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Is this a case of "it's easier to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission"?

In the end mentioned or not the feature is there. If it is the feature that angers the partners, not mentioning it would anger them even more .... or do I NOT understand how these things work?

 

To be a bit vague, I just mean that one or more partners are not necessarily comfortable with mentioning it explicitly in a press release, so for consistency it's just left off both. I'd rather "beg for forgiveness," but that's probably not the best approach. ;-)

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How's that? The feature is still present, so they bit .... right? I'm confused.

 

A lot of things in business/retail/etc. don't make sense, but I guess that's the price of doing business and staying in business. You play the game even if it doesn't make sense and you push back when you can, but only just enough, etc.

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Huh, I never saw this AtGames variant before. Arcade-style joystick with a (prominently featured) SD card slot. No cartridge port. This appeals to me, and it's currently cheaper than the other Genesis clones on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/At-Games-Arcade-Master-Electronic/dp/B0042PXJT8

 

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That looks freaking cool, but for $40 I wonder how good the joystick is. I could see hacking in an NOAC clone and making an NES arcade out of it.

 

I also found this. Pacman Plug-n-Play is back apparently. I never picked up the first round. Did these ever have Ms Pacman on them? I don't see it listed...

https://www.amazon.com/Pac-Man-Connect-Play-Classic-Games/dp/B0104G9K4Q/

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Will the flashback portable work with 7800 Roms for the sd card slot or is the tech not there for the avanced graphics if it can it will be a big plus for the system.

 

It would be a big plus for core Atari fans, but maybe not for anyone else. No, it only plays Atari 2600 games. I'll see about suggesting the possibility for next year, though.

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Are the same games on the portable sega and console for 2016 the two phantasy star games with save features on the handheld as well if so if I add phantasy star 4 on did card will it save as well

 

 

The same games are on both. I won't know if non-resident games will support saves until August.

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"Yawning Triceratops"? Now there is a title that demands a surreal anime OVA series to go with it.

 

I'm just about 100% positive it has to due with Nintendo licensing Pac-Man from Namco for the Amiibo figure as well as his being in Super Smash Bros.

. . . What? Nintendo does not have an exclusive license on Pac-Man. Heck, the most recent Pac-Man games have even been multi-platform. It's much more likely that Pac-Man is missing from the Flashbacks simply because it's an expensive license (for AtGames), what with the name being well recognized around the world.

 

I also found this. Pacman Plug-n-Play is back apparently. I never picked up the first round. Did these ever have Ms Pacman on them? I don't see it listed...

That's from last year; you can tell because of the 35th anniversary markings on the box. It's a re-release of the 2012 product, same games.

 

I'm glad to see some form of real improvement on the Genesis systems (the save support, I mean). Phantasy Star on a plug-n-play system--and in the same year as Final Fantasy appearing on a plug-n-play system! This is indeed a year of interesting firsts for this market.

 

onmode-ky

 

P.S. Bill, here's an oooold question for you: do you know what the meaning is behind the name "AtGames"?

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Interesting to see this style of gaming come full circle in this way. First we had pong, hockey, tank, shooter consoles. Now we have yet another product with built in games. This time built around cheap tech, copious memory, fast processors, on-screen menus.. bringing many disciplines and lessons to the sub $100 bargain bin!

 

I bet these mini flashbacks would have happened years ago had the cheap tech existed back then, AND a library of games were available to pick form. Though the latter issue solved itself way before cheap tech became available.

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By years ago, do you mean many many (like 30+ years) ago? Because as you know, the plug and play far is not new, and peaked over ten years ago. It's pretty amazing it's back with so many choices this year.

 

A console stuffed with as many games as we see today would have been super duper even as recently as 20 years ago. I would have happily paid $200 for something like either AtGames toy back in 1996. The Chinese famiclones with 100 embedded pirate games scene could have been embraced by the license holders with better hardware and official support ...but I wonder what that move would have done to game pricing. We were being asked to pay $40 and up for each of the games bundled on the Flashback back then.

 

It's always amazing to me to think back on how even the most rudimentary Atari games were priced. I'm so happy to be living in the modern era.

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Plug and plays have been around since before consoles. Dedicated handhelds existed long before the DMG Game Boy kicked off the handheld fad, and you can still find cheap LCD games today that are no more expensive than a pocket calculator. So no surprise that dedicated systems, with or without a portable screen, still exist in some form or fashion despite the rise of smartphone tech. Retro-styled games are deplorable with touch screen controls.

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Remember when a "pocket calculator" would cost $200?

My dad had a Casio scientific with red digits. Not sure if it was the LED or Vacuum Fluorescent type. When you punched in computations, the segments on the display would go berserk until the result was displayed. As a kid, I used to love watching it execute 69 factorial. That took a LONG time to compute, during which the segments would flicker incessantly for a good few minutes before displaying the result. I believe he paid a pretty penny for that calculator when he was in college. It ran on 4xAAA or a DC adapter with 3/32" ball tip. I wish I could locate the thing. It's probably in the garage somewhere if we still have it. Still worked last time I played with it some years ago.

 

You are "at" the games? ¯\_(ッ)_/¯

 

I assumed it was to represent the @ symbol, which would have been cool in the dot.com days of 20 years ago.

Yup. "Alt.Games" or "AltGames" would have been even more retro! :lolblue:

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Are there any high resolution pictures of the portable unit yet? All I could find is a small one that is hard to see any detail.

 

They're being worked on. The official social media presence should be active soon and some time in August the new Website.

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Check out this word salad about the Sega handheld. Do you think it was written by a machine, or someone who doesn't speak English well?

 

http://www.parentherald.com/articles/58737/20160803/sega-is-back-showing-improvement-on-sales-will-release-mini-and-handheld-version-of-sega-genesis.htm

I am objectively to the contrary for believe that this article is having without much error to not be able to be out of much ordinary for the people having good reason to read this great news

 

tl;dr: I made a funny

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I am objectively to the contrary for believe that this article is having without much error to not be able to be out of much ordinary for the people having good reason to read this great news

 

tl;dr: I made a funny

Exactly!

 

Original article quoted here so as not to feed traffic to that content-mill site that was machine translated from Mandarin or something.

 

Sega almost diminished from the past decade due to a massive competition against other companies. Today Sega seems to be rising up again showing an impressive sales improvement.The record shows from the past three months, Sega increased their sales compared to what they have from last year's same period.

 

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For this year's second quarter, Sega gained a remarkable $692 million, increasing almost 34 percent of their profit last year which is around $520 million according to Gamespot.

 

Sega fails to fight back against Big Three Companies on the gaming market (Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft). Though Sega stopped the production of Sega Dreamcast back in 2001, Sega still continue their battle by making games and released each game through the competitor's gaming hardware.

 

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Sega launch a couple of popular games, the most popular of all is the Phantasy Star Online. Phantasy Star Online gained its fans when it was released on the PSP due its inviting gameplay. Persona series also climbed up the ladder of popularity on its genre. Total War: Warhammer also set the records for SEGA's profit, have over 20 million copies being sold for the past 17 years.

 

Having locked up in a very limited market and a huge competition on the next generation gaming console, Sega expects a small progress and it is targeting Asia. They seem to have a plan releasing games on the PC platform to enter a much larger market, internationally.

 

As of today, Sega is focusing on their upcoming Mini Mega Drive and Portable Genesis, which is set to release this October at the same time. They are hoping to gain a good market in the UK since they are planning to release in the UK in October as well. These two upcoming console will be competing against Nintendo Mini Nes and the new consoles have a built-in 80 games each.

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Check out this word salad about the Sega handheld. Do you think it was written by a machine, or someone who doesn't speak English well?

 

http://www.parentherald.com/articles/58737/20160803/sega-is-back-showing-improvement-on-sales-will-release-mini-and-handheld-version-of-sega-genesis.htm

I am objectively to the contrary for believe that this article is having without much error to not be able to be out of much ordinary for the people having good reason to read this great news

 

tl;dr: I made a funny

The current media is spinning the Atgames Sega consoles as if they were an answer to Nintendo's NES Mini. I think moreso the opposite is true. The NES Mini is more of a response to all the crappy plug-n-plays released over the years, both licensed and bootleg. Either way, this unexpected publicity for the AtGames Sega piggybacking on the popularity of the NES Mini could increase sales due to added exposure.

 

Funny no mention of the Atari AtGames products. It's as if the media would like people to believe that Atari never existed? :P

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Funny no mention of the Atari AtGames products. It's as if the media would like people to believe that Atari never existed? :P

 

That would be more than fine with me! Every year, I look for the Sega handheld, and every year I'm too late!!! I'll be real upset if the Atari portable goes the same route >_<

 

Good news about them fixing the audio in the Sega handheld next year, maybe I'll finally pick one up (I mean, you know, if they don't sell out first).

 

I saw someone ask, but I didn't see an answer, will the Atari portable have a joystick port?

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The current media is spinning the Atgames Sega consoles as if they were an answer to Nintendo's NES Mini. I think moreso the opposite is true. The NES Mini is more of a response to all the crappy plug-n-plays released over the years, both licensed and bootleg. Either way, this unexpected publicity for the AtGames Sega piggybacking on the popularity of the NES Mini could increase sales due to added exposure.

 

Funny no mention of the Atari AtGames products. It's as if the media would like people to believe that Atari never existed? :P

The NES Classic Mini is more of a reaction to Nintendo's declining profits and stock value, I would think. But the press likes a horse race, and the extra lazy press haven't noticed there have been many, many other releases of Sega retro things.

 

Yeah, Atari has faded from mass market consciousness. Generation X is over, it's someone else's turn.

 

That would be more than fine with me! Every year, I look for the Sega handheld, and every year I'm too late!!! I'll be real upset if the Atari portable goes the same route >_<

 

Good news about them fixing the audio in the Sega handheld next year, maybe I'll finally pick one up (I mean, you know, if they don't sell out first).

 

I saw someone ask, but I didn't see an answer, will the Atari portable have a joystick port?

 

Amazon always has this stuff, this year should be no different. I would order it online instead of trying to find it in a store. They aren't in short supply. You can still get one right now if you do a web search for online stores carrying the sega genesis portable. I would wait for the 2016 version, though -- if for no other reason than to be able to save progress in the 3 roleplaying games.

 

There's no joystick port on the Atari portable, just video out. All the embedded games on it will be for one player only.

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