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#251 Nathan Strum OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:31 PM

...says Artie.

 

Correct? :)

 

 

Artie doesn't usually clue me into what he's doing. Seemed kind of annoyed earlier though... kept mumbling something about "more vaporware consoles".



#252 Keatah OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:10 PM

Probably just something like the Ouya with Atari running their own eshop and making virtual console games with their own IPs.  Doesn't really sound that impressive, but if it does well it could open the door to Atari publishing some retro-inspired games of their own, sort of like what Adult Swim has been doing.

 

I'm not sure I go for retro-inspired games. I'd rather just emulate the original as accurately as possible as opposed to a campy remake.
 



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Posted Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:15 PM

Ouya came and went. If Ataribox is another Ouya, it is basically DOA.



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Posted Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:28 AM

Ouya came and went. If Ataribox is another Ouya, it is basically DOA.

I still have my Ouya but I have no idea what to do with it anymore. The emulators were good but I use the homebrew channel on my Wii now which is better. I don't use it for streaming and there really aren't any must have games exclusive to it to warrant it's use. It will be relegated to a corner of the closet in my collection and at best a conversation piece in gaming history. I hope Atari has set their sights a little higher if not, you're right, this thing is doomed to fail.



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Posted Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:54 AM

This post still has me racking my brain. I've got nothing though. Hopefully this doesn't keep me up all night. >_<

Does it even play games? Neither the Atari CEO nor my dev response email used the word 'game'. You said not to expect a games console in the traditional sense, but can we even expect one at all?


It will play games of course. It's just a question of whether it will offer anything unique in terms of said games, or, in particular, services.

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Posted Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:16 PM

So, let me ask this.. 

 

What is your top question for Atari and the company behind the device? Assuming they are listening and reading... they would be stupid not to right?



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Posted Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:20 PM

What is it/what does it do?



#258 Kosmic Stardust OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:20 PM

What is it/what does it do?

It's a box, and presumably it connects to the internet and plugs into a TV. That is all we know so far...



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Posted Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:16 PM

Taking that in to account, my new one top question for Atari would be, "Why would I want to own that?"

 

...but, if I were to ask just one question, I'd probably quote that movie and go with "What's in the box?"



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Posted Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:19 PM

I've been thinking, Bill, by service, do you mean a gaming related service, like Steam? I think you've denied Steam specifically already though. Some people have said a subscription game streaming box, but you denied streaming too. Maybe it's still a subscription based gaming service though? Like, access to download any of the console's entire library for a periodic cost? Noone's tried that business model in video games before, I think.

The best thing about it would be killing the F2P model, I think.

#261 Kosmic Stardust OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:17 PM

Ouya 2.0. :roll:



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Posted Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:23 PM

This is probably a crazy idea, but it would be great if one of the value-adds/services was a system to actually teach and allow someone to write their own 2600 game. With all the coding-education toys out there now, it would be awesome if one could write games in assembly on this.

 

Also, I hope this Box product brings back, in some way, the Atari computers.



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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:58 AM

This is probably a crazy idea, but it would be great if one of the value-adds/services was a system to actually teach and allow someone to write their own 2600 game. With all the coding-education toys out there now, it would be awesome if one could write games in assembly on this.

 

Also, I hope this Box product brings back, in some way, the Atari computers.

It would never work. Kids these days too spoiled by mobile phones and instant gratification. There is nothing "instant" about programming a game.



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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:04 AM

So, let me ask this.. 
 
What is your top question for Atari and the company behind the device? Assuming they are listening and reading... they would be stupid not to right?


If I was to play one with no Atari branding on it and no knowledge that Atari had anything to do with it then would I still be able to guess that it has something to do with Atari?

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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:43 AM

https://www.forbes.c...industry-needs/

Now this is an Ataribox opinion piece that I like. He says gamers could use more options. Hopefully when Ataribox outsells the iPhone, all the other old players will get back into the hardware game too. Just imagine a shiny new Intellivisionbox to go with your Game Developer Barbie. Awwww yeah.

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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:42 AM

Man, between this forum, two others, Facebook, twitter, reddit, and the comments sections of a dozen Ataribox articles, I've yet to find anyone besides myself who seems genuinely enthused for this. I mean, I know debuting with no information is a bad move, but they responded to my email inquiry pretty quickly.

I guess I'm just an unshakable optimist. The right combo of antidepressants will do that to you. :-)


I have seen interest at one of the gaming news sites I visit. Usually Atari/retro game articles gain little interest, so I was surprised to see an Ataribox article have quite a few comments from interested people.. even if they did have unrealistic expectations of it (that it would take on PS4/Xbox)

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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:45 AM

Chesnais said that Atari’s revival is well under way. Atari filed for bankruptcy protection in 2013, but Chesnais bought it and pledged to make it great again. The company is now profitable, and it is engaged in making mobile games. It is licensing its brands more widely, such as licensing its Atari name for the upcoming Blade Runner 2049 movie.


So today's Atari is NOT the old Infogrames any more? I thought it still was. Man, it's so hard to keep up! :P

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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:55 AM

So, let me ask this.. 
 
What is your top question for Atari and the company behind the device? Assuming they are listening and reading... they would be stupid not to right?


Who is your target audience for this?

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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:57 AM

So today's Atari is NOT the old Infogrames any more? I thought it still was. Man, it's so hard to keep up! :P

 

It's been dead and buried and dug up again so many times, it's perfectly understandable for you not to recognize the corpse bride that is Atari™ 2017. 



#270 Thomas Jentzsch OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:24 AM

To me the current Atari are just five random letters.



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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:28 AM

It's too bad that all these old companies are getting their name slapped on stuff when they have nothing to do with the original companies. 

 

Just look at Commodore.

 



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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:37 AM

And we, the consumers are guilty because we look for brands.



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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:58 AM

I've been thinking, Bill, by service, do you mean a gaming related service, like Steam? I think you've denied Steam specifically already though. Some people have said a subscription game streaming box, but you denied streaming too. Maybe it's still a subscription based gaming service though? Like, access to download any of the console's entire library for a periodic cost? Noone's tried that business model in video games before, I think.

The best thing about it would be killing the F2P model, I think.

 

I only denied it being a streaming service. I also stated that that thinking could have changed in the time I saw it. Considering the first-hand challenges I've seen (behind-the-scenes) with establishing a streaming service, I just don't think that's a practical option, though.



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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:09 AM

It's been dead and buried and dug up again so many times, it's perfectly understandable for you not to recognize the corpse bride that is Atari™ 2017.


So
1) Bushnell Atari
2) Warner Atari
3) Tramiel Atari
4) Atari Games
5) JTS Atari
6) Hasbro Atari
7) Infogrames Atari
8) Ataribox Atari

Did I miss any?

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Posted Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:12 AM

One step forward, two steps back.

Looks like the only way for me to get to the bottom of this mystery is to just be patient like everyone else.

Man, that is not my strong suit. :-(




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