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#1 sm3 OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:54 PM

Not sure if anyone else has been waiting for this, but the folks from 8bitgeneration have released Easy to Learn, Hard to Master: The Fate of Atari

 

I removed my Amazon links since they had the wrong video. Please see my next post.



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Posted Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:02 PM

I'd hold off on buying it, I just bought it from Amazon US and it appears to be another video, not related to Atari...be warned!

 

Sorry! Must be some Amazon mixup.

 

Update: I got a refund from Amazon and purchased a copy from Vimeo. I have verified this is the correct video showing ;)

 

http://www.8bitgener....com/shopintro/



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Posted Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:20 PM

Well, after watching it, I'm kind of disappointed. It was all about the arcade machines and the 2600, nothing about the 400, 800 or any of the other computer models.



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Posted Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:48 PM

Ugh, bought it and got some terrible documentary movie too. I'm sure it'll be fixed soon. 



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Posted Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:16 PM

Ugh, bought it and got some terrible documentary movie too. I'm sure it'll be fixed soon. 

 

Well, I can vouch for the Vimeo version being correct. Fortunately Amazon is good about refunds, you have to figure out how to actually contact them to ask for the refund ;)

 

The video was good, for what it was, but with nothing about the 400, 800 etc... I was looking for a refund button on Vimeo as well.



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Posted Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:35 PM

The link on the website for Amazon goes to Amazon UK.



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Posted Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:40 PM

The link on the website for Amazon goes to Amazon UK.

 

Right, I searched for it on the US Amazon website and that's where I purchased a copy from and got some other video.



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Posted Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:54 AM

Does Vimeo take paypal? I don't want to have to join just to find out I can't buy it there anyway.



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Posted Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:59 AM

Looks like it's also available on iTunes, but costs several dollars more.



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Posted Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:14 PM

Yes, Vimeo accepts PayPal.



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Posted Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:46 PM

Yes, Vimeo accepts PayPal.

Cool, thanks for the info.



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Posted Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:46 PM

Finally saw this on Amazon ($1.99).  It's a good watch, but it is solely a 2600 documentary.  Absolutely no mention of the 8-bit computers.  A little irritating as the documentary several time mentions that Atari needed a VCS II, but neglects to mention the existence of the 400/800. The only good decision Ray Kassar made, but was too incompetent to market.  Still don't understand how the losses could pile up that fast during the crash.  I wish they spent more time describing how the fall (financially) happened so fast.  It blames bad games, but Manny Gerard and Nolan Bushnell elude to the fact the the market was saturated.  Everyone who wanted a VCS bought one and the phenomenal growth could not be sustained.  The technology of the 2600 was limited and the 400/800 could have solved Atari's issues if hey had marketed it correctly or pushed the 5200 out sooner (like 1981).

 

Someone on AA mentioned that the 400/800 was Atari's last good decision and it appears to have been a complete accident.  So true.


Edited by ACML, Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:50 PM.


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Posted Thu Oct 5, 2017 3:57 PM

Not very happy with this one. On the plus side, it has interviews with Ray Kassar and Manny Gerard. But the editing is terrible. The camera shakes, the camera zooms uncontrollably, the frames switch many times per second. I actually had to close my eyes part of the time and just listen. It has good material, but the presentation is lousy.



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Posted Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:08 AM

They at least show pictures of 400/800.

 

I'm watching it now.

 

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Posted Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:28 AM

I watched it recently at no (extra) charge on Amazon Prime.  I thought it was worthwhile.  There are a lot of bits that repeat what has been covered before in other documentaries, interviews, etc., but there were certainly things I didn't know before watching.  It is sad to think, that if Warner had just bought Atari and provided the financing and marketing reach they had the power to provide and left the company to do what it did best, Atari likely would have stayed at the top of the market and made both companies a lot more money over time.  Instead, Warner was trying to "get rich quick" and shot themselves in the foot, so to speak.  



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Posted Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:53 AM

Let me guess...film makers were like "You mean Atari made computers and not just crappy 2600 games?? Nah..."

 

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Posted Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:17 PM

I found it to be informative and somewhat interesting, but it was 2600 centric with only a couple of pics of the 400/800. It could have been so much better.






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