Metal Jesus Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Microsoft's HOLOLENS is a $3,000 mixed reality technical marvel...and I got the opportunity to play many of the games ...in my own game room. Games Shown: Fragments RoboRaid Young Conker Actiongram Galaxy Explorer HoloTube Anybody else see the potential for this device? Not just for games, but other computer applications too. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Tarzilla Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 We have had one at work since the developers pre release, videos do not do it justice! Needs to be lighter but playing Conker in a large cubical environment is very cool, it is aware every surface (horizontal/vertical and underneath,) the random level generation based the real world is amazing. It is a full Windows 10 machine built into it and I wore it in my office for awhile. You can uses all your normal apps and pin them to the walls so I had Outlook and word on one wall, VLC on another playing a tv show that I could see out of the corner of my eye and I could quickly look at if some thing drew my attention. The third wall had my calendar and some other monitoring tools. If you have a Microsoft Store near you go check it out in person. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Jesus Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 You can uses all your normal apps and pin them to the walls so I had Outlook and word on one wall, VLC on another playing a tv show that I could see out of the corner of my eye and I could quickly look at if some thing drew my attention. The third wall had my calendar and some other monitoring tools. If you have a Microsoft Store near you go check it out in person. You're absolutely right about this and I didn't really cover it like I should have in the video. The ability to pin your apps around the room and have them stick there... even when you come back days or weeks later just feels like magic. And it does it when you MOVE between rooms too. The implementation of the Kinect technology is really what makes this special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Ks Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I remain unconvinced that VR is anything besides a neat gimmick, at least as far as pedestrian uses for it go. It may end up having a second life in the professional sector like Kinect (it's used for medical tech now), but I think the way tech companies are trying to push it as a consumer product is misguided. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 While I'm sure AR will have its uses, for games, a lot will depend a lot on the environment you are in. VR gives developers full control over that. For example in VR a game like Skyrim will take you to another world to fight dragons or whatever. AR will have you fighting dragons... in your office park? Cool for sure, but I don't think ultimately it would hold my interest as long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Jesus Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 I don't think ultimately it would hold my interest as long. Imagine playing a top down RTS like Command & Conquer or Warcraft 2...but on your actual kitchen table? That could be pretty damn cool. Or maybe a mix of D&D, where the DM has a top view on the table and the rooms and corridors...but the players see it in first person traditional VR? The possibilities are pretty amazing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good_Times Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 So, how long before this thing is marketed as a 'next level sexual device' ? Bring on the hologram orgies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thanatos Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I use VR to escape my cluttered house, I don't need to have AR projecting fake crap top of my real crap! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Jesus Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 So, how long before this thing is marketed as a 'next level sexual device' ? Bring on the hologram orgies! I say.. brush up your Unity skills...and be the first: https://blogs.unity3d.com/2015/04/29/announcing-support-for-microsoft-hololens/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I say.. brush up your Unity skills...and be the first: https://blogs.unity3d.com/2015/04/29/announcing-support-for-microsoft-hololens/ I'm sure there's already hundreds in secret development already. $3000 is hardly going to help it spread to the masses. Kinda makes VR setups seem kinda cheap actually. Where I'm not able to afford a VR setup, I don't see this being on my radar regardless of what gets released for it. Where it's Microsoft I'm sure it phones home everything it can about you while it's at it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher5.0 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 That's awesome! Never heard of the hololens before this video. Thanks for introducing me to it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I could a swore this device released years ago and basically flopped on its ass. Did I miss something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Cool! I can finally play against Chewbacca! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN0T5tyJlo8 Try to pull my arms out of MY sockets, Wookie! I'm waitin' for ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I could a swore this device released years ago and basically flopped on its ass. Did I miss something? Not sure if it's been out that long but I know they've been talking about it for about as long as the VR setups have been around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Jesus Posted July 15, 2017 Author Share Posted July 15, 2017 I could a swore this device released years ago and basically flopped on its ass. Did I miss something? It's been in development for 8 years....and still isn't available at retail. Only way you can buy it if you are a developer or big corporate client like Boeing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 They'll sell it to anyone who will give them $3,000. You don't need to be a "big corporate client." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Still gotta wear funky VR headgear. And outside of the professional sector, it's a solution in search of a problem. It would be amusing to see all the mothering and technical fiddling needed to get something like this working, let alone make a video. I'm happy that it is the future, as long as it stays in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I remain unconvinced that VR is anything besides a neat gimmick, at least as far as pedestrian uses for it go. It may end up having a second life in the professional sector like Kinect (it's used for medical tech now), but I think the way tech companies are trying to push it as a consumer product is misguided. Yes. Absolutely. VR is useful and enhances certain select activities. And most all of them are professional and educational. Walmart bargain-bin VR is hopefully many years away. The industry has been trying to push VR on the consumer since the early 1990's. And some 25 years later they have yet to succeed. --- The Holmes Stereoscope.. Something like this is just as good, perhaps better, because you can take a moment to study the scenery and actually learn something. It doesn't fret and bounce around like an idiot trying to entertain itself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) Imagine playing a top down RTS like Command & Conquer or Warcraft 2...but on your actual kitchen table? That could be pretty damn cool. Or maybe a mix of D&D, where the DM has a top view on the table and the rooms and corridors...but the players see it in first person traditional VR? The possibilities are pretty amazing. That's just the thing with VR. Everything surrounding it seems cool. Can be cool. But all the restrictions and technicalities quickly turn it into an annoyance. So I say, "Convince me otherwise!" --- People are looking for the razzle-dazzle glitz and "cyber-power" that "hollywood VR" has. It's never going to be that way. And that's all consumer VR has going for it. Edited July 15, 2017 by Keatah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher5.0 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 After watching this a second time I have a question. When you are using the headset is your room part of the video or are you seeing it through the lenses? I hope for the later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Jesus Posted July 16, 2017 Author Share Posted July 16, 2017 After watching this a second time I have a question. When you are using the headset is your room part of the video or are you seeing it through the lenses? I hope for the later. What you see from my perspective is exactly how I see it with the headset. The only difference is my eyes saw everything in 3D and in a higher resolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) It would be the real room through real lens. Not video. The graphics from the computer are overlays, like a HUD in a jet fighter. Edited July 16, 2017 by Keatah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher5.0 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 What you see from my perspective is exactly how I see it with the headset. The only difference is my eyes saw everything in 3D and in a higher resolution. I meant only the room itself. Is the room video displayed on the screens or are you seeing it through the lenses and the computer is overlaying characters over it. It's kind of hard to describe this through text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Tarzilla Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 After watching this a second time I have a question. When you are using the headset is your room part of the video or are you seeing it through the lenses? I hope for the later.Imagine wearing sunglasses, the room you see is with your own eyes. All the computer generated objects and critters are projected onto the inside of the lens so you are seeing both the real world and the computer generated stuff, at a high frame rate, it is actually a way more immersive experience than other, regular vr setups since you aren't blind to the real world you are standing in. Hololens lets you record "what you see" or even just broadcast it, but it is at a lower resolution so no video can do justice to the hands on. Naysayers usually have never actually tried the Hololens and like to pick at it as if it is just another VR headset, but having used both, regular VR and Hololens are night and day. With Hololens you could recreate the Star Wars chess scene and still see and interact with the other people around the table, grab your beer etc....try doing that with the Oculus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Jesus Posted July 16, 2017 Author Share Posted July 16, 2017 I meant only the room itself. Is the room video displayed on the screens or are you seeing it through the lenses and the computer is overlaying characters over it. It's kind of hard to describe this through text. Oh you are referring to the 2nd camera? I had two additional cameras to capture me walking around the room and then I just added that in post in the corner to give people context Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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