Zerosquare Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Analog controllers for the Jaguar are hard-to-find, and there's only one game (Battlesphere) that support them. I wouldn't bother. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 No, it's more complicated than that. The ADC chip is only present in NTSC Jags, and only on early K models (most K models don't have it, and none of the M models do). That's what it was, I was remembering something about M models, but those are the ones without. It's a shame since all the STe/Falcons have the hardware support for analog controllers, from what I understand. Kind of makes me wonder if it was one of the key things they removed when they lowered the price, since I think it originally sold for 250, then they lowered it to 150, then 100... then well you could find them for peanuts. Now they're 300+ ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummy Bear Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I doubt the ADC chip was worth $100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkoVitch Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 No, it's more complicated than that. The ADC chip is only present in NTSC Jags, and only on early K models (most K models don't have it, and none of the M models do). All these years in, and still learning stuff My bad, I just have an overly optimistic view of the Jaguar still it seems never as simple as you'd hope 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummy Bear Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 64th page! It must be a good omen! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amerika Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 As far as making an 7800 flash cart goes, count me all in. I just got done with my audio/svideo mod a few months ago and I recently even made a remote for my 7800 to press all of the buttons on the console from my couch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I doubt the ADC chip was worth $100 Ha, not saying it was. Was more suggesting they'd found other cost cutting things they could do so they wouldn't sell the console at as big of a loss. Historically the consoles themselves are always sold at a loss, they make that back by selling games and licensing, etc. Not sure at what point in the game industry that started, but it's been the case for quite a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummy Bear Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I believe that started with the Dreamcast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) Ha, not saying it was. Was more suggesting they'd found other cost cutting things they could do so they wouldn't sell the console at as big of a loss. Historically the consoles themselves are always sold at a loss, they make that back by selling games and licensing, etc. Not sure at what point in the game industry that started, but it's been the case for quite a while. They should have dropped the RF modulator too for cutting cost. Edited November 19, 2018 by walter_J64bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I doubt the ADC chip was worth $100 Not $100 but maybe $20, which is much. Back then ADC chips were't cheap. Plus you had to spend 20s more for pick'n'place, plus you need to test and you have to have it in storage ... All this adds up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 They should have dropped the RF modulator too for cutting cost.They did on French models. For other countries, they couldn't, because some TV sets with only RF inputs were still being used at the time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxpro Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 As far as making an 7800 flash cart goes, count me all in. I just got done with my audio/svideo mod a few months ago and I recently even made a remote for my 7800 to press all of the buttons on the console from my couch. You should also post that in the 7800 Forum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I was one of the first group of people who bought the jag so my serial number starts with a "K". I guess that makes sense that it would ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) While we're on the subject this is what happens when you combine an Atari Jaguar, an Opal Rotary Controller, and an Atari 5200 controller together... You get the Atari Jaguar Tempest 2000 Opal Rotary 5200 Controller... Edited November 22, 2018 by Tempest Nut 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) While we're on the subject this is what happens when you combine an Atari Jaguar, an Opal Rotary Controller, and an Atari 5200 controller together... You get the Atari Jaguar Tempest 2000 Opal Rotary 5200 Controller... I thought I owned a bunch of Rotary controllers, but this one takes the cake! I always liked the Genesis Rotary, seems like a natural fit with A, B, C buttons. Edited November 22, 2018 by Machine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) I was one of the first group of people who bought the jag so my serial number starts with a "K". I guess that makes sense that it would ? Me too. Mine contains the ADC. K13C006280, what ever the serial number means Edit: Looked it up: Build by IBM in December, 1993 Edited November 22, 2018 by 42bs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jericho_21 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I own a K and an M Model Jaguar. I have both models. I guess I am lucky in that way. So, one has it and the other does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I doubt it depends on the manufacturer (M = JVC, K = IBM) but rather on the production date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummy Bear Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 the Atari Jaguar Tempest 2000 Opal Rotary 5200 Controller... Beautiful! It just rolls off the tongue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Beautiful! It just rolls off the tongue Ya it is a bit of a mouth full... :^) Me too. Mine contains the ADC. K13C006280, what ever the serial number means Edit: Looked it up: Build by IBM in December, 1993 Mine is K143009846... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I doubt it depends on the manufacturer (M = JVC, K = IBM) but rather on the production date. Has it ever been established when they stopped putting the ADC in? Pretty sure mine doesn't have it (based on getting it when it dropped to 150 and at the same time the JagCD launched). Mine certainly would be a JVC one then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+madman Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Has it ever been established when they stopped putting the ADC in? Probably the same reason they didn't put a 5 cent diode in to prevent the console from frying due to the incorrect polarity. And no flaps over the cart connector. And bare PCB edge connectors hanging out the back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxpro Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 While we're on the subject this is what happens when you combine an Atari Jaguar, an Opal Rotary Controller, and an Atari 5200 controller together... You get the Atari Jaguar Tempest 2000 Opal Rotary 5200 Controller... Does that actually work??? Did you assign Jag Fire Buttons 1-3 on 3 of the 4 5200 fire buttons? What did you do with the Flex Circuit? Did you add the gold dots to it or did you replace it with a thin PCB? Inquiring minds wanna know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Nut Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) Yes the two fire button on the left side is fire on the bottom and super zapper on the top with the jump button on the bottom right side to use Tempest 2000 controls, Also the start and pause buttons work as well. What I did is buy an Opal Rotary Controller and disassembled it and removed the rotary part and the pcb part with the jag connector... Then I disassembled the 5200 and found that the cable could unplug from the Flex Circuit... Then to fig out what wire was what I went online a downloaded schematics of everything... Then with some trial and error and most of the jags controller PCB cut off I connected the cut off wires from the 5200 to the jags controller PCB and stuffed it all in the 5200 controller body. For the rotary part, I just removed all the joystick parts from the 5200 controller and cut down the translucent part of the Opal Rotary to fit where the joystick once was and JB Welded it in place and that's about it. It's basically an Opal Rotary Controller stuffed into an Atari 5200 controller shell, It's even still RGB lit ! BTW nice touch with the Opal Rotary Controllers and the RGB, I don't know what I like more, Playing a game with it or just staring at the RGB light ! lol No matter what I did with that controller I was going to retain that RGB backlight and I did ! Edited November 23, 2018 by Tempest Nut 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 You're a sick man, but the good kind of sickness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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