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The Last Undumped Game: 3D Attack Emerson Arcadia 2001/Gig Leonardo


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#1 Blazing Lazers OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:49 AM

The only undumped Arcadia game is 3D Attack, a Zaxxon (!) clone that is only known to have had a very small retail release for just one of the various Arcadia systems, the Leonardo by Gig, and only in Italy. Only around 5 copies at all are known to still exist, and the game itself, along with the boxes, manuals, etc, has never been properly preserved via a ROM dump and scanning. None of the multicarts have it included in their game selections. Beyond being phenomenally rare, this also happens to be a shmup AND apparently both a graphics AND gameplay showcase for the Arcadia system, as well as a platform exclusive- exactly the sort of game that truly earns system library Grail status. Even many web resources still list this titles as "unconfirmed". It exists, and needs to be dumped and preserved. The entire purpose of this thread is to do just that.

 

The supreme global Arcadia collector (a very knowledgeable gentleman from Europe, not somebody here in the US) recently had his complete copy available for sale, and I purchased it as soon as I knew. It's the same copy that was just on Ebay, and is also the source of the various images from Pinterest. I just took delivery of it, and want to get this dumped as soon as possible, so it can be played in emulators and ideally added to future multicart runs. So in order to get this dumped, I'd like to solicit help on the following:

 

  1. Above all else, who has an Arcadia series cart ROM dumper, and can it be sent to me to accomplish this? Would we have to make a new dumper? I'm especially interested in any technical advice along this line.
  2. Will this cart work in a US Arcadia 2001 system? I haven't yet tested it out of paranoia about damaging the cart. I'd to at least capture some gameplay footage.
  3. Can anybody here translate Italian? It's what the manual is all in- makes it somewhat difficult to play, or will once the ROM is dumped.
  4. What is the best Arcadia emulator out there, as of 2017? Thanks to the multicarts I've never actually needed to play around with any, though I will need to now so as to test whatever dumps are made.

I've attached pics of everything, and plan to scan the manual soon. I hope there'll at least be some minor interest in this, and that 3D Attack can finally be preserved for all!

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#2 stupus ONLINE  

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Posted Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:32 AM

It can be played on a USA emerson.

#3 Blazing Lazers OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:35 AM

It can be played on a USA emerson.

 Ah good! There'll be some gameplay footage soon, then :)



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Posted Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:59 AM

Amazing. So was this meant for release in the US since the back label, overlay, and box are in English?? Terrific find, Jack!

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Posted Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:16 PM

Amazing. So was this meant for release in the US since the back label, overlay, and box are in English?? Terrific find, Jack!

I would say at 1 point it and many more titles were planned for release in the USA by emerson.
After UAL (Universal Appliances Limited) got sued for games like their defender and pac man clone titles they pulled any other clone games from a potential release in the usa. But still sold them in other regions where us law didn't apply.
There were 41 silver box games they made total and probably most besides the 4 Bandai games were probably planned to hit our market if it were not for the lawsuits and that the system did horribly here.
I believe there may be a release of this under the home arcade name too. I need to double check with 1 collector friend to be sure.
That would make sense as 'home arcade' was UAL's own line for the system. But all the home arcade titles are very hard to find at all.

Edited by stupus, Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:16 PM.


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Posted Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:51 PM

Unless I'm wrong, all boxes of this family are in English regardless of the location.

French ones have a dual display, with English on some parts of the box and French on other parts.

They are under the Home Arcade label, BTW.

Advision Home Arcade.

 

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The carts have a dent on one side and a bump on the other end, but aside from that, the carts are identical to US ones (I have one multicart).

 

Is there a topic about this system, with more infos? That's the first time I heard that Home Arcade as a label.


Edited by CatPix, Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:07 PM.


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Posted Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:24 PM

The silver box games are usually english. But the Leonardo ones usually have Italian on the back. Like you can see this 3d attack does.
They came with both an English and Italian manual.
You can see though the instructions on the box back is a applied sticker.
Which could mean a correction or language change possibly.
I will have to pull out my copy and see if it's the same.

Yes home arcade gets confusing.
Catpix your games are actually the advision home arcade ones. They are a french exclusive release with hybrid french/English boxes.

There is a separate line just called home arcade which is ual's original line I believe.
These are in English only and have a different number scheme from the advision ones.

It seems some company's that distributed ual's console and games chose to keep some of the home arcade name in their own name.
Like advision home arcade or
Tunix home arcade.
Also ual put out its own home arcade branded consoles in an ntsc and a pal format.
These are very hard to find but I believe them to be the actual parent version for this system.....not emerson of course.

Also certain pal systems game lines had the dent and Ridge on the sides of the cart like catpix mentions.
This was a horribly implimented region lock out.

These still will fit in the emerson and other ntsc systems.
They work fine they just fit tightly.

Edited by stupus, Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:24 PM.


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Posted Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:22 PM

Awesome find  :-o  :-o  :-o !!!

Of course... please send me the manual scan and I'll translate it for you  :thumbsup:

 

 

Cheers,

 

Marco



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Posted Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:49 AM

Great!

 

Send an e-mail to amigansoftware@gmail.com for info about dumping this rarity.

 

The Arcadia emulator was just updated last month (10th july 2017)

http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/

 

Here it is in 3D Attack in "unarchived" section:

http://amigan.1emu.net/agg/#unarchived

 

Emerson Arcadia 2001 Central (world's largest and most popular Signetics-based machines site) 

http://amigan.1emu.net/

 



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Posted Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:56 AM

I believe James will need you to send him the cart to get it dumped.

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Posted Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:02 AM

I just looked at the unarchived section at the amigan.
I believe that 3d raceway is just autorennen/Monaco grand prix by palladium.
I believe the 3d raceway name is just the working title for its unreleased variant by hanimex.

#12 Blazing Lazers OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:38 AM

I believe James will need you to send him the cart to get it dumped.


Ideally, a dumper would be sent to me. This cart has already crossed an Ocean to get here. It's really not something I'd like to ship unless all other options were exhausted. Fortunately, somebody may be able make and send me a dumped soon. Still waiting to hear back from a few contacts.

Edited by Blazing Lazers, Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:38 AM.


#13 macdlsa OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:11 AM

Hey Jack !

Carlo owns several (boxed) console, cartridges, computers and rarities at all, and he's a good friend of mine.
If we knew that dump-matter before...
😢

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Posted Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:32 AM

Wow, I didn't think this one existed.   I always assumed it was an alternative name for a game that we already knew about.  I can't wait to see this one dumped.



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Posted Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:07 AM

Very cool BL!  Grats on the game and thanks for making it available for the rest of us!  I'm eager to see it in action.



#16 Bill Loguidice OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:00 PM

Neat. I REALLY want to see footage of the game!



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Posted Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:57 PM

In the mean time, here are some screenshots:

http://www.classic-c...dia-games#p1242



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Posted Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:03 PM

I really need to get my consoel working again (the RF block is botched) I love those "wire" graphisms.



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Posted Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:32 PM

I just emailed my friend Jens who was the original finder of a 3d attack.
His is the copy from the forum carlsoon linked too.

I am very curious if his is the Leonardo version or possibly the advision or home arcade that I have seen it listed as on James amigan sute.

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Posted Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:37 PM

In the mean time, here are some screenshots:

http://www.classic-c...dia-games#p1242

 

Nice. I'm not that impressed from the screenshots, but then those can be misleading.



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Posted Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:21 PM

If they are smooth scrolling, it would be impressive.

It's hard to say for sure what is "impressive" with the Arcadia 2001 in general :D



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Posted Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:50 PM

BTW, I'm sending Blazing Lazers a ROM dumper (made from a hacked multicart board and EPROM programmer), so the file can be shared.

 

Hopefully in a few weeks we'll have a ROM file to play (and another game included on multicarts). ;)



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Posted Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:52 PM

Excellent!

It might be time to create a flash cart XD






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