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#51 Keatah OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Oct 2, 2017 12:32 PM

Once one is made. And if people like it. Then the chances of a way being found are better. Baby steps.



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Posted Mon Oct 2, 2017 1:27 PM

True, there should be no problems with people having wildly unrealistic expectations - this is the Jaguar forum after all.  :D



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Posted Mon Oct 2, 2017 10:33 PM

So? We're not allowed to speculate? :P

 

Nope.



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Posted Tue Oct 3, 2017 2:40 AM

How many of these boards exist? Looking at the PCB I can only see one large chip which is not on the standard board, which will be the CD chip. Most of the component blocks are pretty much lifted and moved from the main Jaguar board, as you'd expect given the time constraints, so the majority would be easy enough to populate. If you could get a good hi-res scan (flat bed scanner) it would be possible to re-lay this out and produce new boards (on other old machines this has happened) -- I know some people would want one.... I'd be stupid enough to buy one... lol. :) It would likely cost about $15-20 a board for something that size, possibly more, the PCB fab house I use doesn't go above 20x20cm, this will probably be a bit larger.

 

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Posted Tue Oct 3, 2017 5:44 PM

I'd buy one. Either just an unpulated motherboard that is a replica of the prototype duo motherboard, or a fully populated replica motherboard, or a fully functional jag duo including plastic case.  I guess my room is probably full of concentrated fumes from my jag. 


Edited by sirlynxalot, Tue Oct 3, 2017 5:45 PM.


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Posted Tue Oct 3, 2017 6:25 PM

I'd buy one.


As surely would others, but beyond the fun speculation it gets into reality territory...
 
Something along the lines of a) is it possible at all b) is it feasible in any quantity more than one and c) if not, would you pay $20K for it...    :)

 

 

 

 

That being said - if SainT is motivated enough he will have one, as he's a mad genius.    :D



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Posted Tue Oct 3, 2017 6:55 PM

It's like having a handheld jaguar, no one really needs it, but it would be cool to own one. (Ps someone sell me one)

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Posted Wed Oct 4, 2017 2:03 AM

That being said - if SainT is motivated enough he will have one, as he's a mad genius.    :D

 

Lol, if I can get hold of a decent scan of the PCB I'd look at knocking a few repros out! I honestly couldn't help but try and get one working if I had a PCB.... even if its just to the point of having a Jaguar without CD working on that PCB.

 

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Posted Wed Oct 4, 2017 12:35 PM

How many of these boards exist? Looking at the PCB I can only see one large chip which is not on the standard board, which will be the CD chip. Most of the component blocks are pretty much lifted and moved from the main Jaguar board, as you'd expect given the time constraints, so the majority would be easy enough to populate. If you could get a good hi-res scan (flat bed scanner) it would be possible to re-lay this out and produce new boards (on other old machines this has happened) -- I know some people would want one.... I'd be stupid enough to buy one... lol. :) It would likely cost about $15-20 a board for something that size, possibly more, the PCB fab house I use doesn't go above 20x20cm, this will probably be a bit larger.

 

Like most hardware geeks, I can't help but be fascinated in hardware that never made it...

 

Will be getting high resolution scans of the board sent over to you soon but will be a few weeks. May be able to provide the board films and/or PCB files as well, which would make matters a lot easier all around. There are currently 3 boards that I'm aware of existing, I'm also going to try to see if I can get scans of at least one of the others for comparison sake to make sure both are the same.



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Posted Wed Oct 4, 2017 12:40 PM

 

Will be getting high resolution scans of the board sent over to you soon but will be a few weeks. May be able to provide the board films and/or PCB files as well, which would make matters a lot easier all around. There are currently 3 boards that I'm aware of existing, I'm also going to try to see if I can get scans of at least one of the others for comparison sake to make sure both are the same.

 

Very cool, if there are gerber files for this that would make things very easy. Otherwise it'll be a bit of a long process redrawing it. Regardless, all good! :D



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Posted Wed Oct 4, 2017 12:52 PM

Does this quality as Atari' s last prototype console or is that the jaguar 2?

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Posted Wed Oct 4, 2017 1:28 PM

Does this quality as Atari' s last prototype console or is that the jaguar 2?

 

I'd say Jaguar 2, as the JagDuo is just a mashup of existing technology. :)



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Posted Wed Oct 4, 2017 11:42 PM

Did anyone find out who bought the cases then? JagDuo would kind of be more interesting to see than the Ataribox... hell, so would the Jaguar2.

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Posted Wed Oct 4, 2017 11:44 PM

Lol, if I can get hold of a decent scan of the PCB I'd look at knocking a few repros out! I honestly couldn't help but try and get one working if I had a PCB.... even if its just to the point of having a Jaguar without CD working on that PCB.
 
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You have the right kind of wrong.

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Posted Thu Oct 5, 2017 2:36 AM

Very cool, if there are gerber files for this that would make things very easy. Otherwise it'll be a bit of a long process redrawing it. Regardless, all good! :D

In unrelated news, the Jaguar SD cartridge just got postponed by 3 months :D


Edited by Zerosquare, Thu Oct 5, 2017 2:36 AM.


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Posted Thu Oct 5, 2017 4:16 AM

In unrelated news, the Jaguar SD cartridge just got postponed by 3 months :D

 

Lol, not going to happen... ;)



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Posted Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:15 AM

Any more news on this? :)



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Posted Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:20 PM

Any more news on this? :)


Finally got the correct part number late Friday evening - I was way off on the originally submitted one due to resolution of image. Currently waiting to hear back from the PCB manufacturer as I just followed up with them yesterday.

Will post more info as I get it. If that proves to be a bust, ultra hi-res scans will follow but I really hope it doesn't come to that.

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Posted Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:48 PM

Finally got the correct part number late Friday evening - I was way off on the originally submitted one due to resolution of image. Currently waiting to hear back from the PCB manufacturer as I just followed up with them yesterday.
Will post more info as I get it. If that proves to be a bust, ultra hi-res scans will follow but I really hope it doesn't come to that.



Look man nobody cares. Just go play your PSVR already and forget about Jagduo, Jaguar 2, Jaguar CD, co-Jag its all obsolete technology anyway. Lol
But send me all your Jaguar stuff first. I'll give you $20. ;)

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Posted Fri Nov 3, 2017 8:43 AM

Any more news on this? :)

 

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Posted Fri Nov 3, 2017 8:45 AM

Oooooh, it's so pink! :lol:

#72 SainT OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Nov 3, 2017 11:09 AM

Oooh. Nice. :D

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Posted Fri Nov 3, 2017 11:32 AM

Interesting choice of layers colors :D



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Posted Sat Nov 4, 2017 9:00 AM

Looks pretty amazing.  Shame they never moved forward with it.



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Posted Tue Nov 7, 2017 2:50 AM

Damn, the PCB is not compatible with a ScatBox or CatBox as they separated the video connector (top) from the DSP connector (small connector on the right) :grin:

But that makes me wonder what the big connector on the right is for? It has more pins than the video connector.






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