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#476 mr_me OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:21 AM

Most of the work in implementing Adam support is done. All the major components are common processors that have already been implemented in fpga. And unlike rom, tape/disk file access could even be implemented in software emulation rather than fpga because it's not time sensitive. Implementing adamnet hardware support is more work but optional. The biggest issue is it might need more hardware since there might not be enough room in the fpga to implement all the ram/rom Adam has. A memory add-on might be needed. Still, someone has to do the work, implementing Adam, and it may be that nobody has interest in doing it.

Having TI-99/4a support would have been much more difficult; but recently someone implemented the TMS9900 cpu in fpga and now its available to everybody.

Edited by mr_me, Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:26 AM.


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Posted Sat Jun 9, 2018 3:09 PM

For each videogame and computer core that is added to the CollecorVision system, the programmer can charge a $50 fee for the software update. Many people are already paying $50+ for a game cartridge. Just imagine if the CollectorVision system had the option 2-3 years after release date of 12 different 8 bit and 16 bit cores. It means more system sales and more SD game or cartridge game sales.


Edited by HDTV1080P, Sat Jun 9, 2018 3:10 PM.


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Posted Sat Jun 9, 2018 5:08 PM

For each videogame and computer core that is added to the CollecorVision system, the programmer can charge a $50 fee for the software update. Many people are already paying $50+ for a game cartridge. Just imagine if the CollectorVision system had the option 2-3 years after release date of 12 different 8 bit and 16 bit cores. It means more system sales and more SD game or cartridge game sales.

 

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Posted Sat Jun 9, 2018 5:46 PM

Ugh.  So many posts, not enough listening.

 

Making a system like this isn't a bag of parts that you throw together and get a computer out of, you have to figure out how to make them work together.  And be compatible with as much software as possible.  Not easy, even with a software base as small as the ADAM's is.

 

I'm excited for the Collectorvision console.  But don't expect it to give you backrubs and drive your car for you.  Geez.



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Posted Sat Jun 9, 2018 9:24 PM

I don't understand why certain people insist on trying to up the price of this machine for stuff the majority of people could care less about. I just want something that plays ColecoVision games. MSX would be a bonus. I'm not going to pay $50 a pop to add more machines.

 

For each videogame and computer core that is added to the CollecorVision system, the programmer can charge a $50 fee for the software update. Many people are already paying $50+ for a game cartridge. Just imagine if the CollectorVision system had the option 2-3 years after release date of 12 different 8 bit and 16 bit cores. It means more system sales and more SD game or cartridge game sales.



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Posted Sat Jun 9, 2018 9:30 PM

I don't understand why certain people insist on trying to up the price of this machine for stuff the majority of people could care less about. I just want something that plays ColecoVision games. MSX would be a bonus. I'm not going to pay $50 a pop to add more machines.

 

Then certain people can offer free games and cores for the CollectorVision system instead of charging a fee for things. But then again certain programmers do not want to work for free and would like to charge $20 or more for their hard work. 



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Posted Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:27 AM

Whether there is a market to buy a-la-carte cores or bundles-of is still not understood, when it is all said and done unless the system also offer SD-load of ROMs it gets complex due to having to support all sorts of pad connectors and cart slots. So the cost of the core would have to go against cost of adapters as well.

Being this system open-source may allow someone to develop cores for it but unless the feature (core reload) is already baked in and opened up to third parties it may just not work.

If SD ROM loading is enabled then it's a different scenario BUT at that point it is pretty obvious that it configures itself as a device that indeed circumvents copy protection mechanisms and that is a whole different can of worms .... so only a JB firmware should allow that, projects like mist/mistER get away with it because they are not backed by commercial ventures (mistER even requires to buy a devboard which comes with ES [as in Engineering Samples] version of the FPGA -> not for commercial usages).

 

We'll see what CollectorVision will choose to do, it's their system and they should be able to do with it how they please and being a commercial venture in a way that does not land them in any legal trouble.



#483 mr_me OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:11 AM

Ugh.  So many posts, not enough listening.
 
Making a system like this isn't a bag of parts that you throw together and get a computer out of, you have to figure out how to make them work together.  And be compatible with as much software as possible.  Not easy, even with a software base as small as the ADAM's is.
 
I'm excited for the Collectorvision console.  But don't expect it to give you backrubs and drive your car for you.  Geez.

Yes but implementing the connecting circuits in fpga is much, much less work than creating a microprocessor in fpga; and the microprocessors are done.

Also realise fpga work is much different than software programming and people with fpga skills/experience are less common. On top of that people interested in the Adam computer are far fewer than those interested in coleco vision. So someone skilled/experienced in fpga, has interest in the Adam computer, and has free time to take on the project would be very rare. [Maybe some day]

Edit:
Loading cartdridge rom files off of sd-card should be a given. Adding support for different cartridge standards through adapters is up to the creators. They just have to add more pins/lines to the cartridge slot. Different controller ports could be similarly accomodated. Stuff that can be mostly addressed in the future.

Edited by mr_me, Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:28 AM.





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