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#1 ivop ONLINE  

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Posted Wed Apr 5, 2017 1:48 PM

Hi,

 

Years ago, I created a MOD player for the Atari 8-bit (https://demozoo.org/...uctions/145663/). Considering my age and overall knowledge at the time, it wasn't bad. But, now that I'm more than twice as old (and wiser ;) ) I think I can do a lot better. So, I was wondering, what is currently considered the best MOD player and at what frequency does it play the samples? What's the state-of-the-art player to beat? :)

 

Thanks!

Ivo

 



#2 CharlieChaplin ONLINE  

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Posted Wed Apr 5, 2017 2:13 PM

Hmmm,

 

there is Inertia 4.5 by MadTeam which has Pokey (4Bit, mono or stereo) and Covox (8Bit mono or stereo) playback; no clue at what range/frequency. There is also ProTracker 1.5 by MadTeam with Pokey and Covox playback with approx. 10khz. And there is Neotracker which has 4Bit Pokey (mono or stereo) and 8bit Covox (mono or stereo) playback at approx. 11.0khz or 11.5khz.

 

No need to mention the older MD8 (conv. MOD) players, I guess. But if so, the mono (Pokey) player Fampy 6.1 sounded the best in my eyes.



#3 ivop ONLINE  

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Posted Thu Apr 6, 2017 5:19 AM

Thanks! 11kHz is quite a feat already. Don't think there's much improvement possible there :) Even if one could get to 12 or 13 kHz, the difference would be negligible.



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Posted Thu Apr 6, 2017 7:03 AM

I repeat myself each time when this subject surfaces, but these players could sound much better if samples are converted with good anti-aliasing. All the players listed above treat 8-bit samples the same way by just cutting the least significant bits and it sux.



#5 CharlieChaplin ONLINE  

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Posted Thu Apr 6, 2017 1:33 PM

MadTeam (Inertia & Protracker): http://madteam.atari...php?prod=uzytki

Click on the screenshots to download the software.

 

Attached some Neotracker versions here, since Epi does not host it any longer it seems (he supports Enotracker instead). Afair, one version of Neotracker worked better with Lotharek`s simple stereo (or stereo final), while another version worked better with Candle`s simple stereo...

 

 

 

 

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#6 _The Doctor__ ONLINE  

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Posted Thu Apr 6, 2017 2:56 PM

Thanks! 11kHz is quite a feat already. Don't think there's much improvement possible there :) Even if one could get to 12 or 13 kHz, the difference would be negligible.

where's the fun in that? I don't find it negligible at all !!! to my ears that could be a world of difference...



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Posted Fri Apr 7, 2017 4:29 AM

MOD Neo Tracker trick (that is why it is faster than Inertia)

 

Load the sample at the end of the bank (..$7FFF)

 

inc sample_adres
bne skp
inc sample_adres+1
bpl skp
 
lda #0
sample_start_l equ *-1
sta sample_adres
 
lda #0
sample_start_h equ *-1
sta sample_adres+1
 
skp


#8 pajero_pn OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 8, 2017 2:58 AM

ATR  =  mod file and NEO tracker

 

http://ftp.pigwa.net...ft_and_MODs.zip



#9 MEtalGuy66 OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 8, 2017 10:57 AM

Make one the makes good use of 65816, contiguous ram, etc. 

 

The target should be a mod player than can correctly load and play any protracker mod that a real AMIGA with 2megs chipram is capable of playing. 


Edited by MEtalGuy66, Sat Apr 8, 2017 10:59 AM.


#10 tebe OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 8, 2017 11:06 AM

Make one the makes good use of 65816, contiguous ram, etc. 

 

The target should be a mod player than can correctly load and play any protracker mod that a real AMIGA with 2megs chipram is capable of playing. 

 

yeah :)

 

Inertia, ProTracker (Profi), NeoTracker support limited number of MOD effects






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