vcoleiro1 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 So it does come with both the classic joystick and modern controller as I mentioned on the previous page. Again why?Ditch the classic Joystick from the package and sell it seperate. That will allow them to put a better AMD chip in the VCS for the $250 asking price. Or alternatively include a keyboard and mouse if they want to persist with calling it a computer system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Historian Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 So it does come with both the classic joystick and modern controller as I mentioned on the previous page. Again why? Ditch the classic Joystick from the package and sell it seperate. That will allow them to put a better AMD chip in the VCS for the $250 asking price. Or alternatively include a keyboard and mouse if they want to persist with calling it a computer system Since they are crowd funding, I'm sure they will have mix and match bundles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 So it does come with both the classic joystick and modern controller as I mentioned on the previous page. Again why? Ditch the classic Joystick from the package and sell it seperate. That will allow them to put a better AMD chip in the VCS for the $250 asking price. Or alternatively include a keyboard and mouse if they want to persist with calling it a computer system Since nothing yet exists but renders and lumps of clay, I wouldn't worry too much. And for only $300, I'll go back to playing my extant PS4 with a nice 4K remake of Burnout Paradise, and in 2 days from now, Tempest 4000 (amongst everything else, including VR that is not a fantasy) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcoleiro1 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Since they are crowd funding, I'm sure they will have mix and match bundles. So are you going to tell us why Feargal left or was pushed? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 So are you going to tell us why Feargal left or was pushed? Scumbag, useless, fraudster, inept, all of above. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Historian Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 So are you going to tell us why Feargal left or was pushed? He left, it's his story to tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcoleiro1 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 He left, it's his story to tell Although I understand what you are saying and respect it, it's still frustrating as f.. to have someone here who knows a number of things, but cant tell us. Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Although I understand what you are saying and respect it, it's still frustrating as f.. to have someone here who knows a number of things, but cant tell us. Just saying Pretty sure hipster with the shit under his bottom lip is not in the know. I can randomly show up on any internet forum and profess to have insider knowledge, but not reveal anything because I am under an "NDA". Funny - an NDA for a non-existent project. Wouldn't the double negatives of non(disclosure) and non(existent) cancel each other, and mean you should reveal info? See - just like from the real Atari, there is no information about an imaginary product to be revealed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Please refrain from personal insults. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAShepherd Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Some more spiel: http://comicbook.com/gaming/2018/03/26/ataribox-atari-vcs-console-details-technical-steam-pc-classic-games/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcoleiro1 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) Yeah, there's no need for that. And for what it's worth , I do believe The Historian Edited March 26, 2018 by vcoleiro1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Man that Atari logo backlight is bright on their mockup. That would need a piece of gaffers tape pronto, which would defeat the purpose of the thing. And in this case I agree with the Historian. A person's reason for leaving or being discharged is their story to tell, and no one else's. I would surmise one of two scenarios. At the critical opening of the funding stage they were clearly not where they should have been and he realized the endeavor was beyond him on top of the ongoing mess brewing on the watch, or Atari realized it based on the performance to that point and asked him to leave. It doesn't matter who tells it anyway. Depending on which side you heard from you're not likely to get the true story. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgeld Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Man that Atari logo backlight is bright on their mockup. That would need a piece of gaffers tape pronto, which would defeat the purpose of the thing. Ya I said that a few pages ago, but what I find interesting is there's one of the videos where they have this thing in hand waving it around with all the lights full blast, so I wonder if they just taped a flashlight in the silly thing and called it a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman000 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 If it's now a computer game system they should put it in a light grey case with big pastel buttons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Historian Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Although I understand what you are saying and respect it, it's still frustrating as f.. to have someone here who knows a number of things, but cant tell us. Just saying And you may be right, perhaps it is time I go. Please refrain from personal insults. I can only surmise that Stephen has some personal experience with Feargal that he hasn't shared. Perhaps he participated in the first Kickstarter Feargal did. We know that didn't work out well, regardless of the eventual success of the original Gameband that spawned from it. Yeah, there's no need for that. And for what it's worth , I do believe The Historian And I thank you for that, but I think I'll head on out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcoleiro1 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 And you may be right, perhaps it is time I go. I can only surmise that Stephen has some personal experience with Feargal that he hasn't shared. Perhaps he participated in the first Kickstarter Feargal did. We know that didn't work out well, regardless of the eventual success of the original Gameband that spawned from it. And I thank you for that, but I think I'll head on out. Don't let that push you away. I think we all understand your situation. So yeah, please do stay Would be nice to see Feargal here as well , to be honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Don't let that push you away. I think we all understand your situation. So yeah, please do stay Would be nice to see Feargal here as well , to be honest. Posts like this makes me wonder why I stay at a forum I've been at for almost 17 years. Congratulations - you win the shit post of the forum award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Relax, it is just a non-existing video game console. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Historian took all his lumps 100 pages back. The most offensive thing I see of this site is that blue box with the white f. Hell even the twitter one. I wish to live in a zero unlike zero hastag world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Not sure if this has been posted yet in any of the Atari Box threads, but... VentureBeat article: https://venturebeat.com/2018/03/26/atari-pressed-the-reset-button-on-its-atari-vcs-game-console/ Apparently Feargal has been off the project since the end of December. A Michael Arzt is now in charge of the project. Specifically: Fred Chesnais: So, Feargal [Mac Conuladh, former general manager of the Ataribox project], is no longer with us. GamesBeat: Do you have someone else taking over? Chesnais: Michael Arzt (head of Atari Connected Devices). He’s been with us for more than a year. He’s been pushing the project and coordinating with Feargal. Feargal left the day — we announced we were going live on December 14, and he left on December 13. Nothing else to say. GamesBeat: And now you’re back on track? Chesnais: Yeah. The question is, why did we abort? We realized we weren’t ready. We had lots of issues to fix, things we could do better. We chose to postpone it. We’re still working. The great thing about pausing is it gave us a window to do even more, to do another top to bottom audit. We can make sure all the boxes are checked. In a complex project sometimes you have to stop. GamesBeat: Do you have a revised schedule now? Chesnais: We’re going to make the announcement soon. We’ve been able to review everything, go through the checklist, watch for red flags. We’re talking with the content guys, with the engineers, everything. This, right here, shows how far off Atari is from having any idea of what they're doing. Whether Feargal quit or was fired isn't actually important ("left" is subject to interpretation). It's that he left the project the day before it was supposed to go live that's important. Maybe Atari realized he just wasn't capable of producing anything and gave him the axe. Or maybe he started to panic because he was in over his head and ran away. Or maybe he felt the Ataribox was a lost cause and jumped ship. Whatever happened - it doesn't matter. Atari wanted something, and Feargal couldn't deliver it. But it took them until the last second to discover they had nothing. Six months after they first announced the thing. That's what the takeaway is here. And how do we know they had nothing? Because they have nothing now. They showed nothing at GDC. An empty box with LEDs in it. After three months of knowing they had nothing - they still have nothing. What have they been doing? If this is truly just a cheap Linux box - they could've bought one, and set that up next to the Ataribox case as a proof-of-concept. If they had anything resembling their online store, or custom interface, or one single application they wanted the Ataribox to run, they could have shown that. Then said, "Here's what we want it to do, now the rest is a matter of fitting the final hardware into our case, and polishing up the software". But they have nothing. And the reason they have nothing is that they still don't actually have any idea of what they're building, and how they're going to do it. Now, they put some other guy in charge who's been with them "more than a year". I guess for Atari, that's considered longevity. And yet - he's still "coordinating with Feargal" for some reason. Maybe they just want to make sure they get their Gamebands. Also, their story has changed. Chesnais saying, "We had lots of issues to fix" is a far cry from their original "one key element" excuse. And now, only now they're "reviewing everything", and "watching for red flags". Just now. Not last June when they first announced the thing. Not before they got to the point of pre-announcing their crowdfunding. Only after it completely blew up in their face. And even then, they still had the complete and utter ignorance to show up at GDC with absolutely nothing. They just couldn't wait until after they actually formulated a plan and got something - anything - working before attempting to resurrect the project. Now, they're a bigger joke than they were before. They got their press coverage. Hope they enjoy it. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiffsGamingVideos Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) Atari's New York phone number went dead a couple of months ago.. Anyone know what it is now? or better yet who do you need to talk to about releasing software on their platform? I've sent them 20 emails asking and nothing but spam in my e-mail. Usually railroad tycoon or something like an overpriced hat. Now in the venture beat article they say "We’re currently looking for indie devs." SO HOW DO INDIE DEVELOPERS GET IN CONTACT WITH ATARI WITH NO PHONE NUMBER AND NO EMAIL RETURNS????? BTW: I just sent a message to the CEO Fred Chesnais on facebook about this. I know it's from left field but if Atari is serious about this, then he'll respond. If not, then I guess we all release our games on steam, amazon, play store and iTunes. Edited March 27, 2018 by BiffsGamingVideos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcoleiro1 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) Actually I would like to see Feargal here, at least that way we could ask him questions directly. Although I suspect it would turn into a shit show Edited March 27, 2018 by vcoleiro1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Obviously The Historian knew full well his buddy was off the project back in December but didn't even care to give a clear answer to us on that. A little disappointed in that part but it's all good I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Obviously The Historian knew full well his buddy was off the project back in December but didn't even care to give a clear answer to us on that. A little disappointed in that part but it's all good I guess. To be fair, sometimes when you know things, it's either not your place or simply not right to reveal them. I think when it comes to someone either leaving of their own accord or forced out of a position (or something in-between), that's especially true. I honestly don't get the vitriol directed at The Historian. Any info, no matter how little - and as long as it's real - should be welcome. I know I go out of my way to provide the same whenever possible because I know that I appreciate it when I'm on the other side of the equation. No one is entitled to extra information just because they want to know it. If things worked like that, I think we'd quickly find we'd have zero info outside of heavily filtered, official channels, and where's the fun in that? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Historian Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 No worries Bill. My presence is disruptive and that's not what I want to bring here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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