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#1 noclafirata OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri May 12, 2017 6:29 PM

Does anyone know where to find Shoot em up construction kit
that works with an STE I Have the one sold by outlaw,
but it crashes on my STE, so I was looking for the GBH Gold edition.

#2 noclafirata OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Jul 6, 2017 6:38 PM

anyone? I ordered the only copy that I have see from
retro games in the U.K. but apparently it got lost in the mail.
It's been over 2 months.

#3 galax OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jul 9, 2017 4:44 PM

Have you tried the version on Automation CD 242? ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/atari/games/Automation/A_242.ST

 

There are also 3 versions in TOSEC (search in the page for "Shoot'Em Up Construction Kit") http://ia801904.us.a..._2012_04_23.zip

 

You could try those on an emulator first to see if they work and then transfer them to disk if they do.



#4 noclafirata OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:00 PM

I just had a chance to look at those, Thank you for the links.
Unfortunately they are all the 1989 st version by outlaw.
The GBH Gold version seems very difficult to find.
Eventually one will show up.

#5 VolcanoBytes OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:40 AM

Hi everybody!
 
I have an original and functioning S.E.U.C.K from GBH
 
It would be a pleasure to preserve it and share it so that the community can use it, but I would need help or instructions on how to do it.
 
On the other hand, I would love to collaborate on a game made with this tool for Atari St, so if someone wants to team up, I would be happy to work on it. 
 
I have some experience as a game designer and pixel artist, so it would be great to find a programmer to make a game together.
 
Regards!


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Posted Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:50 AM

 

Hi everybody!
 
I have an original and functioning S.E.U.C.K from GBH
 
It would be a pleasure to preserve it and share it so that the community can use it, but I would need help or instructions on how to do it.
 
On the other hand, I would love to collaborate on a game made with this tool for Atari St, so if someone wants to team up, I would be happy to work on it. 
 
I have some experience as a game designer and pixel artist, so it would be great to find a programmer to make a game together.
 
Regards!

 

To preserve it you need as best solution:  working Atari with good floppy drive. Then can make Pasti STX images - important if there is copy protection.

So, first tell us what you have at hand:  what Atari, what floppy drive, is there some hard disk attached ? Do you have PC with internal floppy drive ?



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Posted Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:56 AM

I have an Atari 1040STe with working floppy drive, but I don't know the floppy drive model.
 
There's no hard disk attached and I don't have my PC with internal floppy here, although maybe I can get one. I'm out of my place during this year and I didn't bring my old PC with me.

 



#8 noclafirata OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jul 8, 2018 4:41 PM

If you can get a hold of a pc with a floppy drive, just copy it to the pc, zip it and post it here. It is not copy protected at least the outlaw version is not.

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Posted Mon Jul 9, 2018 1:27 AM

If you can get a hold of a pc with a floppy drive, just copy it to the pc, zip it and post it here. It is not copy protected at least the outlaw version is not.

Would it work with an external floppy in a computer running windows 10?



#10 noclafirata OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jul 9, 2018 8:24 AM

It should work with external floppy, not sure about windows 10 though never used it.

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Posted Mon Jul 9, 2018 11:26 PM

 

I have an Atari 1040STe with working floppy drive...I'm out of my place during this year and I didn't bring my old PC with me.

 

Brought the Atari.  Left the PC.  True-blood.



#12 VolcanoBytes OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:14 AM

 

Brought the Atari.  Left the PC.  True-blood.

:grin:  :grin:  :grin:  I brought my laptop with windows 10 too, but unfortunately it doesn't work with the external floppy... it can't read 720kb disks.



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Posted Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:32 AM

:grin:  :grin:  :grin:  I brought my laptop with windows 10 too, but unfortunately it doesn't work with the external floppy... it can't read 720kb disks.

 

Are you sure?  I have a little USB external floppy and Windows won't FORMAT a 720K disk, but if I format it on my Atari, the USB drive will READ and WRITE to it just fine.  Make sure you give that a shot.



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Posted Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:24 AM

 

Are you sure?  I have a little USB external floppy and Windows won't FORMAT a 720K disk, but if I format it on my Atari, the USB drive will READ and WRITE to it just fine.  Make sure you give that a shot.

I've tried it with several of my original discs and I only get this error back.

https://imgur.com/a/UMI2qot



#15 noclafirata OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:11 AM

Does it work with 1.44mb disks.

#16 VolcanoBytes OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:49 PM

Does it work with 1.44mb disks.

Yes, but it does not work with any of my Atari discs.



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Posted Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:38 AM

This is approx. 1000th time that I read same talk related with Atari floppy preservation.  The key problem here is how to transfer Atari SW floppy images to Internet - which btw. must be not 720KB format. 800KB was more used, for instance. USB external floppy solutions are just limited, made for usual formats used with PCs. Some can handle only 1.44 MB disks,

First step: determine exact format of floppies:  use Desktop Disk Info for that .

Making images on Atari self: if not copy protected probably not necessary - may be enough to just copy files, keeping track on which floppy what files are.

Transfer to PC is possible with PARCP - parallel cable . Of course, today parallel port on PC is problem, but there is solution with USB on PC side. In any case, it needs some investment.

What is free is to find some PC with internal drive and use this SW:  http://atari.8bitchip.info/floimgd.php

 

Just to add that there must be lot if it around, most probably not used anymore.  For instance, I have in my home 3 fixed little older PCs - with 2,6 GHz P4, 1.8 GHz Semprons (approx same speed), 1GB RAM, which run well Win 7. Good for Internet too .  I can not sell them - nobody wants those slow single core machines, while I asking less than what hard disks self in them cost  by resellers. (20 Euros) . So, I will rather keep them instead to give for free - as some reseller expects. They can be of use in some situations. Like floppy imaging - all 3 have internal floppy port, and there are parallel and serial ports too.

I can ship one of them to US if someone willing to pay shipping costs :-D


Edited by ParanoidLittleMan, Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:40 AM.


#18 noclafirata OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:55 AM

Try formatting a disk on the atari and then try it in the pc. I just tried an original atari game disk on my pc and it would not read it, but I formatted a blank disk on the atari and the pc can read it.

#19 noclafirata OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:09 AM

My usb floppy is a Teac FD-05PUW. If you need I could send it to you I don't use it I have a gigafile and ultrasatan to transfer files to and from pc.

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Posted Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:19 PM

Like ParanoidLittleMan wrote, I think USB floppy drives may not work with FloImg software to copy your disk (if the disk format is not standard).

To format the disk in 720kb in Windows 7 and up you need to use the CMD: format a: /f:720 or format a: /t:80 /n:9

I'm not sure which Windows version removed the ability to format 720kb disks from GUI, may work from command line.






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