Calibus Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Hi, I recently bought an 800 via ebay which joins an 800XL I bought on ebay some time ago. The 800XL didn't come with a video cable, but the 800 did - so I'd like to test out both of them with a TV set. The video cable I have is a 5 pin DIN to 4 RCA plugs. Red, White, Yellow, Black. My TV can handle component and S-Video and I am assuming composite also. I took a picture of the cable ends randomly plugged into the TV just for the ease of being able to show the cable ends and the TV connectors - the TV was off at the time... My TV has two input choices for this block of connectors "AV" and "S-Video" I am assuming that composite and component are both handled via "AV" and the standard S-Video connector is utilized when set to "S-Video". In "AV" mode with just the yellow connector (Universal color for composite in my experience) plugged into the TV - I get nothing. Trying some other simple arrangement also resulted in nothing. Is my best bet to get another cable with a standard S-Video end and go that route? The auction pictures showed it (800) generating output - so I'm sure it can - I just need a little help doing it. Any suggestions appreciated. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Because different computers used different pins for things, the colors on the cable aren't always useful. You can easily identify them with a continuity meter. http://www.atarimagazines.com/v6n12/VCRConnection.JPG http://www.atariage.com/forums/uploads/post-119-1053723058_thumb.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bob1200xl Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Black - AUDIO Red - LUMA -- monochrome component of s-video signal Yellow - CHROMA -- color component of a s-video signal Only on 800 and 130XE, not 800XL or 1200XL - use COMPOSITE lead for CHROMA on those systems White - COMPOSITE video ...except when it's different Bob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russg Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Monitor Jack (all but 400, N. American 600XL, XE Game System, SECAM systems): 3 1 5 4 2 1. Composite Luminance 2. Ground 3. Audio Output 4. Composite Video 5. Composite Chroma (not on 800XL,1200XL; grounded on 600XL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) Just try all RCA connectors.....thats what i always do. Edited October 8, 2017 by Level42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Just try all RCA connectors.....thats what i always do.When you plug video into audio in you‘ll hear it immediately. They simply didn‘t use the yellow is video, red/white is audio standard back then. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+skr Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Did you just put black to an output? My guess is, you don´t have a composite signal, so you need only two leads. In my case (four leads cable) white is video (which goes into CVBS) and yellow is audio (which goes into left audio in). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibus Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 Did you just put black to an output? My guess is, you don´t have a composite signal, so you need only two leads. In my case (four leads cable) white is video (which goes into CVBS) and yellow is audio (which goes into left audio in). They were just plugged into jacks randomly so I could take a picture showing the cable ends and the panel on the TV at the same time - w/out having to hold the cables in the place. The TV was off. If I'm interpreting the diagrams correctly - my cable pinout is thus (Looking at the pins on the cable's DIN connector) 1 3 4 5 2 1 - Red - Composite Luminance 4 - White - Composite Video 2 - Gnd 5 - Yellow - Composite Chroma 3 - Black - Audio (Assuming I transposed my plug pins to the socket pins correctly) So I was way off assuming Yellow was composite. I disassembled the 800 so I could scrub the upper and lower shells - I was quite surprised to see the amount of shielding in this thing, a far cry from the zilch shields in my TRS-80 Model 1 I'll put it back together tomorrow night and try using the white wire for composite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Composite = CVBS on the back of your TV. Luma/Chroma = S-Video on the back of your TV. You would need an adapter to convert the 2xRCA's to a single standard S-Video plug, something like this: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Atari-Commodore-S-Video-Adapter-Split-Chroma-Luma-Video-to-S-Video-/332351048998?hash=item4d61aa8d26:g:8Q4AAOSw~gRVhfY2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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