Carl Mueller Jr Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Hi all, The D2K Special Edition ROM is now available. Here are the instructions for obtaining the ROM: 1. Send a $20 donation to cmjrd2k@gmail.com. 2. Send me an email to carljr17@hotmail.com letting me know you've made the donation. Also let me know what nickname or other you would like to appear in the in game credits (18 characters max). 3. I will reply with the ROM as an attachment. You'll of course get all materials, digitally (instructions, overlays, etc.) as well. As usual, I ask you to not distribute the ROM. Your name will be encoded in the ROM, after all. If anyone attempts to hack the ROM the game will be distorted and unplayable. Just a fair warning. Thanks again, Carl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeguychicago Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 What is the difference between this ROM and the previously-available D2K ROM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Mueller Jr Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 What is the difference between this ROM and the previously-available D2K ROM? The special edition has two new boards, making for a complete version of the arcade ROM hack Jumpman Returns. It also has the original "Intellivision" version, a new intro, and a new "how high can you get screen". It also had the ability to save two high scores, but that has been removed for compatibility with emulators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Carl, stop selling the Rom now or I will give it away for free to everyone. We have not broken even on costs yet even though you were paid and paid well. This is not good relations Carl. Edited May 16, 2017 by SoulBuster 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Is there a place to purchase the rom officially? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Is there a place to purchase the rom officially? http://atariage.com/forums/topic/265623-d2k-arcade-special-edition-rom-now-available/?do=findComment&comment=3762809 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Don't Pay for the ROM. Carl made an agreement with us so we can sell the physical copies. He jumped the gun on ROM sales. If he does not post in this thread that ROM sales has ended, then tonight the ROM will be posted for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intymike Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Guys, please don't do that in public. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Mueller Jr Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 Guys, please don't do that in public. I have private messaged Tim, but so far have been ignored. ROM "sales" will continue. Even if the ROM is posted, it won't work under emulators. In addition, if people don't support my work through donations, I will not likely be very motivated to continue with current projects.. I am working on two projects right now that should be very exciting to all Intellivision enthusiasts. I had several more planned for the future, as well. But without support, I will not realistically be able to continue. Thanks to everyone for your understanding and past support. And peace! Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Not Ignored, I do have to sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) The age old question: Do ROM sales eat into physical boxed game sales? Or..... Do physical boxed game sales eat into ROM sales? :-) (Speaking specifically of Intellivision fans/collectors) I personally have every boxed released version of DK, D2K, etc. In addition to purchasing the ROMs. What about anyone else? Edited May 16, 2017 by Rev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Rom sales seem to eat into boxed sales only slightly. 10% 20% a small amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Teams Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 What Rev said. I already bought all the CIBs (including the SE) and now getting the ROM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I purchased both, part because my D2K Special Edition is wrapped still, the ROM will be great on my LTO Flash. and I want to support Carl with future projects to insure they are released! Best to all, Wolfy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric7100 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I am just curious, but is a "required donation" a legitimate concept? Doesn't requiring a donation "eat away" at the very definition of a donation in the first place? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 The required donation you are inquiring about is to make future projects possible. That is my understanding anyway, and that is your call on how to proceed from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric7100 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I understand what it's for, but it's not really a donation, then, is it? Donations are supposed to be voluntary. If it's a mandatory cost, then it's a sale. Why not call it what it is? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Mueller Jr Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 The age old question: Do ROM sales eat into physical boxed game sales? Or..... Do physical boxed game sales eat into ROM sales? :-) (Speaking specifically of Intellivision fans/collectors) I personally have every boxed released version of DK, D2K, etc. In addition to purchasing the ROMs. What about anyone else? I would encourage everyone who has bought the ROM to state the reasons for doing so. (Because you only play games under emulation; you've bought the physical copy but also would like to play the game under emulation: you have a flash cart and never buy complete-in-box anyway, etc.) This might help to convince Tim that ROM sales are not going to eat into his complete-in-box sales in any way, especially after a year of exclusive complete in box sales only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Good call, I have no counter for that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Well, he did have a year to sell the complete in box copies, at some point those sales dry up. Then the ROM becomes the next best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I will only share my own personal experience in selling games. I know ZERO about anyone else's behind the scenes selling/publishing. After about a month to 6 weeks of selling a new release, sales of said game are maybe 1 or 2 a month....if that. That's including ebay sales. In my own experience, once the initial sales rush is over, its very slow going. That is all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 On another note, Carl thank you for making great games for the Intellivision! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I would encourage everyone who has bought the ROM to state the reasons for doing so. (Because you only play games under emulation; you've bought the physical copy but also would like to play the game under emulation: you have a flash cart and never buy complete-in-box anyway, etc.) This might help to convince Tim that ROM sales are not going to eat into his complete-in-box sales in any way, especially after a year of exclusive complete in box sales only. I bought multiple CIB for all versions and I'd like the ROM for playing as well as to support you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980gamer Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I can only give an outsiders perspective. In the case of D2K SE, $100 for 2 levels. If it was offered as an upgrade some how? That may have increased demand. I get what you were trying to do, I just cannot personally justify the $ for 2 levels. Maybe send cart in for $30 and get the Upgrade and Signed ROM or something like that? I am not in marketing.... I would really like to see ROM included with cart sales, at least as an option. I have picked up the last 3 Cart Boards and Rom's from David H. This works well for me. I can play the roms anytime. I can collect or play on real iron too. Plus I have the rom in hand while I wait for the cart to be delivered. Again, 1 persons opinion is most likely not representative of the "Market". Also, I am a big fan of your work Carl. But I would rather see you just ask for donations or do the dreaded per-release sale. Most people trust you to deliver. Though I don't like what I have read here today. I know things are tough, but a "partner" made an investment in you and the community and he deserves a chance to re-coop. I am guessing that you had some time frame, But he has or had a combo deal going. It was the first time I considered D2K SE, But I already have D2K and TLCOKroz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I know things are tough, but a "partner" made an investment in you and the community and he deserves a chance to re-coop. This exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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