+therealbountybob Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Desmond's Dungeon and third time lucky at finding a decent bonus game, I've gone for Nadral from Sikor's list Desmond's Dungeon A hell of a good game, platformer with 2 stages and a lot of fun too. [select]=pause/resume Play from level 1 Bonus Challenges (Points for top 5 in current standings, and a point for everyone else to go for) 1. highest score on level 1 (both screens in 1 man) 2. highest level reached starting on level 8 (select on the title screen) 3. set new HSC record - Scalak 151,520 Downloads Play the version with "English Software" on the title screen (the Creative Sparks version will not let you access all the levels!) - Desmond's Dungeon (1984)(Sparklers)(GB)[a1].XEX from atarionline.pl This akosoft ATR may be ok too Page 6 Mag's review Atarimania - detailed manual Nadral One of the games I was never sure about, I wandered around being impressed but then had no idea what to do! I think it's sort of Shamus like, find the keys/doors but I may be wrong, if someone knows the game please post a guide to play! [it is sort of like Shamus!] Play from level 1 1pt per player - levels complete then score will count. Downloads Fandal XEX - [see comments re NTSC] Atarimania - comments have info This from Andreas: Nadral, the little flying 'helicopter bird' has to rescue his (similar looking) friend who is hidden behind some doors in the labyrinth. In order to open the doors, you have to find the keys distributed in the labyrinth. When you have opened all doors in a level, you can go to the room with the friend and voila, you can touch him and enter the next level... In the upper levels, the map of the labyrinth is quite complicated :-) Round ends Sunday 10th April 10pm UK time Edited April 2, 2016 by therealbountybob top secret - ok more info added! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Need to be careful as some versions had different bonus timers too, can't remember which though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Need to be careful as some versions had different bonus timers too, can't remember which though Good point, there might be an NTSC issue, if everyone can play the English Software version above we'll see how we go Just had a play, Level 1 Challenge 2,980 and reached Vault 9 (from the start) 54,580 great fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 There's no version numbers on the atarionline xex files, I'm guessing it's the last one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookt Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 First play got to level 3 (from the start) 7,200 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 The last xex on atarionline didn't work. I got stuck on level 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deteacher Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Does anyone have the correct ROM file for DD? All the ones on Atarionline don't seem to be the correct ones...neither is the one on Atarimania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 The one on this ATR works Games08.atr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 105550 level 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deteacher Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 The one on this ATR works Thanks, Kong! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 There's no version numbers on the atarionline xex files, I'm guessing it's the last one? The last xex on atarionline didn't work. I got stuck on level 11 Sorry looks like online.pl have renamed their files since last time - try Desmond's Dungeon (1984)(Sparklers)(GB)[a1].xex. LOOK FOR "ENGLISH SOFTWARE" ON THE TITLE SCREEN, also allows levels1-8 to be started on from the off. I played Nadral and was pleasantly surprised, basically it IS Shamus so we'll again score on levels completed before score. The game does let you start on last level reached but play from level 1 "alpha". I completed level 1 and scored 25,510. I'm not good with mentally mapping games unless I dig out the crayons like I did for Zeppelin! Hopefully should be plenty to keep everyone busy for this round and might be McKong's chance to end the drought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deteacher Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) Just to make sure everyone knows (because I didn't think to do this before today) make sure your emulator is set to PAL for Nadral. When played in NTSC, You can sometimes go through walls, sometimes items can't be picked up, enemies can't be shot sometimes. Oh, and my first submission: Desmond's Dungeon: 27,070. Got to dungeon 6. Edited March 30, 2016 by Deteacher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballyalley Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I just played "Nadral" for the first time under PAL emulation in Altirra. While it seems similar to "Shamus," the fact that you can only shoot left or right makes the game quite a bit different. "Nadral" looks pretty trippy; I really like the weird graphic effects. There are some rather strange creatures roaming these, I guess, caverns. The chomping toilet could well be a renegade from "Manic Miner!" It's too bad that this game didn't get a proper release anywhere. I wonder if there are German instructions for this game that describe the backstory? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Slight improvement 108750 Challenge 1 3010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deteacher Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Improved quite a bit on Desmond: 81,780. Vault 11 Level 1 Challenge: 3080. I need to step away from this one for a bit. Time for some Nadral, I suppose. Edited March 31, 2016 by Deteacher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblenkle Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Desmond's Dungeon - 5,690 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Challenge 2 Vault 15 92980 Edited April 2, 2016 by McKong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikor Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKong Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 109950 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 Just to make sure everyone knows (because I didn't think to do this before today) make sure your emulator is set to PAL for Nadral. When played in NTSC, You can sometimes go through walls, sometimes items can't be picked up, enemies can't be shot sometimes. Thanks for this, I thought it was ok I just played "Nadral" for the first time under PAL emulation in Altirra. While it seems similar to "Shamus," the fact that you can only shoot left or right makes the game quite a bit different. "Nadral" looks pretty trippy; I really like the weird graphic effects. There are some rather strange creatures roaming these, I guess, caverns. The chomping toilet could well be a renegade from "Manic Miner!" It's too bad that this game didn't get a proper release anywhere. I wonder if there are German instructions for this game that describe the backstory? I'm hoping it gets more challenging re the A.I. and light posts as the levels progress Improved quite a bit on Desmond: 81,780. Vault 11 Level 1 Challenge: 3080. I need to step away from this one for a bit. Time for some Nadral, I suppose. Was that on NTSC? (if so the bonus/timers are ok) Challenge 2 Vault 15 92980 Improved by a massive 10pts on Challenge 1: 2,990 and made it thorough to Vault 11: 71,760 DD Tips: 1. lure the Baron's bombs away to the side of you. 2. Wait for him to go up before passing him on the top row. 3. On the higher levels allow your power to re-charge before tackling the Vaults Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 first tables Desmond's Dungeon 1st McKong (p) 109,950 12pts 2nd Deteacher (n) 81,780 11pts 3rd therealbountybob (p) 71,760 10pts 4th Sikor (p) 12,010 9pts 5th spookt (p) 7,200 8pts 6th jblenkle (n) 5,690 7pts Challenge 1 - Level 1 Highest Score in 1 man 1st Deteacher (n) 3,080 1pt 2nd McKong (p) 3,010 3rd therealbountybob (p) 2,990 4th Sikor (p) 2,930 Challenge 2 - Starting on Level 8 Highest Level reached 1st McKong (p) Level 15 (92,980) 1pt Nadral 1st therealbountybob (p) 25,510 Level 2 1pt New Poll starts tomorrow - anyone screaming at me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deteacher Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 TRBB: Yes, I was playing DD on NTSC. I might have to give this a go round on my new 1200xl later on today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+therealbountybob Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 Current Standings Updated Round 7 Poll OPEN I was going to put the awesome Warhawk on the list but it is not NTSC compatible - there is a growing list of great games you guys in the states are missing out on so get a PAL system or try on emulation: Warhawk, Zone X and Electra Glide for starters (Sikor you can add a replacement game to your games list as you wish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballyalley Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 there is a growing list of great games you guys in the states are missing out on so get a PAL system or try on emulation: Warhawk, Zone X and Electra Glide for starters I still prefer real hardware to emulation, but the main reason I prefer it has changed. Nowadays, real hardware is my main method of playing games due to how the picture looks. These classic Atari games were meant to be played on CRT TVs. The murkiness of the picture, which I used to always want to do away with, has turned out to be part of the appeal and accuracy of the older game consoles and computers. Under emulation, you get a screen full of hard-edged pixels. On a real TV, the pixels sort of merge and soften at the edges which makes the games look, I don't know, just, well... better. Am I making sense here? Atari 8-Bit emulation has come a very long way since I first encountered it in the mid-to-late 90s. Back then, the only emulator that I was aware of was Xformer-- and I think that was a commercial product. That emulator was finicky, at best, and I probably cheered when the Atari800Win emulator arrived on the scene. Now we have Altrirra, which is my favorite emulator of any platform. Altirra has me spoiled. It interesting to note that PAL games that work 100% correctly under NTSC still have timing issues that are built right into them. Some of these timing issue can really affect gameplay. I've learned, right here in the Atari HSC, that these PAL games play best in, you guessed it, PAL mode. Now, if a game is PAL, then I might give it a try on my real NTSC hardware, but I prefer to play it as the author intended it to be played, on a PAL system. That means I use use PAL emulation. So.. thank you so much to all the emulator authors for their hard work and dedication to platforms that might have otherwise passed only into memory. Adam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Current Standings Updated Round 7 Poll OPEN I was going to put the awesome Warhawk on the list but it is not NTSC compatible - there is a growing list of great games you guys in the states are missing out on so get a PAL system or try on emulation: Warhawk, Zone X and Electra Glide for starters (Sikor you can add a replacement game to your games list as you wish One day we will have my ATARI UK round 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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