+Random Terrain Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 With permission, I'm adapting the blog entry by IHATETHEBEARS so I can use the list with my Atari game release date pages. Most games in the list will eventually link to an entry on a release date page. Here's a link to the new page: randomterrain.com/rt-atari-2600-game-list.html I'd like the text below to be a correct description of the list: Below is a list of NTSC Atari 2600 cartridges that were released in North America between 1977 and 1992. PAL games, contest cartridges, hacks, and illegal knockoffs are not included. I don't know that much about the fringe companies. Can those of you who know more about this stuff help me remove any companies that shouldn't be in my version of the list? Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Worthy cause and thanks for posting! Remember seeing a list like this BITD on Usenet, but today will come in handy for those that want a tighter game selection for their Harmony's vs. sifting through humongous rom sets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KaeruYojimbo Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 That list is actually a list of unique NTSC games, not necessarily cartridges. For example, the Playaround games were all released as double enders and each game has a gender-swapped version that isn't listed. The Xonox games were released in various combinations as double enders as well. Companies like Zellers and Telegames re-released games from other publishers and only the games that didn't have another NTSC release are listed. Depending on what exactly your end goal is, you might want to either remove those two and the other "re-releasers" or find a more complete listing of the cartridges they put out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 That list is actually a list of unique NTSC games, not necessarily cartridges. For example, the Playaround games were all released as double enders and each game has a gender-swapped version that isn't listed. The Xonox games were released in various combinations as double enders as well. Companies like Zellers and Telegames re-released games from other publishers and only the games that didn't have another NTSC release are listed. Depending on what exactly your end goal is, you might want to either remove those two and the other "re-releasers" or find a more complete listing of the cartridges they put out. Thanks. See if this is better: Below is a list of unique Atari 2600 NTSC games that were released in North America between 1977 and 1992. PAL games, contest cartridges, hacks, illegal knockoffs, and repackaged games with different names are not included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 I updated the text again: Below is a list of unique Atari 2600 NTSC games that were released in North America between 1977 and 1992. PAL games, contest cartridges, hacks, illegal knockoffs, and repackaged games with different names are not included. This list also excludes unique games that most people never heard of back then. If you can't find the game in a popular classic video game magazine or newsletter, it probably won't be listed here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Glib .....Selchow and Righter, not Richter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 How about Control Video Cooperation and Save the Whales? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 Glib .....Selchow and Righter, not Richter Thanks. I'll tell IHATETHEBEARS so he can update his blog too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 How about Control Video Cooperation and Save the Whales? Never released according to the Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Save The Whales was one of those games reproduced and sold at CGE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jeremiahjt Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) I know for the Atari releases that had two different names you have the name that comes earlier in the alphabet listed with the other name in parentheses. Would it not make more sense to have the first name listed with the second name in parentheses? So you would have Hunt & Score (A Game of Concentration) and Stargate (Defender II) instead of reversed. I just looked again and you have Stargate done like that already. You either just changed it or I looked at it wrong. Edited May 18, 2016 by jeremiahjt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 I know for the Atari releases that had two different names you have the name that comes earlier in the alphabet listed with the other name in parentheses. Would it not make more sense to have the first name listed with the second name in parentheses? So you would have Hunt & Score (A Game of Concentration) and Stargate (Defender II) instead of reversed. I just looked again and you have Stargate done like that already. You either just changed it or I looked at it wrong. Thanks. It looks like IHATETHEBEARS wasn't consistent with which name came first. I'll do a search for parentheses and put the old name first and have the new name in parentheses. Seems to be consistent now: randomterrain.com/rt-atari-2600-game-list.html I also removed some companies from the list. I wanted to get rid of re-releasers and companies with unique games that most people never heard of back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballblaɀer Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I wanted to get rid of re-releasers and companies with unique games that most people never heard of back then. I'd argue that VentureVision's Rescue Terra I shouldn't be listed, then. Perhaps it was an exaggeration, but Dan Oliver said they sold "about 10" copies, and VentureVision closed before selling any other titles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 I'd argue that VentureVision's Rescue Terra I shouldn't be listed, then. Perhaps it was an exaggeration, but Dan Oliver said they sold "about 10" copies, and VentureVision closed before selling any other titles. I might leave it since it was mentioned in more than one magazine/newsletter: randomterrain.com/atari-2600-memories-history-1982.html#rescue_terra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballblaɀer Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) I might leave it since it was mentioned in more than one magazine/newsletter: randomterrain.com/atari-2600-memories-history-1982.html#rescue_terra After reading through the rest of that (great) thread that I linked to, I agree -- I think it's fine to stay on the list. Edited May 18, 2016 by Ballblaɀer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubersaurus Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Why skip over those companies that only put out one game or so? Air Raid is hard to track down, but stuff like Boing, Extra Terrestrials, Gamma-Attack, Red Sea Crossing... those do have sources for release info (even if it's single source in each case), and they are still unique games that should be counted in the NTSC library. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KaeruYojimbo Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I agree that companies that released "games that most people never heard of back then" should be included if they released unique games that were sold commercially. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 Why skip over those companies that only put out one game or so? Air Raid is hard to track down, but stuff like Boing, Extra Terrestrials, Gamma-Attack, Red Sea Crossing... those do have sources for release info (even if it's single source in each case), and they are still unique games that should be counted in the NTSC library. I agree that companies that released "games that most people never heard of back then" should be included if they released unique games that were sold commercially. Thanks. I put them back in: randomterrain.com/rt-atari-2600-game-list.html Please let me know if you think I missed any. I also changed the introductory text back to this: Below is a list of unique Atari 2600 NTSC games that were released in North America between 1977 and 1992. PAL games, contest cartridges, hacks, illegal knockoffs, and repackaged games with different names are not included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KaeruYojimbo Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Please let me know if you think I missed any. Personal Games/Birthday Mania 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 Personal Games/Birthday Mania Thanks. Added: randomterrain.com/rt-atari-2600-game-list.html#personal_games_company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymailman Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I did not see the following titles on the list. Sunrise - Quest for Quintanna Roo Telegames - Glacier Patrol and Universal Chaos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KaeruYojimbo Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Ultravision - Karate, Condor Attack Both these games were later re-released (Karate by Froggo, Condor Attack by K-Tel as Vulture Attack). If the aim is to create a timeline, it might be worth noting re-releases. For example: BMX Airmaster (released 19XX, re-released by Atari 19XX), Quest for Quintana Roo (released 19XX, re-released by Telegames 19XX), etc. Something to consider anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 I did not see the following titles on the list. Sunrise - Quest for Quintanna Roo Telegames - Glacier Patrol and Universal Chaos Thanks. Added: randomterrain.com/rt-atari-2600-game-list.html#sunrise Ultravision - Karate, Condor Attack Thanks. Added: randomterrain.com/rt-atari-2600-game-list.html#ultravision Both these games were later re-released (Karate by Froggo, Condor Attack by K-Tel as Vulture Attack). If the aim is to create a timeline, it might be worth noting re-releases. For example: BMX Airmaster (released 19XX, re-released by Atari 19XX), Quest for Quintana Roo (released 19XX, re-released by Telegames 19XX), etc. Something to consider anyway. Speaking of K-Tel, I forgot that Xonox was a division of K-Tel Software. As we get the month/year info for the re-releases, it wouldn't hurt to add them next to the originals like you mentioned. If we get enough month/year info for significant re-releases, maybe I could add a special section at the end of the list for them. In other words, they'd be listed next to the originals, but also listed separately to make them easier to find (for people who care about re-releases). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymailman Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I think for NTSC the three unique titles for Zellers were the following. I think the rest of their stuff is either a hack or straight up copy. Challenge Inca Gold Time Warp Other NTSC titles (but not sure of original company and/or title that released them in NTSC format) are: Mission 3000 AD Squirrel Mr. Postman Bobby is Going Home 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KaeruYojimbo Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Inca Gold and Spider Maze by K-Tel are the same game. There's a lot of really fuzzy area with these NTSC releases of PAL games. The Panda and Zimag games are all conversions of PAL games and there's at least one duplicate (Zimag's Tanks But No Tanks is the same as Panda's Tank Brigade). Finding out which is the "original" NTSC release could be tricky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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