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#51 enoofu ONLINE  

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Posted Sat May 20, 2017 1:30 PM

Considering Chris is using Nintedo Konami and other trademarks to promote Coleco and his other businesses

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#52 GoldLeader ONLINE  

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Posted Sat May 20, 2017 1:50 PM

The new face of Colecotm is Ugly indeed!



#53 enoofu ONLINE  

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Posted Sat May 20, 2017 1:59 PM

Chris Cardillo
- CEO at Castle Windows
Experience
Partner
Coleco / ColecoVision
October 2015 – Present (1 year 8 months)
Originator of the Cabbage Patch Dolls and maker of the ColecoVision
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Did anyone else know that?????


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Posted Sat May 20, 2017 3:16 PM

Yea... I saw that when I looked him up on linked in last night, but I was getting too tired to post; has soccer games to ref this morning, so I forgot about seeing that.



#55 enoofu ONLINE  

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Posted Sat May 20, 2017 3:23 PM

He must of invented the time machine while writing Study Less and Earn A’s Without Effort



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Posted Sat May 20, 2017 7:17 PM

Might be able to get an A without effort, but you can't EARN one that way...

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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 5:44 AM

The issue is that they also filed for the Trademark in the EU

 

I don't think they did. Or if they did, they didn't get a trademark.

 

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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 11:07 AM

 

Chris Cardillo
- CEO at Castle Windows
Experience
Partner
Coleco / ColecoVision
October 2015 – Present (1 year 8 months)
Originator of the Cabbage Patch Dolls and maker of the ColecoVision
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Did anyone else know that?????

 

 

Whoa. Dude needs a big asterisk next to that statement, clarifying that he bought the tatters of the company at an estate sale ... and that he didn't earn any of their achievements. 



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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 11:14 AM

 

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Oh, the irony of that poster hanging up in a place that has a fake Fix-It-Felix Jr. Machine! lol I'm sure whoever did the reproduction side art had Disney's approval right?  ;)



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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 11:49 AM

 

Whoa. Dude needs a big asterisk next to that statement, clarifying that he bought the tatters of the company at an estate sale ... and that he didn't earn any of their achievements. 

I think that even the above example would have more meaning than what he did.

From what I gather it's more of:

"I've heard of Coleco™ before, time for me to reregister whatever USPTO is dumb enough to let slip by, and play it like I 'm the new king of Colecovision™."

 

Somebody let me know if my impression of the above is incorrect--because when I look at my current understanding, it couldn't possibly be correct, right?


Edited by Reaperman, Sun May 21, 2017 11:50 AM.


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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 12:05 PM

Can't everyone just ignore the clown since he doesn't really have all the rights anyways?  Let him say what he wants...

Problem is, Facebook is not ignoring him which has put the fan site (with over 25000 users) at risk. 



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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 12:06 PM

 

Chris Cardillo
- CEO at Castle Windows
Experience
Partner
Coleco / ColecoVision
October 2015 – Present (1 year 8 months)
Originator of the Cabbage Patch Dolls and maker of the ColecoVision
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Did anyone else know that?????

 

 

Is it me or does his LinkedIn page look like a 3 year old made it?



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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 12:27 PM

I like how he's linking to Cabbage Patch Dolls as if they still had anything to do with them (COLECO).

 

It links to the Appalachian Artworks page, which as far as I know is still owned by Xavier Roberts.



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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 1:50 PM

 

Is it me or does his LinkedIn page look like a 3 year old made it?

 

Well, he DOES write and act like a 3-year-old...



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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 1:59 PM

 

Oh, the irony of that poster hanging up in a place that has a fake Fix-It-Felix Jr. Machine! lol I'm sure whoever did the reproduction side art had Disney's approval right?   ;)

 

Disney /did/ actually build/license a few for E3 and the parks... never know. They may have scattered. I haven't seen one in forever. (I don't know the actual history, but I saw them in both places ;) ).



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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 2:05 PM

 

Disney /did/ actually build/license a few for E3 and the parks... never know. They may have scattered. I haven't seen one in forever. (I don't know the actual history, but I saw them in both places ;) ).

 

The King of Kong guy sold one on eBay for $20K:

 

http://www.ebay.com/...8391?rmvSB=true



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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 2:05 PM

 
Disney /did/ actually build/license a few for E3 and the parks... never know. They may have scattered. I haven't seen one in forever. (I don't know the actual history, but I saw them in both places ;) ).

i believe 12 of them were made. I have seen real ones and fake ones that look the same. Can be hard to recognize the difference. I want to build one one of these days.

Edited by pimpmaul69, Sun May 21, 2017 2:08 PM.


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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 2:07 PM

Disney /did/ actually build/license a few for E3 and the parks... never know. They may have scattered. I haven't seen one in forever. (I don't know the actual history, but I saw them in both places ;) ).

 

I can tell it's a knock-off.  The originals have purposely weathered side art, side panels, front coin doors and control panels.  There are 8 of them here at Disney Quest and I have played on them many times and spoken to some of the folks responsible for making the official cabinets.   ;)

Disney Quest Fix It Felix glover.jpg

 

Although when DQ closes in a few weeks there will be some of these scattered around more, but this is how you can tell the originals from the fakes apart.

 

EDIT: For example, the one sold on eBay - it has a purposely faded marquee, scuffs on the control panel and coin door.  The "insert coin" sticker is partially peeled away.  All the "original" machines that were made for Disneyland, Walt Disney World, and E3 along with other promotions had all this weathering done on purpose.  So when you see one in a shop that has a beautifully new blue side panel and a 100% complete piece of side art, that's when you know it's a fake!  

fix it felix.jpg

(Look how the Mario Bros next to it is actually in much better shape, and that Fix It Felix machine is really only 5 years old (maybe 4 depending on what it was used for)



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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 2:11 PM

 
I can tell it's a knock-off.  The originals have purposely weathered side art, side panels, front coin doors and control panels.  There are 8 of them here at Disney Quest and I have played on them many times and spoken to some of the folks responsible for making the official cabinets.   ;)
 
Although when DQ closes in a few weeks there will be some of these scattered around more, but this is how you can tell the originals from the fakes apart.

i personally would want a fake one. I would prefer the game looking minty. Although i would still buy an original if given the opportunity.

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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 2:16 PM

i personally would want a fake one. I would prefer the game looking minty. Although i would still buy an original if given the opportunity.

 

I get what you're saying, but as a huge Disney fan (and ex-cast member) I can appreciate the lengths they went through to make it look like it came from years of use in an 1982 arcade even those machines were only produced in 2012 & 2013.  To me, wanting a clean Fix It Felix would be akin to cleaning all the dust off an Alamagordo Atari Dig cartridge & box, but wouldn't that be the whole point to have it as "authentic" as possible? (Oddly enough my ET cart ended up being super clean! lol)

 

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Enough about this, let's not hijack Eduardo's thread with off-topic Disney stuff!  I was just trying to make an ironic point above.   ;)



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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 2:44 PM

I'm confused: you can't say anything "ColecoVision" without it being some kind of trademark issue?  So how did 3rd party games ever use the name "ColecoVision" in the first place?  (or was there a difference back in the day, as opposed to now?)

 

And who is this dick who now owns the Coleco name?  I want to bring him misery.   ;)

 

PS does this affect the SGM 4th run I just pre-ordered (with the sweet smoky case?)

You are free to use the word "Colecovision" without permission as necessary to describe your product.  If you are selling a Colecovision cartridge or peripheral you have to say what it is on the packaging.  It is not necessary to use the Colecovision logo so it has to say Colecovision in plain text.  The current Coleco company may have trademark rights, trademarks don't have to be registered to be legal.  They do have those Flashback products.  As always consult a lawyer.

 

My concern would be with the Colecovision system bios code and other Colecovision software IP copyrights,  Whoever programs Colecovision today might have copies of that and have knowledge of it.  There's also the code of the Colecovision games like Donkey Kong.  Donkey Kong was licensed from Nintendo but the program code belonged to the old Coleco.  I'd be surprised if this current Coleco company owns the software IP copyrights.  The story was that Hasbro purchased those IP assets back in the 1980s.  Does anyone know who owns the old Colecovision software copyrights?



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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 2:49 PM

https://www.colecoex...e/c2/Games.html

55 US dollars to ship international? WTH?

"The release will mark the first commercial release of a video game cartridge in 15 years."

Wow...so they unaware of the Nintendo DS/2DS/3DS or the Official Boulderdash Intellivision cartridge release from 2015? You can be pedantic all you want about game "cards" vs game "cartridges" but the "in 15 years "statement is outright wrong.

http://www.firststar...boulderdash.htm

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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 2:51 PM

You are free to use the word "Colecovision" without permission as necessary to describe your product.  If you are selling a Colecovision cartridge or peripheral you have to say what it is on the packaging.  It is not necessary to use the Colecovision logo so it has to say Colecovision in plain text.  The current Coleco company may have trademark rights, trademarks don't have to be registered to be legal.  They do have those Flashback products.  As always consult a lawyer.
 
My concern would be with the Colecovision system bios code and other Colecovision software IP copyrights,  Whoever programs Colecovision today might have copies of that and have knowledge of it.  There's also the code of the Colecovision games like Donkey Kong.  Donkey Kong was licensed from Nintendo but the program code belonged to the old Coleco.  I'd be surprised if this current Coleco company owns the software IP copyrights.  The story was that Hasbro purchased those IP assets back in the 1980s.  Does anyone know who owns the old Colecovision software copyrights?

Assuming a dead trademark would not automatically entitle the new registrant to the IP like the BIOS. Copyright and trademark are fortunately separate things.

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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 2:56 PM

From what i understand the old IP probably was all bought by Hasbro but Hasbro did spin off it Software division which is called Atari of today



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Posted Sun May 21, 2017 2:58 PM

Interesting you mention this...back somewhere between 1989 and 1996 when I worked for a newspaper and did video game reviews I had heard this story. I asked the PR person at Hasbro if it was true and she knew nothing about it. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, but she, at least, didn't know anything about it. They may have bought the rights and then never did anything with them or just bought them so no one else would get them thinking they might do something with them at a later date.

 

My concern would be with the Colecovision system bios code and other Colecovision software IP copyrights,  Whoever programs Colecovision today might have copies of that and have knowledge of it.  There's also the code of the Colecovision games like Donkey Kong.  Donkey Kong was licensed from Nintendo but the program code belonged to the old Coleco.  I'd be surprised if this current Coleco company owns the software IP copyrights.  The story was that Hasbro purchased those IP assets back in the 1980s.  Does anyone know who owns the old Colecovision software copyrights?







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