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#1 TPR OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:39 PM

Just in case you aren't following the Opcode threads or for whatever reason you've missed all of the dates for the 4th run of the SGM, tomorrow is the last day to pre-order and you can do so here:

https://atariage.com...t_detail&p=1066

 

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#2 Rick Reynolds OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:20 AM

Sorry to be a dummy here, but I have one of the SGMs that came out in the 3rd run (I believe?). Is this the same hardware? I thought I read something about a new batch having more capability and that being the standard new games were going to be programmed towards. Is that right? I.e., do I need to get in on the 4th run to play newer homebrews that will soon be made?



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Posted Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:58 AM

Sorry to be a dummy here, but I have one of the SGMs that came out in the 3rd run (I believe?). Is this the same hardware? I thought I read something about a new batch having more capability and that being the standard new games were going to be programmed towards. Is that right? I.e., do I need to get in on the 4th run to play newer homebrews that will soon be made?



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If you have the 3rd run, the 4th is the same, just different packaging and an optional new shell type.



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Posted Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:00 AM

It would seem more logical to wait for the SGM 2 at this point.



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Posted Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:55 AM

It would seem more logical to wait for the SGM 2 at this point.

 

There is no SGM2, unless you're talking about the "Pro" which has been cancelled.  So this, IMO would not be the best advice.  ;)



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Posted Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:20 PM

I'd love to order but saving my money for the Intellixpander!

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Posted Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:28 PM

Neat device for Coleco fans.

 

So it's similar to those 'expansion pak' things for the N64, giving the system some added oomph?  



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Posted Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:07 PM

Neat device for Coleco fans.

 

So it's similar to those 'expansion pak' things for the N64, giving the system some added oomph?  

Yes, extra RAM that allows programmers more flexibility in game development and an additional sound chip which is more advanced than the TI sound chip in the CV/ADAM.

 

Combine the SGM with bank-switching cartridge PCBs with and without SaveRAM chips and cartridge based games for the CV & ADAM can really pack that extra OOMPH.



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Posted Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:28 PM

I'd love to order but saving my money for the Intellixpander!

 

If my memory is correct, I was reading about a prototype Intellvision adapter for the ColecoVision. I would love to own one of those adapters from Opcode if its released. I have never owned a Intellvision before. It is too bad Coleco never released the adapter, then people would have been able to play both Atari 2600 and Intellivision games.    


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Posted Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:39 PM

Neat device for Coleco fans.
 
So it's similar to those 'expansion pak' things for the N64, giving the system some added oomph?  

Many of the new games need it to run like almost all of them.
Will there be more runs of them. If they ever have a supply in stock for sale I might be interested as pre orders are not my thing. Maybe atariage will sell them someday?

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Posted Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:19 PM

Many of the new games need it to run like almost all of them.
Will there be more runs of them. If they ever have a supply in stock for sale I might be interested as pre orders are not my thing. Maybe atariage will sell them someday?

Opcode is working on a new platform to remove the need of all the failing colecovisions.  It will be backward compatible to all the coleco games as well as the SGM.  So even though you won't see anymore, you still will have the chance to buy something to give you the ability to play those games as long as that venture of a new platform doesn't go the way of vapor ware.

 

Also I believe a lot of people bought 2 SGMs to avoid problems if one failed.  Which means it is possible you will see these in the resale markets to be able to purchase.



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Posted Sat Aug 5, 2017 10:37 AM

Opcode is working on a new platform to remove the need of all the failing colecovisions.  It will be backward compatible to all the coleco games as well as the SGM.  So even though you won't see anymore, you still will have the chance to buy something to give you the ability to play those games as long as that venture of a new platform doesn't go the way of vapor ware.
 
Also I believe a lot of people bought 2 SGMs to avoid problems if one failed.  Which means it is possible you will see these in the resale markets to be able to purchase.

Are that many CVs really failing beyond repair?

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Posted Sat Aug 5, 2017 4:18 PM

Are that many CVs really failing beyond repair?

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The 1982 ColecoVision is now 35 years old, and the 1983 ADAM computer is 34 years old. After 35 years anything can break. Its amazing that some people are using their original ColecoVision and ADAM with no problems. However in the last 35 years many people have had their systems break, and since they no longer manufacture key electronic components to repair them, one is sometimes forced to find two or three broken ColecoVisions or ADAM computers and use the parts from 2 or 3 units to get one working again.

 

Many people get tired of their old 35 year old equipment and end up downloading a free ColecoVision/ADAM emulator for their PC. Hopefully a 40 year anniversary ColecoVision II will be released. It is needed for existing fans and future fans that want to play their games on a real console instead of using a modern PC or Smartphone with emulator.    


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Posted Sun Aug 6, 2017 12:35 AM

Are that many CVs really failing beyond repair?

 

Yes. I had one from years ago that quit working, so I got another a few years back.  It also got flaky so I got another one that would flake out after being on for a few minutes.  So I got another one, and so on.  I now have 6 Colecos and none of them work properly.  I bought a DINA thinking it would be a solution for playing my games but it won't play a lot of homebrews.  This past January I bought 2 ADAMs hoping to have a good solution for playing my Coleco games (only 1 of them works properly), but at the time I didn't realize I'd have to use the printer to power it, so I've not had room to set it up since then.

 

I'm really looking forward to a reliable way to play my Coleco games.  I have a pretty sizable collection of cartridges and homebrews and right now, my best Coleco works kinda hit 'n' miss.

 

One of these days I'll probably look into paying someone to give them a good looking at to fix whatever the issue(s) are.  I'd do it myself, but I just don't have the time anymore (which is why I kept buying more hoping to get one that worked) so it would be worth it to pay someone else.



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Posted Sun Aug 6, 2017 6:17 AM

Yes. I had one from years ago that quit working, so I got another a few years back.  It also got flaky so I got another one that would flake out after being on for a few minutes.  So I got another one, and so on.  I now have 6 Colecos and none of them work properly.  I bought a DINA thinking it would be a solution for playing my games but it won't play a lot of homebrews.  This past January I bought 2 ADAMs hoping to have a good solution for playing my Coleco games (only 1 of them works properly), but at the time I didn't realize I'd have to use the printer to power it, so I've not had room to set it up since then.
 
I'm really looking forward to a reliable way to play my Coleco games.  I have a pretty sizable collection of cartridges and homebrews and right now, my best Coleco works kinda hit 'n' miss.
 
One of these days I'll probably look into paying someone to give them a good looking at to fix whatever the issue(s) are.  I'd do it myself, but I just don't have the time anymore (which is why I kept buying more hoping to get one that worked) so it would be worth it to pay someone else.


Just promise us you'll keep those 6 broken ColecoVisions for as long as you can. If someone in our community finally manages to finish a modern drop-in replacement motherboard, you'll be able to donate your consoles to have their electronics replaced, and then I'm sure those consoles will find good homes. :)

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Posted Sun Aug 6, 2017 9:03 AM

 
Yes. I had one from years ago that quit working, so I got another a few years back.  It also got flaky so I got another one that would flake out after being on for a few minutes.  So I got another one, and so on.  I now have 6 Colecos and none of them work properly.  I bought a DINA thinking it would be a solution for playing my games but it won't play a lot of homebrews.  This past January I bought 2 ADAMs hoping to have a good solution for playing my Coleco games (only 1 of them works properly), but at the time I didn't realize I'd have to use the printer to power it, so I've not had room to set it up since then.
 
I'm really looking forward to a reliable way to play my Coleco games.  I have a pretty sizable collection of cartridges and homebrews and right now, my best Coleco works kinda hit 'n' miss.
 
One of these days I'll probably look into paying someone to give them a good looking at to fix whatever the issue(s) are.  I'd do it myself, but I just don't have the time anymore (which is why I kept buying more hoping to get one that worked) so it would be worth it to pay someone else.

Are any or them for sale? Mine didn't work either after sitting 20 years, so I rebuilt the power supply and am in the process of upgrading the power switch since I screwed it up cleaning it. That's why I specified beyond repair, most of their problems are pretty easily addressed.

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Posted Sun Aug 6, 2017 9:05 AM

Just promise us you'll keep those 6 broken ColecoVisions for as long as you can. If someone in our community finally manages to finish a modern drop-in replacement motherboard, you'll be able to donate your consoles to have their electronics replaced, and then I'm sure those consoles will find good homes. :)

If he's gonna a donate, just donate to someone that likes fixing them. They're pretty easy to work on with basic skills.

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Posted Sun Aug 6, 2017 12:09 PM

For those that have an ADAM computer. If your printer does not work anymore and you do not want to use the ADAM printer anymore, many people back in the 80’s would remove the Coleco power supply from the ADAM printer and trash the printer and keep on using the small printer power supply to power the ADAM computer. Technically one can also connect a Laser printer to the ADAM if they have a third party hardware device.

 

I like the idea of a third party drop in motherboard replacement for the ColecoVision. However if these replacement motherboards are going to be manufactured in China using high quality surface mount components, then how much more would it cost to have China place a black plastic case around the motherboard and call the game console a ColecoVision II?

 

Has anyone tried to use a real ColecoVision hand controller on a Windows PC with an emulation program? In addition, it should be possible to make an external cartridge slot with a USB plug on the other end. Then with an emulation software be able to read the rom image on a PC. Its possible today to make a ColecoVision II that uses Linux with a modern miniature PC, and as long as the game system has a ColecoVision cartridge slot and a black ColecoVision plastic case, no one would know that they really are playing on a Linux platform using emulation software.  


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Posted Sun Aug 6, 2017 12:54 PM

For those that have an ADAM computer. If your printer does not work anymore and you do not want to use the ADAM printer anymore, many people back in the 80’s would remove the Coleco power supply from the ADAM printer and trash the printer and keep on using the small printer power supply to power the ADAM computer. Technically one can also connect a Laser printer to the ADAM if they have a third party hardware device.
 
I like the idea of a third party drop in motherboard replacement for the ColecoVision. However if these replacement motherboards are going to be manufactured in China using high quality surface mount components, then how much more would it cost to have China place a black plastic case around the motherboard and call the game console a ColecoVision II?
 
Has anyone tried to use a real ColecoVision hand controller on a Windows PC with an emulation program? In addition, it should be possible to make an external cartridge slot with a USB plug on the other end. Then with an emulation software be able to read the rom image on a PC. Its possible today to make a ColecoVision II that uses Linux with a modern miniature PC, and as long as the game system has a ColecoVision cartridge slot and a black ColecoVision plastic case, no one would know that they really are playing on a Linux platform using emulation software.  

Agreed. If you're going through the trouble of an all new board, just make a new console. Otherwise you just encourage the destruction of original, most likely repairable motherboards and badtardized cases. Commodore 64 is going through the same sort of thing right now.

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