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#1 Polybius OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:52 PM

I am looking at a Coleco Gemini system, just the system, no controllers (although I have some), no plugs or cords, seller doesn't know if it works. He wants $39 for it.

Should I buy it, is it a good price for one? I dunno on this.

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Posted Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:15 PM

Oh god no! 



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Posted Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:18 AM

If you chanced upon a Coleco Gemini for free or close to it, would be a "good" deal. Certainly wouldn't bother hooking one up in lieu of a real Atari. ;)

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Posted Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:04 AM

Depends on if you're a hardware collector, but personally, $40 is high for anything that has a better than average chance of needing repair (or being a brick). If it says "Coleco" on it, there's a 327% chance that something on it needs to be fixed--controller jacks, power jack, RF jack, switches, whatever. In most cases it's a fairly simple matter of touching up some solder points. $40 + an hour or two and some elbow grease for a Coleco Gemini isn't a bad deal, but not as good as if it had come with a power supply (any 2600 one works, FYI) or the Gemini Dual Command combo controllers.

FWIW I tend to regard "untested" systems being sold without power supplies, cords, or anything else with a dose of suspicion, especially if the seller mainly deals in gaming (to be fair, the seller in question here may not; OP didn't specify). I consider "untested" to mean "parts" until proven otherwise.

I guess the short and unhelpful version is: it could be a pretty good deal, or it could not. :P :)



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Posted Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:15 PM

I'm not sure if theye do a lot of gaming sales, as their seller page has a lot of random stuff. They seem to sell vintage stuff in general.

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Posted Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:18 PM

What do you want out of this? Coleco Gemini is not particularly interesting or attractive. I'd rather have forty bucks, personally. 



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Posted Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:12 PM

If this is the one not a good deal.

 

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Posted Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:25 PM

I actually like my Gemini. That said, mine was $60 complete, plus the owner's manual. So $40 for a lot of doubt? Pass.

$20, eh...maybe.

Edited by up2knowgood, Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:25 PM.


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Posted Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:12 PM

Nope.. junc.

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Posted Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:34 PM

I have a Gemini, It was my very first system.  Still plays great.  I actually prefer the Gemini controller to the Atari one.  But $40 without cords or controllers?  I'd pass. $20 on the other hand, I'd do it, just for display purposes. 



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Posted Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:00 PM

I'd happily buy a complete one for that much.

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Posted Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:46 AM

Whole lot of haters in here. I bought a Gemini this summer from a local classic game store. It was in perfect working order, and has the best, clearest, interference free RF picture and sound of any console I've ever owned.

I know they can have weak solder joints on the controller ports and power supply jack- I had one as a kid, but those are easily fixed.

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Posted Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:45 AM

Whole lot of haters in here. I bought a Gemini this summer from a local classic game store. It was in perfect working order, and has the best, clearest, interference free RF picture and sound of any console I've ever owned.

Right?  I'm reading some of these replies thinking, "Dang, these MFers are even cheaper than I am! :P :-D " Or are Geminis really just not worth what they used to be?

I got a Gemini a few years back that I had to touch up some solder joints on (par for the course), and it's been a champ ever since. Crystal clear RF--almost as good as the Intellivision. Cool little unit!

I only wish it had four controller ports and a joystick/paddle switch like the Sears Video Arcade II so you didn't need to have Y-splitters to play multiplayer paddle games with the Dual Command controllers (you still can with regular Atari paddles). Then again, that would have required Coleco to spend money; can't have that. ;) :-D 



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Posted Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:54 AM

Right?  I'm reading some of these replies thinking, "Dang, these MFers are even cheaper than I am! :P :-D " Or are Geminis really just not worth what they used to be?

 

Yeah, I'm a hater, guilty as charged.  :)

 

But I don't get it ... 

1. If he already has the cables and hookups, he probably doesn't need this thing

2. If he wants a working system, this could be it, but maybe not, and why spend $40 without being sure? 

3. If he just wants to collect something new, why not something in better condition, known to work, maybe more complete?

 

Not judging, just curious ... 

so Polybius, did you get it? It's been 3 days. If it were me, I'd either get it on sight, or forget about it, easily distracted by some other shiny object. How about you?



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Posted Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:05 PM

 

Yeah, I'm a hater, guilty as charged.  :)

 

But I don't get it ... 

1. If he already has the cables and hookups, he probably doesn't need this thing

2. If he wants a working system, this could be it, but maybe not, and why spend $40 without being sure? 

3. If he just wants to collect something new, why not something in better condition, known to work, maybe more complete?

 

Not judging, just curious ... 

so Polybius, did you get it? It's been 3 days. If it were me, I'd either get it on sight, or forget about it, easily distracted by some other shiny object. How about you?

Not yet, I might, I found another console (CIB) , not the same thing though, that I kinda want more right now, if I win the bidding, I will post pics of that console.  I I lose the bid on the Boxed console, I might go back for it. the Gemini Is a buy it now, so i might be able to pick it up next week.  I admit, I cant spend a whole lot on consoles per week.  

 

I guess you can say, I got distracted by some other shiny object, in this case, a shiny console!  :D

 

I admit, this post has made me more indecisive about it, and I do want it to be working. 


Edited by Polybius, Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:09 PM.


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Posted Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:07 PM

What do you want out of this? Coleco Gemini is not particularly interesting or attractive. I'd rather have forty bucks, personally. 

I thought it would be interesting to have, especially as it would be my first "Clone" console, outside of the PONG clones I have I like to collect different consoles and computers



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Posted Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:11 PM

I don't believe I've ever heard of this 'Gemini'.   I know of the Sears system, but one made by Coleco ?

 

So how did that work back in the day, Coleco making a clone system intended to run 2600 carts?   Wouldn't they be crossing all sorts of legal lines, or am I missing something here?



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Posted Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:22 PM

I don't believe I've ever heard of this 'Gemini'.   I know of the Sears system, but one made by Coleco ?
 
So how did that work back in the day, Coleco making a clone system intended to run 2600 carts?   Wouldn't they be crossing all sorts of legal lines, or am I missing something here?

its essentially a stand alone version of the coleco vision 2600 adapter. And yes, Atari tried to sue coleco for it.

It came with Donkey Kong and Mousetrap as pack-ins, when Atari was selling the 2600 with PAC-Man and combat. It also had a great dual joystick/paddle controller that was way better than the CX-40

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Posted Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:51 PM

its essentially a stand alone version of the coleco vision 2600 adapter. And yes, Atari tried to sue coleco for it.

It came with Donkey Kong and Mousetrap as pack-ins, when Atari was selling the 2600 with PAC-Man and combat. It also had a great dual joystick/paddle controller that was way better than the CX-40

 

Ohhh, right, of course....I knew 'Gemini' looked familiar...

 

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Posted Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:57 PM

 
Ohhh, right, of course....I knew 'Gemini' looked familiar...
 
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Posted Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:34 PM

 
Ohhh, right, of course....I knew 'Gemini' looked familiar...
 
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Cool! I like getting those when I can to go with my Gemini. :)

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Posted Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:54 PM

Cool! I like getting those when I can to go with my Gemini. :)

 

Not sure what this one is, it's sans label.  I got it a year or two ago along with a PAL rarity and a potential prototype.

 

PM an address and I'll send it your way, if you'd like.



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Posted Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:53 PM

I don't believe I've ever heard of this 'Gemini'.   I know of the Sears system, but one made by Coleco ?

 

So how did that work back in the day, Coleco making a clone system intended to run 2600 carts?   Wouldn't they be crossing all sorts of legal lines, or am I missing something here?

My understanding is that when Coleco made a 2600 adapter for the ColecoVision, Atari sued--naturally--and lost, since the 2600 system itself was made from off-the-shelf components. After that, all bets were off, so Coleco ripped out all the stops and produced a straight-up 2600-compatible clone system.

(I think that was also when Mattel came out with the System Changer for the Intellivision II, but I'm not sure on the timeline on that.)



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Posted Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:28 PM

I like the size and design, but it is kind of a cheap system, designed to Coleco's penny-pinching standards. I wouldn't pay $40 for one, but then again, I didn't have to... I think I found one at a yard sale for five dollars back in the 1990s. My sole regret is not being able to mod it for composite video. I mean, I kind of did, but the Gemini's TIA knock off doesn't seem to be a perfect match for the official chip in an Atari 2600, and because I could never figure out the proper pinout, the picture I got out of it was... less than optimal. Someone has since posted an official schematic for the Gemini. Maybe if I ever get it back from MI I'll take another stab at it.

 

My understanding is that the ColecoVision expansion unit is essentially an even further pared down Gemini without its own power supply and A/V connections. All of that is supplied by the CV itself, but can be added to the expansion unit if you wanted a standalone system.


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Posted Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:11 AM

I  had a couple and sold them. They aren't built particularly well and both systems I owned had loose joystick and power ports from loose solder joints. I guess if you get one for cheap or free then fine but I wouldn't spend $40 on one.







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