Flojomojo Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 here's AMD's press release. https://www.amd.com/pl/press-releases/2019-04-16-amd-expands-embedded-product-family-adds-design-wins-and-customers-new i'm sure John Phelan is beside himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 All this time we assumed Atari* was just buying an off-the-shelf SOC from AMD. Maybe AMD is pouring a little sugar on Atari* in the belief that the old name will help sell their low-end systems? The marketing slogans write themselves. Ryzen Embedded. Fast enough to run Atari games, affordable enough for your point of sale system. R1000, it's not just for $150 netbooks anymore. Buy now and get Air-Sea Battle® for free with purchase! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 with apologies to SEGA! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACODON Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Fresh from the IGG page. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I'd comment.. But why bother at this point? It's a scam. I'm convinced that Atari si running a "pump and dump" stock scheme (that ironically doesn't seem to be working.) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 meanwhile, the content mills are dutifully regurgitating the press release, like this (don't bother clicking, it's what they want) Shall we parse this bullshit? I don't think Michael "Pantsed" Arzt understands what "unprecedented" or "highly-creative" means. “With the AMD Ryzen Embedded R1000 powering the Atari VCS, we can support the 4K 60fps HDR content that users expect from a modern, secure gaming and entertainment system,” said Michael Arzt, COO of Atari Connected Devices. “AMD’s new Ryzen Embedded SoC will also help protect the VCS’ environment and content as we support an unprecedented open-access model that allows Atari’s highly-creative community to install any other operating system side by side with the Atari OS.” 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariNerd Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 ^Saved, in the knick of time, by solutions created for something else, or at least the marketing spin by companies with much deeper pockets. >^^< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlecRob Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 All this time we assumed Atari* was just buying an off-the-shelf SOC from AMD. Maybe AMD is pouring a little sugar on Atari* in the belief that the old name will help sell their low-end systems? The marketing slogans write themselves. Ryzen Embedded. Fast enough to run Atari games, affordable enough for your point of sale system. R1000, it's not just for $150 netbooks anymore. Buy now and get Air-Sea Battle® for free with purchase! This is just supporting my idea to use the VCS as a point of sale system... perhaps it would be a Piece Of Shit system... hook up a keyboard and barcode scanner and you're good to go... even attach it to a company server via ethernet to transfer financial data 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 You can already do that with a dozen or more mini PCs that cost a lot less than a fictional AtariBawks. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlecRob Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) is AMD a reputable enough company to assume that because they acknowledge VCS's existence that perhaps it isnt a scam? or are even they being fooled?? Edited April 16, 2019 by AlecRob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hizzy Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/04/16/ataris-vcs-will-be-powered-by-amds-new-ryzen-processor/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/04/16/ataris-vcs-will-be-powered-by-amds-new-ryzen-processor/Note that they have the same press release as the other "journalists," along with this brilliant analysis: Heres hoping the company has something more to show off at E3 2019 as that will be one of the biggest conventions they could a major announcement at before the holidays and display what the processor can do.More reputable news outfits will wait until there's actual news, not just sound bites. I think we should watch what they do, not what they say. Remember their early update when they invoked Elvis Presley? and said, "a little less conversation, a little more action please?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Yup, most of these "tech news outlets" simply exist to regurgitate press releases and generate ad clicks. Might as well be spam in your inbox. is AMD a reputable enough company to assume that because they acknowledge VCS's existence that perhaps it isnt a scam? To be completely fair, all AMD's press release did is acknowledge the talk about the AtariBawks by some marketing dinks. I'd be shocked if there is even any order paperwork signed yet. Atari may have been sent a mini ITX test board from one of AMDs partners to play with, simply based on AMDs interest in getting another sale. I've received those myself just for shopping around for a solution with expected quantities of 20 or less. If Atari ever writes an actual check, I expect it will just be to buy a mini ITX board with AMD's SOC on it, just as I predicted over a year ago. I was giving them too much credit back then, because for over a year they've been unable to demonstrate even that much. I think the jury remains out as to whether they will actually commit any of the backer funds to production or just continue pissing it away or hiding it. The only legitimate evidence of anything would be actual photographs and video of the board and box being manufactured and assembled in China. Until you see that, there's no evidence they've done anything on this "project" that you or I couldn't do better ourselves. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 All this time we assumed Atari* was just buying an off-the-shelf SOC from AMD. Maybe AMD is pouring a little sugar on Atari* in the belief that the old name will help sell their low-end systems? The marketing slogans write themselves. Ryzen Embedded. Fast enough to run Atari games, affordable enough for your point of sale system. R1000, it's not just for $150 netbooks anymore. Buy now and get Air-Sea Battle® for free with purchase! And don't forget: Atari SA and AMD's CEO Lisa Su have been major BFFs for, like, over a year-and-a-half! I bet she's still super-excited and can't wait to play! Seriously, at this point it'd make more sense for them to be basing this thing on ARM. Low TDP, their OS of choice already runs perfectly well on it, whatever (likely uncredited) OSS emulator they're probably planning on using to run their back catalogue almost certainly builds on it, and there are GPU choices that are perfectly fine for a device that doesn't need to render umpty-billion polygons per second in order to generate its display. One phone call to Cambridge (not the one in Massachussetts) could have solved a lot of problems. Of course, that assumes that the intent was to bring this device successfully to market, and I really doubt that it ever was. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I don't understand why AMD is even bothering to mention small fry Atari*. AMD has made the hardware for PlayStation and Xbox for many years. This kind of press helps Atari* but it doesn't help AMD. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 This is just supporting my idea to use the VCS as a point of sale system... perhaps it would be a Piece Of Shit system... hook up a keyboard and barcode scanner and you're good to go... even attach it to a company server via ethernet to transfer financial data NO NO NO NO NO NO NO THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA I have to deal with things like the Payment Card Security Standards in a professional capacity. There is absolutely no way in hell that I would want one of these devices (or one designed by Atari SA) connected to any sort of network used for processing financial transactions. Atari SA is a company that can't put together an x86/x64-based emulation box in the space of a year-and-a-half. As a result, my confidence in their ability to design a secure POS terminal is nil - they wouldn't understand the engineering challenges from physical item to software that that presents, nor would they understand the risks, liabilities, and/or impacts of being out of compliance with PCI standards for merchants, consumers, or their own company. These people are total assclowns. One of the last things I would want to entrust them (or their products) with is my personal financial data. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) Even if, (and this is a huge red flashing "if"), the Atari licensing company committed to really building this thing with a custom plastic box and an off the shelf board with an SOC, I predict an absolute 0% chance they would have it produced and shipped by the end of 2019. Even in the insanely unlikely event they are actually working on this in earnest, but for some reason unable to show anything for it to date, they wouldn't be far enough along by the end of the year to avoid the cliche manufacturing disruptions of Chinese New Year in February which grinds manufacturing to a halt for 3 to 6 weeks. All the scammy crowd funding projects use that as an excuse for another 6 month delay or two. I wouldn't be surprised if none of them are even thinking about that. They'd have to actually be thinking about going into production with it for that. If anything, they'll be counting on that as one of their excuses for further delays down the road. On the Point of Sale silliness, any device used for credit card transactions would need to pass audit and security standards testing for PCI compliance. Again, if it were to ever exist, good luck with that. Edited April 16, 2019 by JBerel 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Fresh from the IGG page. Atari doesn't make games. It’s not really about content. It’s about making sure we provide an open platform. We don’t want to dictate content. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Are we still talking about tacos? Besides, it's Taco Tuesday, I'm having tacos, and it's my birthday. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Are we still talking about tacos? Besides, it's Taco Tuesday, I'm having tacos, and it's my birthday. Happy Taco Tuesday! (And birthday, too.) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Happy birthday FrankoTaco! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Are we still talking about tacos? Besides, it's Taco Tuesday, I'm having tacos, and it's my birthday. Happy birthtaco! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman000 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Almost had tacos tonight, but the line was too long. Went next door & had Wataburger instead. Got them to put fajita vegetables on my burger tho, so it was still good & kinda Tex-Mex. Sorta. Maybe. In part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 AVCS made Variety, but not because it's an entertaining story: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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