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#1 Majdachi OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Apr 7, 2016 1:03 PM

I have an alice 8000 for sale, serial number 24! Fully working and vgc, less than 10 exist on earth today, anyone interested please message me. Thank you : .

#2 Keatah ONLINE  

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Posted Thu Apr 7, 2016 2:23 PM

Don't even know what Alice 8000 is ? ?

#3 TPA5 OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Apr 7, 2016 2:40 PM

Some more info will help you out. Pictures, what kind of price you're wanting, where you are located (even roughly), what the item actually is, some proof that you aren't just a scammer, etc. Trust me, you won't get much love with such a bare-bones post.



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Posted Thu Apr 7, 2016 2:44 PM

It's a rate French computer... All I know.  

 

https://randoc.wordp...tra-alice-8000/

 

Rate != valuable, if nobody knows what the heck it is. It would have to have a great story.


Edited by R.Cade, Thu Apr 7, 2016 2:45 PM.


#5 Keatah ONLINE  

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Posted Thu Apr 7, 2016 3:19 PM

How about pictures of the actual unit for sale?



#6 Ksarul OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Apr 8, 2016 5:19 AM

I've had dealings with Majdachi before, all of which have gone well. Pictures would definitely help though. :)



#7 Majdachi OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 9, 2016 1:12 AM

Sorry for the late reply, as for this computer, only 100 of this machine were ever made, and less than 10 still exist today, 3 are in working condition, please check the attached photos... thank you : .20160330_095923.jpg 20160330_100228.jpg 20160330_100215.jpg 20160330_100205.jpg 20160330_100126.jpg 20160330_095716.jpg 20160330_095637.jpg

#8 Keatah ONLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 9, 2016 10:12 AM

Put it up on eBay.

#9 Majdachi OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 9, 2016 12:34 PM

Actually i live in Lebanon (middle east), and not very proud of that, we don't have ebay here, we can't register, i pay a fortune everytime i want to buy a computer from abroad, reason why i cannot sell on ebay, plus the bidding would start at around 25K, this machine is not a joke... regards to all...

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Posted Sat Apr 9, 2016 1:53 PM

If you find the right buyer/collector I'm sure it'd go for as much as the early low serial number Apple II rigs. Somewhere between $1000 and $5000.. Just be patient.

 

Wait.. 25K ?? Dunno about that.. The most expensive Apple II in recent times on ebay was #14, and it had a good history behind it. It sold for 18K.


Edited by Keatah, Sat Apr 9, 2016 1:55 PM.


#11 Majdachi OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:19 AM

Hi, indeed the apple ii was sold for 18k, but we should consider how many apple ii were made and how many alice 8000 were made and still exist in a working good condition with manuals... less than 5 in the world.. i think this is something... we will see how it goes...

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Posted Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:25 AM

The specific Apple I mentioned had a history behind it in addition to the "standard" apple history. What would be the story behind this?



#13 Majdachi OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:45 AM

The simple story is that only a hundred Alices have been built, Matra trashed most of these Alices, only 20 machines were sold for a symbolic price to a school, and 10 others were given to developers and other members of the project. Later on the 20 school machines were also destroyed, so nowadays only about 10 are known to exist and less than half are working...

From a collectors point of view the Alice 8000 is extremely attractive because of its rarity, home computer type, the 2 CPUs which i guess was the first computer to have multiple CPUs, and its beautiful design.

Maybe the alice 8000 doesn't have much 'story' but we cannot deny that it's a missing piece of the computing history for the 80s era...

If nobody even knows what this computer was, how would someone know a story about it? I'm sure this machine is something... and only a really serious computer collector would care about it...

Edited by Majdachi, Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:53 AM.


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Posted Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:05 AM

You are correct that it seems to be ultra rare, however expecting 25K for it may be a stretch.
It seems that most of the info on it online was posted by you?

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Posted Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:01 AM

I can empathize with the OP here. He is absolutely right, by what he has stated, it's obviously a very rare machine, and should be worth quite a bit of money to a collector.

The problem is that it's a niche item and only appeals to a niche market. Vintage retro video games like Atari, Sega, and Nintendo for example have worldwide appeal and interest to millions of people. Vintage computing devices have a far less appeal and interest to the general population and even among collectors.

A video game system plays unique games designed for that system. A computer plays games as well, some unique to it even, but mostly runs programs; most of which are the same or similar to another program for another computer. (a word processor is a word processor; nothing fun there!?)

So, it's like collecting VHS or BetaMax players. Sure, many units are indeed extremely rare, but a DVD or BluRay player plays the same Star Wars movie that the 30 year old VHS or BetaMax player plays. So the interest is far less.

This is a supply versus demand thing. There may very well be only 5 in the world, but there are maybe 20 people in the world who care. Supply is low, but demand is also low.

Good luck with your pursuit to sell it. And thank you for the pictures. It is enjoyable to see it.

Edited by Supergun, Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:02 AM.

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#16 Majdachi OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:46 AM

All what you previously stated is absolutely right, we shall wait and see what could happen, meanwhile, if you know someone interested in such machine, please let me know :. Many thanks in advance and best regards :.

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Posted Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:59 AM

Thats a cool machine. if it was much much cheaper than 25k or even 1 to 5k i might have interest as a curiosity. But its too expensive of an area for me. but things like this really interest me



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Posted Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:55 PM

Maybe you want to check with some collectors or get advice from DigiBarn. I think they're big into this sort of thing.



#19 Majdachi OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:39 PM

Will try to contact DigiBarn via their website... thank you for the info :.

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Posted Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:57 AM

25K is about the same or slightly above what a Commodore 65 sells for. The number of existing machines - the C65 never went beyond prototype stage with a number of motherboard variants - is roughly the same, but the Commodore is much better known among collectors.



#21 Majdachi OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:01 AM

Indeed and true, price would be certainly negotiable once a serious buyer is found...

#22 Majdachi OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:01 AM

I have found a working C65 for 15K in non working condition

Edited by Majdachi, Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:04 AM.


#23 Majdachi OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:02 AM

And contacted DigiBarn, we'll see how all goes...

Edited by Majdachi, Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:05 AM.


#24 atari181 OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:13 AM

I have found a working C65 for 15K in non working condition

HUH?????

#25 Majdachi OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:30 AM

Sorry for the typing mistake, it was meant to be non working condition...

A collector somewhere in italy has it... someone told me... i think it's too much for a non working machine... even its rarity...

Edited by Majdachi, Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:31 AM.





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