Sep 9, 2017 3:49 PM

Folks, please check my new thread about this subject: http://atariage.com/...-now/?p=3844283



#23 Shawn OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:47 PM

Folks, please check my new thread about this subject: http://atariage.com/...-now/?p=3844283

 

Awesome score dude :)



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Posted Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:42 PM

 

Awesome score dude :)

 

Thanx, Shawn!



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Posted Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:46 AM

U.S. Heavy Sixers, at least the early ones, were dedicated to channel 2 and did not have a channel select switch.

 

Very informative post.  But, I do not believe this part to be entirely accurate.  I have a Heavy Sixer w/o channel select switch and it tunes to channel 3 (I have not put a scope on it to check the output, but all my TVs tune it on 3).  I believe the Heavy Sixers w/o the channel select switch overall varied what channel it tuned to.  It would be interesting to compile the data from the Heavy Sixer serial number list here to see the variance.

 

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