Ely Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 OK, attaching an .ATR Boot this, and run "D:SOPHIA.TUR". It clears the screen, puts CHR$(0) on screen, then puts color pattern %1000 over the whole screen. It then puts PM0 on top and checks the collision register. On my stock Atari it returns "SOPHIA NOT FOUND." ... someone with a Sophia, please run this and tell me if it detects your hardware. Just tried this out and it did not detect the Sophia board in my PAL 800XL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilralphie Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Thank you Marcin but I think it's not the latest version. A bug was discovered and fixed eventually. I would also be interested in a link. Simius is v1.2 what we should use? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Just tried this out and it did not detect the Sophia board in my PAL 800XL. Yes. That color which is being produced by using %1000 in Antic 4 Graphics 10 is not a PF color. I have another idea I will try tonight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) On the 1088XEL there is a DIN-13 jack provided for passing thru the Sophia component video and the dual Pokey stereo audio. Nice but the problem was trying to fit 5 coaxial cables into such a small plug. So I started searching and came across a combination component video/audio cable that had a remarkably small diameter. Mediabridge Component Video Cables with Audio (6 Feet) So I bought a couple, and when they arrived I chopped off the RCA's on one side and soldered it into a DIN-13 plug, finishing up with a little heat shrink and here is the result. Works great, and it's real slick to be able to do a singular plug on one end that fans out into all those RCA connectors (and the video is great as well ). EDIT: similar cable would work well for Sophia's stock DB-9 connection. - Michael Edited May 31, 2017 by mytekcontrols 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 OK, give this a try. Changes: The PM0 is now at the edge of the screen, the program now puts up color pattern #1010 (PF1 - Green) on screen. This detection relies on the Graphics 10 shift. Stock Atari shifts it one color clock right, but Sophia leaves it unshifted. So in theory, the collision register will not be tripped on a stock Atari, but should be tripped on a Sophia-equipped Atari. Someone try this out please? sophia.atr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 OK, give this a try. Changes: The PM0 is now at the edge of the screen, the program now puts up color pattern #1010 (PF1 - Green) on screen. This detection relies on the Graphics 10 shift. Stock Atari shifts it one color clock right, but Sophia leaves it unshifted. So in theory, the collision register will not be tripped on a stock Atari, but should be tripped on a Sophia-equipped Atari. Someone try this out please? I have a Sophia with the last firmware update installed. So I ran SOPHIA.TUR and after it displays a bunch of small multi-colored blocks, and then does a top to bottom repaint in green I get the SOPHIA NOT DETECTED message and the program ends. - Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutterminder Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 If you're going to produce both versions of the Sophia, I would rather have the DVI version. This should be rather easy to hook up to and HDMI port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Z Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 OK, give this a try. Changes: The PM0 is now at the edge of the screen, the program now puts up color pattern #1010 (PF1 - Green) on screen. This detection relies on the Graphics 10 shift. Stock Atari shifts it one color clock right, but Sophia leaves it unshifted. So in theory, the collision register will not be tripped on a stock Atari, but should be tripped on a Sophia-equipped Atari. Someone try this out please? I think you're misunderstanding the issue. Sophia cannot be read, only the original GTIA can be read. Sophia only 'snoops' for GTIA writes and uses them to reproduce only the video output picture. The original GTIA is what performs the collision detection still, and responds to all other register reads, as I understand it. You can't possibly detect Sophia if you can't read anything from it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 Core 1.3 Sophia_A_core_1_3.zip Sophia_B_core_1_3.zip 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steddyman Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 What are the changes in 1.3 please Simius? Also, why do the different revisions require different hardware rather than just different cables and bitstreams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Core 1.3 What is this? Description please of what this core brings with it (i.e, features) Thanks, - Michael EDIT: I guess I wasn't the only one that was curious Edited June 2, 2017 by mytekcontrols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilralphie Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Core 1.3 Awesome! Thanks so much Simius! Is there a way to easily tell which one to use? (Sorry for such a simple question) #n00b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I asked Simius the latest firmware because it fixes the problems you can see here: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/258702-new-development-gtia-in-cpld/?p=3754085 http://atariage.com/forums/topic/258702-new-development-gtia-in-cpld/?p=3754117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 What is this? Description please of what this core brings with it (i.e, features) Thanks, - Michael EDIT: I guess I wasn't the only one that was curious http://atariage.com/forums/topic/258702-new-development-gtia-in-cpld/page-23?do=findComment&comment=3754085 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 Awesome! Thanks so much Simius! Is there a way to easily tell which one to use? (Sorry for such a simple question) #n00b Look for the marking of the revision on the board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilralphie Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Look for the marking of the revision on the board. Thank you for the quick reply and for Sophia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Yea, Father's Day is approaching and I'm interested in at least one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 The new firmware is not perfect yet (at least on my computer). Our5oft demo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) The new firmware is not perfect yet (at least on my computer). Atari800 (contrary to Altirra) has the same problem here. Have you checked vs. an unmodified machine? Edit: Just out of curiosity, could you please take some pictures of these images http://atariage.com/forums/topic/231181-move-along-folks-nothing-to-see-here/page-2?do=findComment&comment=3138041with "Sophia" () and post them? Edited June 3, 2017 by Irgendwer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Atari800 (contrary to Altirra) has the same problem here. Have you checked vs. an unmodified machine? Tested. Real hardware is lke Altirra. So I think Sophia firmware should be fixed. I will post photos of your images. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) ... (there a second demo with a depiction of a trainer on a tv-screen using this mode, but I've forgot the name) ... Finally found it: http://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=5798 Edit: Depiction from fandal.cz seems to be wrong!? Here some emulation results: Altirra: atari800: atari++ Edited June 3, 2017 by Irgendwer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted June 3, 2017 Author Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) The new firmware is not perfect yet (at least on my computer). And maybe it will never be. You can not expect any trick and any artifact will be perfectly reproduced. Edited June 3, 2017 by Simius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Simius please let awesome Sophia board reproduce real hardware (Atari800WinPLus is an emulator not updated for years). If possible! Thank you! Christian, your beautiful pictures with Sophia: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Christian, your beautiful pictures with Sophia: ... Thank you very much for the effort. The missing pixel shift is obvious, but they look more consistent than I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Thank you very much for the effort. The missing pixel shift is obvious, but they look more consistent than I thought. Can you please explain what is the missing pixel shift? Perhaps a picture will help me understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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