Serguei2 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I first thought Nintendo would drop 3DS when it dropped Wii-U with the release of Switch but I noted a new New 2D XL is released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 They're releasing a bunch of new games for it this year, too. Not dead yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperofLindblum Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I don't think the 3DS is dead yet, but I've heard they have stopped production on the New 3DS LL. I bet they are going to slowly ramp down production, and by next year we will be seeing some of the last of the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Gull Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I would imagine they are done pushing that one with the Switch out and such. They would probably gear towards making that the ultimate console both portable and stationary. Still though the 3DS has amassed a good library and I would wonder if developers might still make games for it even if Nintendo stops making the units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 It's basically a zombie system. Nintendo has no real reason to outright kill it as long as it's making money, but there's not a lot of active support going on at this point. Nintendo kept the Famicom in production until 2003, which is something I think a lot of people don't realize. But you wouldn't really call it a "current" system after the Super Famicom's release. It's similar to what Sony's done with the PS One and PS2, although those systems didn't last quite as long. In Japan especially, the 3DS is still being marketed more as a kids' system. I was just there last month and almost all the ads I saw featured little kids. So I think they're positioning the Switch as the more adult system with the 3DS a lower-cost yet tougher option for parents to buy their kids. That's also pretty common when systems are really at the end of their lifespans and the manufacturer's just trying to wring a few more years out of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serguei2 Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 (edited) I would imagine they are done pushing that one with the Switch out and such. They would probably gear towards making that the ultimate console both portable and stationary. Still though the 3DS has amassed a good library and I would wonder if developers might still make games for it even if Nintendo stops making the units. I disagree: when a system is no more supported by its owner, companies stop making games for obvious reasons and stores start selling defunct systems and games at lower price to clear their stocks. Edited July 28, 2017 by Serguei2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I agree with the other comments. I've said that the 3DS/2DS is now just Nintendo letting the clock run out on its own, particularly since the Switch has proven to be a success. Considering the different mobile environment it's had to compete in versus its predecessors, the 3DS has had a good run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Yes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Gull Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I disagree: when a system is no more supported by its owner, companies stop making games for obvious reasons and stores start selling defunct systems and games at lower price to clear their stocks. That may be true but even when the Wii stopped production new game became available from software folks. I would be the number and quality of games would decrease. Not not true with all systems but sometimes there are games so far in development that it would not pay to recode them and so off they go to the no longer made system. Crap Brazil is still making Master System games I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 As long as it keeps pushing the numbers it does, or even a fraction of them where it's profitable they won't kill it... unless they can tangibly prove it's hurting Switch sales then it's on ice. In tandem, third parties will still need to shove out a steady stream collectively of games throughout the year so people are confident to keep buying the unit as well because if there's nothing to keep it on the shelf then their space will minimize and disappear which would slam the door shut too. At the earliest I wouldn't be surprised if it made it into and throughout 2018, probably done for the year after as there's solid stuff on the books still. Nintendo will likely just let this one roll out to extinction as the market deems (makers/game buyers) is not necessary to keep around any further. As the old dumb saying goes 'it prints money' and until it doesn't they have no reason to kill a revenue source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDTAY Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 With Culdcept Revolt and Etrian Odyssey V still on the horizon, 3DS looks good through the end of this year, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTIGuy Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) Yeah , but wait a year or too and it may not be. (I feel i am NEVER gonna get one!) Edited August 5, 2017 by TheTIGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karyyk Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I still feel like the Switch is a lot different than a dedicated portable (battery life and motion controls being the two of the big reasons why). If Nintendo abandons the 3DS in the short-term (which I doubt), then it's got a lot more to do with market changes in portable gaming that we've been seeing for years (phones and tablets largely taking that space) than the Switch actually replacing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serguei2 Posted August 5, 2017 Author Share Posted August 5, 2017 That may be true but even when the Wii stopped production new game became available from software folks. I would be the number and quality of games would decrease. Not not true with all systems but sometimes there are games so far in development that it would not pay to recode them and so off they go to the no longer made system. Crap Brazil is still making Master System games I think. I don't think retail shops would sell new wii games unless you're talking online shops like Atariage. I still feel like the Switch is a lot different than a dedicated portable (battery life and motion controls being the two of the big reasons why). If Nintendo abandons the 3DS in the short-term (which I doubt), then it's got a lot more to do with market changes in portable gaming that we've been seeing for years (phones and tablets largely taking that space) than the Switch actually replacing it. If Nintendo abandons the 3DS, do you think Nintendo will release a new portable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) You'd be mistaken then. Walk into any Wal-Mart in this country and you'll see new Wii games available. And we're not just talking reprintings, either. Just Dance 2017 from last October is widely available and sold well on the Wii (I believe I read just the other day here on AtariAge that last year's Wii iteration broke a million units sold). And Just Dance 2018 is on the docket for a Wii release this upcoming October. And a new dedicated portable would run contrary to what the entire goal of the Switch was. One next-gen Nintendo platform to sell to your entire customer base, one system to develop games for, and each release that appears can be sold to every next-gen Nintendo owner rather than just a portion of it like in years past with separate hardware lines. If they feel like it's not portable enough, I'd expect a Switch Lite to appear down the road that might tailor this to be a bit more suitable for use as a portable. But with how popular tablets seem to be and large screen cell phones, I'm not so sure it's a market they feel the need to pursue. Look how half hearted they supported the regular New 3DS for example, with the focus squarely on the XL version that wasn't exactly pocket friendly. If they wanted a pocket friendly portable so badly that it served as the impetus to keeping the 3DS line alive and kicking, I would've expected the XL models to have hit the road by now with only the most portable version remaining available. Yet the exact opposite has happened with the 3DS line. Edited August 5, 2017 by Atariboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serguei2 Posted August 5, 2017 Author Share Posted August 5, 2017 You're talking about Wii-U, right? Not Wii. It's a long time I don't see Wii sections in stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) Nope, I'm talking Wii. You don't have to look far in US Wal-Mart's to see Nintendo Selects rereleases from last year like Super Mario All-Stars and Super Mario Galaxy, Just Dance titles, etc. Here's even a Wii game up for preorder at Wal-Mart Canada. https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/just-dance-2018-wii/6000197277424?rrid=richrelevance Edited August 5, 2017 by Atariboy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serguei2 Posted August 5, 2017 Author Share Posted August 5, 2017 Sorry. I don't see any Wii games lately. Maybe in bigger cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+atari2600land Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 "Now that the Nintendo Switch is out"... yeah, but the fact is, you can't go out and get one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltigro Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I did finally see my first switch in the wilds of a rural Texas WalMart about two weeks ago. They're out there, but not very common. And I hope 3DS is gonna be around for a bit longer. Was thinking of getting New 2DSs for the kids this Christmas... (and one for me, too.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 They've been consistently in stock at the Wal-Mart here for the past month or so. I think for a lot of people, they check two or three online retailers and can't place an order right then and there, and assume they're extremely hard to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karyyk Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) I don't think retail shops would sell new wii games unless you're talking online shops like Atariage. If Nintendo abandons the 3DS, do you think Nintendo will release a new portable? That's a hard one to answer. If they don't release a follow-up, then I see Nintendo expanding their presence on other portable platforms (Android and iOS, basically). If they don't do that, then they'll almost certainly have a follow-up to the 3DS. There's a big difference in the pricing and market space of the 3DS/2DS and that of the Switch, especially when it comes to kids (many of which aren't old enough to have phones). My girls all have 2DS systems and play them regularly, something that simply isn't going to happen with the Switch at $300 a pop? How many families will own multiple Switches? I don't really see that happening. Whether or not Nintendo ignores that established market is a good question that's probably better left to analysts, although it's interesting to remember that a lot of analysts proclaimed the portable market dead already (thanks to the rise of smartphones and tablets). With the 3DS "family" closing in on 70 million units by the end of the year (I'm planning on buying a 2DS XL for myself), I think there's still a market there. I have yet to see a Switch in the wild myself (and I look any time I'm in a store that would sell them). Maybe I'm just going at the wrong time, but to date, not a single one. Wii games...those I do see. Edited August 5, 2017 by Karyyk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serguei2 Posted August 5, 2017 Author Share Posted August 5, 2017 The price of any consoles will drop over the time. It always happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 The price of any consoles will drop over the time. It always happens. Not necessarily always. The Wii U never did. The cost to make it was just too much. They should have a little wiggle room with the Switch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Oh there's wiggle room considering it's a custom tegra x1 chip, the 2017 version used in those 4k shield(console) tv units pretty much. Yes those joycons have some good parts in there that add up, but not that high they're not making some money off the top. Lately I've been thinking it maybe time to put the New3DSXL out to pasture along with my dozen or so games. I haven't used it in a long while and other than the upcoming Metroid i'm not so sure I would. Cave Story I can do on switch, the castlevania game on steam, and more or less the rest have a version elsewhere or I'm basically over replaying the stuff. I basically faced facts, my home is a gameboy family of handhelds home for both me and my little girl too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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