klokwrkblu Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Has anyone managed to get CONCURRENT CP/M 86 boot disk working on a modern computer. I cant seem to find a boot disk that works, but thats what im trying to do. Also is ther an easy way to drag and drop files from a windows/linux computer into the native file system? And if not make it happen. p.s. modify it to run usb and CD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPA5 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 So you're trying to get an OS that's almost 35 years old to run on a modern machine? With drag-and-drop? And USB and CD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkO Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I believe the Concurrent DOS disks I have are Copy Protected too... MarkO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 So you're trying to get an OS that's almost 35 years old to run on a modern machine? With drag-and-drop? And USB and CD? Wat-3d-Gif-12.png MS-DOS is that old and can recognize USB and CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 MS-DOS is that old and can recognize USB and CD. This. USB2.0, Firewire, SCSI, Windows Networking shares, etc. etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPA5 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) MS-DOS is that old and can recognize USB and CD. CD yes, USB nope. Not natively anyway, which was his question. Not that it matters what MS-DOS supports, as he's asking about CP/M which doesn't support CD or USB natively as far as I'm aware. Maybe someone out there has created some drivers for it, but out-of-box it's a no-go. Maybe my post came across as rude, didn't mean to. The OP's request to "make it happen" struck me as demanding and amusing. Edited May 31, 2016 by TPA5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 In theory, any machine with a standard (non-USB) floppy and possibly IDE based drives could be made to work, but no promises.IDE came out about the time of the last major Concurrent CP/M 86 release, but I *think* it would work as long as CP/M 86 uses standard BIOS calls. Even if it supports IDE hard drives via the BIOS, you might need to use small CF cards (128MB - 512MB?) as a hard drive since the file system probably doesn't support large drives.IDE to CF card adapters are only a few bucks on ebay.SATA, SD Card, and USB drives *might* be out of the question without writing drivers.While SATA hard drives might work via the BIOS, you might not be able to find one small enough in the event that is an issue.I have my doubts about existing CD-ROM driver support since the first standards weren't published until around 1988 or 1989.By then I'm pretty sure CP/M 86 was pretty much done in the marketplace. I'm not aware of any tools for transferring data across disk formats since I've never used Concurrent CP/M 86You can google it as easy as I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Usotsuki Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Well, DOSPLUS is a hamstrung version of CCP/M-86, and can read and write both CP/M and DOS disks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Isn't he asking for a way to boot Concurrent CP/M from an USB memory stick or CD-ROM, i.e. stick a floppy drive emulator onto the media of choice and from that program boot an image of the OS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) MS-DOS is that old and can recognize USB and CD. Not exactly. MS-DOS was supported until 1995, and parts of it inside Windows 98 until later than that. CP/M pretty much ended in the 80's. We don't need to even get into "how widely" one was supported vs. the other. Edited May 31, 2016 by R.Cade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Isn't he asking for a way to boot Concurrent CP/M from an USB memory stick or CD-ROM, i.e. stick a floppy drive emulator onto the media of choice and from that program boot an image of the OS? He should probably boot a floppy image on an emulator, install it on a hard drive image and copy that to a CF card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 They ever make any CP/M games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhd Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 They ever make any CP/M games? I seem to recall having seen advertisements for Scott Adams and Infocom tiles that ran under CP/M. They WERE available on 8" floppy. Presumably, an early dungeon crawler like Rogue may be available as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I seem to recall having seen advertisements for Scott Adams and Infocom tiles that ran under CP/M. They WERE available on 8" floppy. Presumably, an early dungeon crawler like Rogue may be available as well. That sounds about like what is available for 8080/Z80 CP/M. But CP/M and CP/M 86 are not the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 They ever make any CP/M games? There were text games at least for CP/M (I don't know about CP/M 86). The "issue" with CP/M is that it doesn't have any set of graphical instructions, so any graphical game will be tied to a machine, such as the Amstrad PCW (and I think most Amstrad PCW games doesn't need CP/M to boot, they will boot at the machine start ot from Locoscript). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Usotsuki Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 The Zorks existed on CP/M-86, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klokwrkblu Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 what i did is use an old Pentium 3 PC with both a 5 1/4" and 3.5" floppy drives loaded cp/m-86 and ran dskmaint.cmd made a copy of all the software disks from the b: drive to the a: drive. Then one by one i loaded the disks on a more modern system through a USB floppy drive and made .img files of the disks using winrar.exe when the images are copied on blank floppies, & then rebooted on a machine with a 3.5 floppy drive they will run. CPM86 Img files.zip CPM-86 11 BLANK.zip CPM86 DBASEII.zip CPM86 GAMES.zip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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