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#26 TPR OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:24 AM

So if the thread never mentioned the word “Wafer Drive” and if an authorized ATARIMAX product did not have a custom label on it with the words “Wafer Drive” on it, then everyone would be happy?  

 

If the answer to that question is yes, then don’t purchase the product. ATARIMAX can always discontinue the label and exiting cartridges can be relabeled without the words “Wafer Drive”. However regardless of what the product is called, it functions exactly the same.    

 

Hey pal - Don't get all obnoxious with respected members of this community because someone figured out your scam.  That's not the kind of attitude we welcome here. 



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Posted Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:30 AM

 

Hey pal - Don't get all obnoxious with respected members of this community because someone figured out your scam.  That's not the kind of attitude we welcome here. 

There is no dishonest scheme or fraud occurring. Your posts are kind of funny. Maybe I should recommend to ATARIMAX that the Wafer Drive should be sold on the Walmart website and other websites.  



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Posted Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:33 AM

There is no dishonest scheme or fraud occurring. Your posts are kind of funny. Maybe I should recommend to ATARIMAX that the Wafer Drive should be sold on the Walmart website and other websites.  

 

Ok, now you're just being rude to a moderator for no reason other than people figured out your scam and called you on it.  As I said before, had you just been HONEST with what you are selling (and you still refuse to admit those are your stores for some reason) none of this discussion would be taking place. Instead, you might be seeing some sales of the products you are selling.  So please do not come here and be obnoxious towards members of this community or the moderators because you got caught being scammy with items you have for sale.

 

And in case you missed why I feel your original post is scammy:

 

 

This is why I feel this entire post is scammy:

 

 - The original poster does not disclose that the storefronts on eBay and Amazon are theirs. (And I apologize if this turns out to be not the case)

 - The original poster seemed to be in the know about this item since 2010, but is trying to imply that it's a new product or a revised version of an old product in 2017

 - The original poster is trying to convince people that this is "development tool" when it is really just the AtariMax Ultimate SD cart with a different label

 

If you are interested in an AtariMax Ultimate SD Cart I suggest buying it from the source: https://www.atarimax.com/



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Posted Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:39 AM

 

However regardless of what the product is called, it functions exactly the same.    

 

I don't fault people for being careful, since there have been instances of people being scammed on the Internet.  Fellow AtariAger's are just looking out for their gaming buddies.

 

That being said, if there are still gamer's in 30 years, that cartridge label might make it more "rare" and interesting (expensive) for a rabid collector!   :P



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Posted Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:59 AM

 However regardless of what the product is called, it functions exactly the same.    

...then why even bother with the new label?

 

If someone (whether they have the permission of the person that makes the Atarimax Ultimate SD Cartridge or not) comes out with a re-labeled "AtariMax Ultimate SD Cracker Drive" we'd all be just as incredulous.

 

You also refer to the AtariMax Ultimate SD in these terms (emphasis mine): 

 

 also known as Ultimate SD cartridge on its old style label name

 

Referring to an existing product, still readily available from the original producer at http://atarimax.com/ , as the "old style", when the creator of the Ultimate SD makes no mention on his site of the NEW name nor you as an official flag waver of the NEW name is also an issue.

 

It simply looks like you bought huge quantities and are trying to make it appear as a new or different product so you get some sales.



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Posted Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:37 AM

Referring to an existing product, still readily available from the original producer at http://atarimax.com/ , as the "old style", when the creator of the Ultimate SD makes no mention on his site of the NEW name nor you as an official flag waver of the NEW name is also an issue.

 

It simply looks like you bought huge quantities and are trying to make it appear as a new or different product so you get some sales.

 

This exactly.  Maybe it's not quite a "scam" in the true definition of the word, but it's most certainly not being completely "honest" either.  Just buy your AtariMax SD Cart from the source.  Why even bother buying from a middleman?



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Posted Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:58 PM

OEM's have been multi-branding things for decades.  Mostly the same inside, but with variations in enclosures, packaging and brand label.. in this case just a label. :roll:    ---  Well, pro or con if this gets into the hands of more hobbyists, the more the merrier.



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Posted Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:52 PM

If someone (whether they have the permission of the person that makes the Atarimax Ultimate SD Cartridge or not) comes out with a re-labeled "AtariMax Ultimate SD Cracker Drive" we'd all be just as incredulous.

 

Please call me when the Cracker Drive becomes available.



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Posted Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:17 PM

Please call me when the Cracker Drive becomes available.

I don't have your phone number, how about a PM?

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Posted Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:43 PM

In related news, for your Wafer based enjoyment/horror

http://atariage.com/...-storage-space/

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Posted Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:34 PM

In related news, for your Wafer based enjoyment/horror

http://atariage.com/...-storage-space/

 

Well at least we aren't alone in this guy's pseudo-scam and the 5200 community seems to be equally as confused/annoyed with it.



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Posted Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:41 PM

I think all posts in this thread need to be larger.



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Posted Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:00 PM

Did the guy manage to unload all of his wafers?

If not I heard Cardillo may be looking to some fresh, new, original :roll: tech for the Coleco brand, after the expo debacle he really needs something  fresh, new, original  :roll: to wow the crowds.



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Posted Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:51 PM

It’s too bad no company makes a BD-ROM drive attachment for classic 8-bit videogame systems, like one finds on modern videogame systems.

 

USB flash sticks and SD cards have an estimated life span of around 10 years for some brands. 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs up to 100GB and BDXL Blu-ray discs up to 128GB can last up to 1,000 years (Also optical discs are 100% immune to EMP’s, EMI, and RFI).

The latest videogame system like the Microsoft Xbox One X and S have a built in 100GB BD-ROM drive. Even the older Sony Playststation 3 and 4 use 50GB BD-ROM drives since optical discs are cheaper and more reliable compared to SD flash media. Blank recordable 50GB dual layer Blu-ray discs cost around $3.95 each and blank 25GB single layer Blu-ray discs cost around $0.79 each. Much cheaper than a 32GB SDHC card for slightly under $10. For large videogame production professional factory stamped Blu-ray discs most likely run around 25 cents each.

 

I guess there is no plans to make an optical drive for any of the 8-bit classic videogame systems or 8-bit computer systems.     



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Posted Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:51 PM

It’s too bad no company makes a BD-ROM drive attachment for classic 8-bit videogame systems, like one finds on modern videogame systems.

 

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I guess there is no plans to make an optical drive for any of the 8-bit classic videogame systems or 8-bit computer systems.     

You used the same sentences/paragraphs on the 5200 forum post ..... are you a bot of some sort?

 

It's a blessing they don't do it, it would make zero economic sense and nobody that cares would buy it ... as the stockpile of your "wafers" shows.

 

Seriously call Cardillo (you can find his phone number on the "Castle, the windows people" website) and see if he is interested .... he may actually buy them all.



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Posted Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:22 PM

It’s too bad no company makes a BD-ROM drive attachment for classic 8-bit videogame systems, like one finds on modern videogame systems.

 

USB flash sticks and SD cards have an estimated life span of around 10 years for some brands. 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs up to 100GB and BDXL Blu-ray discs up to 128GB can last up to 1,000 years (Also optical discs are 100% immune to EMP’s, EMI, and RFI).

Optical disks are NOT 100% immune to rot or adhesive breakdown. I already have Commercially pressed CD's and DVD's rotting or separated, lets not forget CDRs and DVDR+-  that are even more susceptible.



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Posted Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:54 AM

Optical disks are NOT 100% immune to rot or adhesive breakdown. I already have Commercially pressed CD's and DVD's rotting or separated, lets not forget CDRs and DVDR+-  that are even more susceptible.

            There are some very cheap generic brand of optical discs that are very bad quality and because of impurities in the water or other issues in manufacturing, they might fail in 10 years, but that is very rare (both commercially stamped optical discs and recordable discs). Yes commercially stamped optical discs can last longer then the average recordable disc (1,000+ years). The higher quality name brand CD-R’s, DVD-R, and BD-R, generally last around 100 years using estimated age estimates and lab test to simulate old age. However, the latest DVD-R, and BD-R discs from several different companies claim life spans of around 1,000 years. The optical drive will most likely break in 50 to 100 years. However, placing a 128GB BDXL Blu-ray disc in a time capsule has the potential to last up to 1,000 years. Many hard drives last up to 5 years and many flash drives last up to 8 years.

https://www.slashgear.com/millenniatas-25gb-blu-ray-m-disc-has-1000-year-lifespan-06285189/


Edited by HDTV1080P, Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:57 AM.


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Posted Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:44 AM

The ATARIMAX products including the Ultimate SD Wafer Drive has a lifetime warranty from ATARIMAX. However according to the SD Association, the actual SD card lasts 10 years or more. In theory write cycles last up to 100,000 times or more depending on the brand and model of SD card. However, some brands and models of SD cards offer a lifetime warranty and in theory can last just as long or longer then some game cartridges.

 

SD Association states that a memory card lifespan depends on how it is manufactured. They say that the current technology, along with normal usage, typically gives the card a lifespan of 10 years or more.”

http://dmimaging.net/memory-card-lifespan/



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Posted Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:06 AM

I think I'm OK with taking my chances with SD cards and their variants over having the bulk and relatively fragility of a moving parts optical drive.

 

The life expectancy thing is usually overblown anyway. Supposedly all of our floppy disks weren't supposed to make it out of the 80s, but I still have stuff almost 40 years on that still runs fine.

 

Anyway, if a card happens to go kaput, it's easy enough to get a new one for a few bucks and re-load it. This is not mission-critical fare we're talking about here.



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Posted Sun Mar 4, 2018 6:15 PM

Finding my cart useless as I can't find the setup files anywhere....



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Posted Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:24 PM

Finding my cart useless as I can't find the setup files anywhere....

 

Firmware with Recovery Instructions

&

Firmware with Upgrade Instructions

 

Note: Applied (firmware) files are the same for both linked archives. 

The only difference is whether Recovery or Upgrade instructions are needed.



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Posted Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:26 PM

PERFECT.. thank you






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