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#251 Tanooki OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:51 AM

He's got one thing right, he gets traffic since few use that mess.  I remember looking his username up I bought a couple JP GB games off him.



#252 Shawn OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:55 AM

 

Serious question: what did GG give you that you couldn't do yourself with a simple web shop?

 

I'm starting to think the website might have been a throw in while buying the magazine?



#253 tep392 OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:44 AM

 Shipping via ebay, etsy, PP, hell even my personal USPS account all give me about the same discounts on most packages.

 

Quick question.  How do you get a discount with your USPS account? I've been paying $6.45 for a small flatrate priority box purchased from paypal but the USPS charges me $7.10 online.  Is there some discount I don't know about?



#254 McCallister OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:15 PM

Quick question.  How do you get a discount with your USPS account? I've been paying $6.45 for a small flatrate priority box purchased from paypal but the USPS charges me $7.10 online.  Is there some discount I don't know about?

I don't think you get a discount anymore. Before, I think, January, USPS.com gave you a discount for shipping online. For some reason, they changed it to the same rate as walking up to the post office.  Paypal still has that discount.  



#255 icemanxp300 OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:21 PM

Yeah I haven't used my USPS account much and it does appear it doesn't give any benefits now over walk-ins. I use to use it mainly to fulfill orders to international buyers as paypal restricts first class purchases. I canned most international sales last year though so I don't use USPS much now. back then it had discounts.

 

As far as USA sales you can go into paypal and use multi-order shipping for sales that you can't directly print a label for such as gifted payments.... well at least I can on my account. It did not seem to work to well on my wife's account the one time I tried it.



#256 Kosmic Stardust OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:21 PM

Serious question: what did GG give you that you couldn't do yourself with a simple web shop?

A [questionably] reputable name. :roll:

#257 FamicomVinnk OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:42 AM

 

Serious question: what did GG give you that you couldn't do yourself with a simple web shop?

 

 

I guess it comes down to my personal skills.  I wouldn't know where to begin with making my own webshop or paying the money to set one up.  If I had to do it again I know there are things like Squarespace these days that would probably be pretty easy to use.  

 

Also, I set up my GG store long before the whole Reto VGS/Coleco Chameleon fiasco.  I lost a lot of regular customers because of that.  Even though no percentage of my sales was going towards the previous owner of the site (I had an unlimited no fee account), many people refused to use GG on principle.  But by that point all my listings were on GG and as I said before I lack the skills needed to easily transfer them somewhere else so I kept them there.

 

I am actually hoping that with a new owner some of my old customers will come back.  Selling items online is just a hobby for me so if it does well that is great, if not I'll find another place.  Or just sell through facebook or something.



#258 jce3000gt OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:39 AM

Wow so much f'ing negativity in this thread.  But that's the internet for you. Some of you people need to relax, life's too short to be all wound up like that.

 

I for one wish Piko good luck and once GG is fully operational and running I'll check it out as a buyer.  But my selling days are over since ebay and its shady scammers ... I mean buyers ... screwed me over the last time.  i definitely like a few of the ideas here in this thread but I must absolutely emphatically recommend making the feedback systems two ways as well as the issue resolver.  DO NOT FAVOR THE BUYER!  Each case/issue should be handled individually and ruled on actual evidence and without favoritism one way or another.  Too many times f'ing ebay awarded a scammer buyer of mine their refund or adjustment when it was clear they were gaming the system.   Let the two parties also be able to work out a resolution themselves first...

 

My last 2 suggestions are these.  It is ok to have ads but please for the love of all that's holy (and unholy) do not take up a ton of screen real estate with it.  If you don't know what I mean just visit cnn.com or foxnews.com and just look at all of that real estate taken up by ads--especially once you click in on a story.  And if you can implement it a "slim" and "regular" view would be nice with the slim view focused on getting the most items on screen as possible because scrolling sucks.  LOL


Edited by jce3000gt, Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:40 AM.


#259 Flojomojo OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:56 PM

If the buyer has no protection, s/he will take money elsewhere. I know I would.

#260 jce3000gt OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:49 PM

If the buyer has no protection, s/he will take money elsewhere. I know I would.

 

You misunderstand.  You're assuming I said the buyer has no protection and that isn't the case.  What I'm saying is both parties need transaction protection.  If sellers don't have the same level of protection then you'll have less sellers.  Each issue should be dealt with without bias towards either party and as such the evidence needs to decide the case resolution if both parties do not work it out themselves within a reasonable time frame.  

 

I didn't read the whole topic so I don't know if you've ever sold at all on ebay in any capacity but I have, and by a decent amount when I did it part time a few years ago.  I even made it up to silver at one point which was nice.  As a seller I had ZERO protection and like many others were scammed by buyers where ebay/paypal always sided with regardless.  For every ~15 transactions I had at least 1 scammer I had to deal with.  That shit isn't fun and I couldn't tolerate ebay/paypal siding with all of them regardless if they were clearly fabricating a story.  For example, I had a guy buy a Windows 2003 Server R1 beta disc new and sealed.  He then opened a case on ebay saying it was opened and also that it didn't work.  I had recorded a video of me putting that product in the shipping box sealed for just this very occasion.  Ebay had him ship it back to me at my cost and give him a full refund with refunding his shipping too.  When I got it back it was indeed opened, rather poorly I might add, and after running several block by block and installation tests the disc was perfect.  He just copied it for free.  Ebay sided with him even though I had video evidence of the listing details and of the sealed product being packed up in the shipping box while standing in the post office!  


Edited by jce3000gt, Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:56 AM.


#261 Good_Times OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:13 PM

I suppose that I never really saw the point of sites like Game Gavel.  It all seems very impersonal, sterile, and unfriendly.  I've checked out a few, briefly, and the vibe sucks.  ('Stats', filling in endless needless little boxes, scoring, pending trades, blah blah blah....why make the uncomplicated complicated?  Ugh, who needs any of the bureaucratic bullshit?)

 

Is this what we've become or wish to become?  Institutionally conformed, filling out 'trader reports', and other aloof nonsense?   'Organized' (??) websites profiting from our oftentimes baseless lack of trust for each other under the ridiculous and unenforceable illusion of "buyer protection"?   Along the same unsettling lines as VR "sex" and lifelike fleshy robots, no?   I'd urge caution when wandering too far down this dehumanizing road.

 

Make connections, be a DECENT person, be HONEST, get OUT to fleas and thrifts, take CARE of your partners, actually SPEAK with people, etc., ffs.....the immense vastness of the internet, resources and potential connects galore, and folks need to have their hands held and guided via PAID organized game swapping sites?

How sad.



#262 CPUWIZ OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:25 PM

Why did I get another email?  Is there something different in it?



#263 game_escape OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:01 PM

I just got the mass email from Eli this week. I thought the following: "Hmmmm, Game Gavel, I forgot I had an account there. Wait...Isn't Game Gavel the outlet associated with the RetroVGS/Chameleon guy? Oh well, I hope the new ownership makes a go of it. I don't have a ton of interest, but maybe I'll check back in a few months."

 

After reading Eli's defensive and condescending posts in this thread, all interest is lost.  



#264 HammR25 OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:33 PM

I probably would have used Game Gavel if I could have ever gotten my account to work there. Contacting the site admin didn't do anything either so I gave up long ago.




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