+frankodragon Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 You're still better off investing in Del Taco. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youxia Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) Counter argument: The Pandora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console) Not a main stream success, but successful enough to last a few years. Not sure if this is a good example. Pandora is not on the stock market and it's also an actual product, which at the time of the release filled a particular niche. There was no open-source, pocket-sized, mini PCs with a keyboard back then. One similarity is that perhaps its user base is quite oblivious to any criticism. Which is probably why the new one (Pyra) can get away with its quite ridiculous price - despite the fact that now it actually has competitors. Edited June 19, 2018 by youxia 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgeld Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I remember the pandora development cycle, it was a good dumpster fire from start to finish but from the start they had a clear roadmap and shared every step of the way good or bad ... even with a bit of candy coating and delays 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 By the way, yesterday I got the same Atari VCS commercial prefacing my desired YouTube video thrice in a row. I understand that might be due to I'm logged into my Google account all the time and it collects data about every page I visit and tries to display relevant commercials to me. Since I've barely visited the Indiegogo site but are reading this thread almost daily, I take it Google counts that anyone who reads and posts in this thread might be a customer of the new Atari conosle that Ataribox, and displays the commercial enough number of times until you have placed an order. So much for Atari's opinion we're all haters over here in that case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtris Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 By the way, yesterday I got the same Atari VCS commercial prefacing my desired YouTube video thrice in a row. I understand that might be due to I'm logged into my Google account all the time and it collects data about every page I visit and tries to display relevant commercials to me. Since I've barely visited the Indiegogo site but are reading this thread almost daily, I take it Google counts that anyone who reads and posts in this thread might be a customer of the new Atari conosle that Ataribox, and displays the commercial enough number of times until you have placed an order. So much for Atari's opinion we're all haters over here in that case. That, and several vcs youtube videos have been embedded in the thread, so google is most likely tracking that way, too. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) How to disable ad targeting. The legal definition of fraud. The Best Taco in Every State. Flashback--The best GDC "hands-on" video which is still entertaining to watch: Edited June 19, 2018 by PlaysWithWolves 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Do we want to discuss how AtariVCS won't have streaming apps, but rather all streaming will be done through the browser? You could be forgiven if you think a modern device that is advertised as a "Home Entertainment Streaming Device" would have native streaming apps. It's 2018, after-all, and it calls itself that in its Indiegogo description: And says here that you can stream: And mentions it again later on: Yet, specific app providers are strangely missing from the description anywhere on the page. Well, that's not exactly true. For some reason, this is under the section called "Playing Games on AtariVCS" about web browser app access: Not enough evidence? Am I just another hater? Well, probably. But listen to Michael Artz himself say that companies like Twitch won't make a native app unless there are enough user numbers there. And also that browser apps will work fine. Scrub to the 25 minute mark and listen a bit. Also, at the 40 minute mark he says he knows Discord will work because it can be used through the browser: So is this a big nothingtaco? Are you fine with having to load up a web browser to stream on your streaming device? Or just install apps separately in the Ubuntu sandbox? Who cares, they have a year to do it? Or is this yet another sign of Atari playing the "ambiguity and wishful thinking" game? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 "Like never before!" Bells and whistles. Trolls and haters. This is only the beginning. Just wait until the team is back from E3. Lots of deals. Simple as that. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman000 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 "So is this a big nothingtaco? Are you fine with having to load up a web browser to stream on your streaming device? Or just install apps separately in the Ubuntu sandbox? Who cares, they have a year to do it?" I rarely install apps for web services; if I can access the service via the web, if the service depends on the Internet to work anyways, why should I waste my precious hard disk space? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 But will Knight Rider be available on the console, seeing as there's been a lot of Hard Work on the Atacobocks? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd30 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) Bells and whistles. Trolls and haters. Show me where there's sanity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyaFeDlJJAk Edited June 19, 2018 by mbd30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I rarely install apps for web services; if I can access the service via the web, if the service depends on the Internet to work anyways, why should I waste my precious hard disk space?On a desktop browserHooked to a television Navigated with a game controller (or voice) For three hundred dollars In a year, maybe Sounds great #atari, can't wait to play! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+GoldLeader Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'm gonna check the Market in about 4 minutes... For those who wish to follow; ATARI stock on the American market is called TARIF (Yes, That's its ticker). Given what's absolutely killing the Market right now, they have probably the most unfortunate name on the whole exchange. At any rate I seem to remember a few days back it was 67 cents or so and had managed to drop more than 5% in 1 day and still only sold a little over 600 shares in volume. I wouldn't recommend it for investors. No Way! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+GoldLeader Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Super Awesome! Can't wait to play! Oh Wait! They'd prefer it if you didn't clog up their Social Media with Cut & Paste nonsense, You Hater! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 The thought of removing our Xbox One's streaming apps to do everything through the browser makes my head hurt. Not to mention, as I showed, the AVCS is advertised as a media streaming device. That implies things, like a Netflix app easy enough for a mom to use. On a desktop browserHooked to a televisionNavigated with a game controller (or voice)For three hundred dollarsIn a year, maybeSounds great #atari, can't wait to play! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+GoldLeader Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 To give (very Little) credit where credit is (perhaps in the Future) due... I predict they (probably) will have streaming apps and not actually just go through a browser...But I'm just guessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowCemetery Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 according to the arzt interview they'll have app versions as soon as other people decide it's a good idea to make them 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVgaTv Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 according to the arzt interview they'll have app versions as soon as other people decide it's a good idea to make them Which is to say never because no company is going to waste time on a console that only has 9,000 of them in circulation 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+GoldLeader Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 according to the arzt interview they'll have app versions as soon as other people decide it's a good idea to make them Which is to say never because no company is going to waste time on a console that only has 9,000 of them in circulation You mean despite the fact that I HATE nutari (and their lawyers) and definitely think they deserve to Die a Painful Death for calling this "thing" a "VCS" and think we should somehow scrub all references of it on the internet so a search engine (Any search Engine) will only return images and references to a 1977 Atari VCS should someone type that in (to said search engine), and also wish I could personally Destroy all targeted ads which feature this Atrocity, that I, being of likely unsound mind, have actually, as it turns out Overestimated them?? Yeah, seems about right... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Most Lemonade stands have lemonade Most of them........ But how do you know it's lemonade? It could be bull piss. But you don't really know for sure until you try it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 The thought of removing our Xbox One's streaming apps to do everything through the browser makes my head hurt. Not to mention, as I showed, the AVCS is advertised as a media streaming device. That implies things, like a Netflix app easy enough for a mom to use. I'm the exact opposite. I refuse to download a dedicated "app" for anything that I can accomplish on a modern web broswer. That's just providing another excuse for companies to track our internet useage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'm gonna check the Market in about 4 minutes... For those who wish to follow; ATARI stock on the American market is called TARIF (Yes, That's its ticker). Given what's absolutely killing the Market right now, they have probably the most unfortunate name on the whole exchange. At any rate I seem to remember a few days back it was 67 cents or so and had managed to drop more than 5% in 1 day and still only sold a little over 600 shares in volume. I wouldn't recommend it for investors. No Way! TARIF. Now that's a good one. Is that what they are attempting to collect upon with the IndieGoGo campaign? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColecoJoe Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 . 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaysWithWolves Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'm the exact opposite. I refuse to download a dedicated "app" for anything that I can accomplish on a modern web broswer. That's just providing another excuse for companies to track our internet useage. You do this even on a modern console? I guess you don't own a Roku or similar streaming device either? Do you even stream to TV, bro? I can't imagine what Amazon Prime would track through their Xbox One app other than what Prime videos we watch, but I'd be interested in finding out more. At any rate, it still doesn't take away from the fact Atari is being misleading about their VCS as a streaming device. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 If you're gonna talk from a perspective of "ecosystem" this thing is a total dumpster fire. If their intent is to have an Atari app store specific to this device, no one will make anything designed to launch in it, even if it just needs some xml wrapper. It's like some kid at the Superbowl sayin, "I'm gonna take my football and go home." Why should anyone care? It sounds like they're headed to a place equivalent to the Wii launching with controllers optional, and nothing available to run on it but Atari Vault and the homebrew channel. To restate what most every knowledgeable and principled tech writer has said. It's like they have no idea what he hell they are doing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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