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#1 TI998owner OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:02 AM

Hi, I am interested in getting the Software for the Horizon P-GRAM or P-GRAM +
Card. Just purchased a couple of the New Proto boards, this looks
Like a good vacation project or spare time project. Also just downloaded
The Construction project guide from the WHT Schematic is included.
,
Kool part is I had already built the exact same Real Time Clock circuit
On a small perf board and used a removable buss connector, so I will be able
To add the clock feature after I build the P-gram + on the new Proto board.
Thanks in advance for any help

#2 arcadeshopper OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:55 AM

have you looked on ftp://ftp.whtech.com/ 

there's a sitelist you can search I found 4 references to pgram



#3 TI998owner OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:05 PM

Hi, YES, I downloaded the schematic diagram from the WHT, but I could not
Find any reference to the program software or any support Disk.
Would be bad if no one actualy still has a cope of the software.
,
Would really like to build this when ever the Brand New Proto
Boards are actually shipped .
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Anyone out there have this software ?
,
Thanks for any help

#4 arcadeshopper OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:58 PM

look in sitelist.txt for pgram.. did you look at the archive files?   if they are the wrong thing then lmk otherwise..look there

 

Greg



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Posted Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:36 PM

Here is the latest P-GRAM+ software from Tony Knerr (PGDSR17.DSK)  - patched for Y2K and other updates.  Have also attached images of the other original disks I have on hand.  Let me know if you need high resolution pictures of the card.

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Edited by aftyde, Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:38 PM.


#6 TI998owner OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:32 PM

Hi,
Thank you for the reply Greg and thank you to chopper commander for the
( 4 ) files. High red pictures sure would be helpful as soon as I
Start building this board.
,
I spent the off hours , what little I had away from my work job.
Working on getting my HDX1 board set backup. And searching the
WHT archives for the listing on the PGRAM and PGRAM+ boards.
,
Was at first a little confusing, seems most software is listed
Under emulators/pc99/pc99 dsk collection/vendors/budMillsServices.
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That is how I did find some of the setup disk, today But not these
( 4 ) updated disk, thanks again for the great help

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Posted Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:11 AM

I don't know if that is the last update from Tony. I have a copy of Vn 2.3 from him.



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Posted Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:35 PM

I don't know if that is the last update from Tony. I have a copy of Vn 2.3 from him.

 

Post it!  :)



#9 marc.hull OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:35 PM

Hi, I am interested in getting the Software for the Horizon P-GRAM or P-GRAM +
Card. Just purchased a couple of the New Proto boards, this looks
Like a good vacation project or spare time project. Also just downloaded
The Construction project guide from the WHT Schematic is included.
,
Kool part is I had already built the exact same Real Time Clock circuit
On a small perf board and used a removable buss connector, so I will be able
To add the clock feature after I build the P-gram + on the new Proto board.
Thanks in advance for any help


This is not a really good (as is) proto board project. The gram timing is sketchy at best on a pcb. It's failure window is less than plus 10ns (with a 100ns SRAM) on the finished product.

A 55Ns SRAM will help but your placement and wiring needs to be tight.

This circuit timing can be so tight that putting the card on an extender board at the far side of the flex card causes gram issues.


Sounds like I'm shitting here I know. Take it for what it's worth.

Marcus...

#10 atrax27407 OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:41 PM

Solved the pronlem (i hope). Here is PGRAM 2.3

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#11 Ksarul OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:13 AM

I'd rather know how tight the timing is before trying to build one, Marc! Many thanks for the input.



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Posted Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:23 AM

Interesting - tried the 2.3 DSR and it seems to not have the Y2K fix in it?  I wonder if that is something that gets applied after the fact.  There is a file on my PGRAM disk called PGRAMY2KAR.  So I looked at the hex dump from the two DSR files on our respective disks.

 

On my disk - the versions are

PGDSR - ver 2.1 4/01/01

PGDSS - ver 2.1 4/01/01

 

On the PGRAM2_3 disk, the versions are

 

PGDSR - ver 2.0 10/29/89

PGDSS - ver 2.x 10/29/89

 

So there is a chance that the files got mixed up at some point.  It seems like your utilities are newer, yet the DSR seems to have same dates as the originally distributed versions.

 

Do you have a copy of the PGSOURCE arc file?



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Posted Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:11 AM

Hi, here are the files I had gathered times ago. Maybe you want to have a look.

If there are doubles, maybe you can give some feedback so that I can delete or rename them.

 

Attached File  PGRAM-Card-001.zip   9.87MB   9 downloads

 

 



#14 aftyde OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:03 AM

I'll look through them - seems I do have a copy of the source code for the 1.0 version dated 10/29/89 and have attached the disk image.  These were originally from an ARC file called "PG+SRC2/90" - and I believe I bought my PGRAM+ from Ernie Pergrem 

 

Hi, here are the files I had gathered times ago. Maybe you want to have a look.

If there are doubles, maybe you can give some feedback so that I can delete or rename them.

 

attachicon.gifPGRAM-Card-001.zip

 

 

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Posted Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:37 AM

ah OK, cool. IIRC there is a "290" file in my ZIP, too



#16 aftyde OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:53 AM

If people can post their various P-GRAM+ versions, I'll collect it all and organize it.  I have been experimenting with using CALL PG from BASIC to drop into the P-GRAM menu and dump carts.  I was able to do that with the RXB cart I made from a UberGROM board.

 

https://www.arcadesh...tegory=16275020

 

I have tried loading things into my FlashROM99 - yet when I attempt to dump the cart I only get RAM Bank 1 and 2.  (which I would expect)  When I load it into the PGRAM I'll usually get the title screen (such as with DM2K) but it locks up right after.  Being able to put DM2K or TIMXT into GROM/GRAM storage on a P-GRAM card seems like a cool thing...

 

I do have a FinalGROM on order - so fussing around with a (more or less obsolete) PGRAM may seem like a waste of time - but hey, it has a clock!  :)

 

Cheers, Arthur...



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Posted Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:47 PM

good idea, organizing files. What I (mostly) do if I "rename" files,

I just _append something to the original filename. Mostly ;)

 

So there will be less question coming up in future I hope,

and it is for the legacy, a little bit at least






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