iesposta Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 I think so. There is no need to open a new thread. The price is PLN260/pc + PLN50 shipping. 7 pcs I can dispatch immediately, the next can be within a 4-6 week. I would like to order one, shipped to USA. Please contact me. Thank you! Michael 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KlasO Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I’m interested in two rev c boards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirby76 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I’m also interested in two rev c boards please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ZuluGula Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Do you have a list of monitors that has been tested with Rev. C board and work well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 Current list (NTSC/PAL): Dell U2412M: +/- Dell U2913WM: +/+Dell U2713HM: -/-Dell U3014: +/+LG 24MP47HQ: +/- LG E2242T: +/-LG E2441V: +/- LG W2600H: +/+HP LP2465: +/+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I'm getting an 800XL (coming Friday by mail). I have a Sony PVM with RGB SCART. Whatever I need to make them work together I will buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhawk668 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) I would like to order a Sophia RGB board too. Needs to be shipped to the Netherlands. Could you let me know if its still possible? Edited November 4, 2017 by redhawk668 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I would like to order one Sophia. Needs also to be shipped to The Netherlands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Has anyone fitted one to a 400? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillC Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) Has anyone fitted one to a 400? It would be very difficult since there's not enough room under the RF shield for it to plug into the socket on the CPU board. It has been done on the 800, using a ribbon cable to the RAM card bay in an Incognito upgraded machine. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/258702-new-development-gtia-in-cpld/?view=findpost&p=3804838 It might be possible to do similar on the 400, though it could require locating the Sophia outside the RF shield. Edited November 7, 2017 by BillC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I have a DELL 2007FPB monitor hooked up to a Sophia RevC DVI board (no it doesn't look like the picture below, but wouldn't that be nice ). Here you go , This is being driven by a 1088XEL setup as a PAL system. It looks fantastic, but I have noticed some glitching when running the Near Demo (attached). So far it is the only one that appears to have a problem, but I have a lot more stuff to look at. Also be nice if the over scan area was eliminated, but I'm not sure if that's even possible. Picture sure looks pretty. Great job Simius . - Michael Near.xex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Here's a Sophia RevC DVI test video showing the glitching I saw yesterday, which appears to be horizontal tearing as if something with HSYNC is on edge. It doesn't occur in everything, and in fact some demos such as Boogie Nights works flawlessly. I also show a couple of examples of over scan noise seen on the extreme edges of the screen. This is likely quite normal, and is not something that would have even been visible on an older TV. However if at all possible, it would be nice to have this eliminated from what is seen via DVI on a more modern LCD. In the 1088XEL using the V-Gate chip, I eliminate the over scan from the Composite and S-Video outputs, unfortunately it can not do this for the Sophia. Perhaps this can be done inside the CPLD instead. Now as for the horizontal tearing, I can't say for sure whether this is directly attributable to my DELL monitor, or as a result of something not quite right with the Sophia (Edit: Simius can you confirm this?). Could even be a PAL vs NTSC thing, although unfortunately the demos that caused problems while in PAL, do not work properly on an NTSC system so it is difficult to know. And although I'm seeing a couple issues, the display from this board is spectacular!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eSB2kub5Gc - Michael C-Drug.xex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 Try another monitor. I haven't such effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozar Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Did I miss something about Sophia outputting DVI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Did I miss something about Sophia outputting DVI? http://atariage.com/forums/topic/258702-new-development-gtia-in-cpld/?view=findpost&p=3772384 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Try another monitor. I haven't such effect. So far I've tested on two entirely different monitors and I'm still seeing the exact same effect. What I find most interesting is that only certain applications cause this to happen. I would think if the monitor wasn't compatible, that everything would be messed up, but that isn't the case. In fact it looks absolutely stable other than a few demos that reveal the horizontal tearing problem, which is quite consistent in nature. Just for grins I'm going to test with a new DVI cable today, just to rule that out. Also tried this with both of my Sophia RevC boards, as well as swapped ribbon cables and the DVI connector boards that they came with, but the results remained the same. I also plan to try it in an 800XL just to rule out the 1088XEL as being the problem. I'm not familiar with how DVI really works, but is there a possibility that this is a timing issue that is so close to the edge that particular video modes and or tricks cause it to temporarily go out of range? Some monitors might be more tolerant, but perhaps if this is the case a slight adjustment in timing might make this more universally accepted. Just a thought . Edit: Simius please keep in mind that I have the means to reprogram the chip in the Sophia and would be more than willing to run some tests on my end for you. - Michael 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozar Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 This is the Sophia Rev.C board with the DVI output. So what do I do with the RevA boards? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 So what do I do with the RevA boards? :-) Send one here to go in my 1088XEL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 And I'll take the other one if you have more than one . - Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) So far I've tested on two entirely different monitors and I'm still seeing the exact same effect. What I find most interesting is that only certain applications cause this to happen. I would think if the monitor wasn't compatible, that everything would be messed up, but that isn't the case. In fact it looks absolutely stable other than a few demos that reveal the horizontal tearing problem, which is quite consistent in nature. Just for grins I'm going to test with a new DVI cable today, just to rule that out. Also tried this with both of my Sophia RevC boards, as well as swapped ribbon cables and the DVI connector boards that they came with, but the results remained the same. I also plan to try it in an 800XL just to rule out the 1088XEL as being the problem. I'm not familiar with how DVI really works, but is there a possibility that this is a timing issue that is so close to the edge that particular video modes and or tricks cause it to temporarily go out of range? Some monitors might be more tolerant, but perhaps if this is the case a slight adjustment in timing might make this more universally accepted. Just a thought . Edit: Simius please keep in mind that I have the means to reprogram the chip in the Sophia and would be more than willing to run some tests on my end for you. - Michael I'm testing currently on two monitors: HP LP2465 and Medion MD30293. No probem on both. This issue looks like H-sync disturbances and it is very strange, because any sync problem on the DVI link results in an immediate lack of image. Has any of your monitors the aspect ratio of 16:10? For that DELL the Sophia board should be set rather on the 1280x960 resolution. I think I can prepare such core. Not at once, but some time. Edited November 9, 2017 by Simius 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I'm testing currently on two monitors: HP LP2465 and Medion MD30293. No probem on both. This issue looks like H-sync disturbances and it is very strange, because any sync problem on the DVI link results in an immediate lack of image. Has any of your monitors the aspect ratio of 16:10? For that DELL the Sophia board should be set rather on the 1280x960 resolution. I think I can prepare such core. Not at once, but some time. Hi Simius, I'm in 4:3 mode on the DELL, but I did test in 16:9 aspect ratio on a Viewsonic widescreen monitor getting similar issues. So to make this a bit easier to see and to reveal it's constant nature I found this program: SCR_TEST.ATR And choose COLCHARTCOM 017 from the menu. And here is what I see on a PAL machine (1088XEL). Two pairs of skewed lines, And here it is with an NTSC macjine (stock XEGS). One pair of skewed lines. I also saw the same thing in the 1088XEL when I switched it over to NTSC. I would be quite willing to test that new core when you get a chance to do it (thanks ). - Michael 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 I'll try to clarify this issue. So far I have not achieved such effect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 What's the process for order? Probably get the wife to get me one for Xmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mytek Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Simius here's the frequency/resolution specs on the Dell 2007FP that I am using... - Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 What's the process for order? Probably get the wife to get me one for Xmas. PM is enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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