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#1 manterola OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:31 PM

I can load Berserk with UnoCart(which it is BTW the almost unique piece of hardware I use to load everything since I got it), but I cannot start the game... I guess there might be something obvious, but I couldn't make it.
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#2 Atari Nut OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:19 PM

It's only a prototype.  Does anyone know what's incomplete with it?



#3 SS OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:48 PM

Try this one.  It works just fine with my UNO Cart.

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#4 Paul Westphal OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:28 PM

Hit start. Maybe your keyboard is going out. Fire button just raises the level. FYI - Hitting either option or select upon first boot ( a few times ) will give you the voices with different pitch and speed.

#5 kiwilove OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:02 PM

I could never get far into this game - the better game which is more playable for me - was K-razy Shootout, which is clone of this kind of game.

Still not perfect - but at least you could get further and further into it...

 

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#6 slx ONLINE  

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Posted Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:15 AM

Or even better, try Shamus. It has robot-shooting action plus a real maze you have to navigate and remember, not just random rooms.



#7 MrFish ONLINE  

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Posted Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:59 AM

I could never get far into this game - the better game which is more playable for me - was K-razy Shootout, which is clone of this kind of game.

Still not perfect - but at least you could get further and further into it...

 

Two things missing though:

1. Evil Otto

2. Audio Insults

 

And 3rd, I prefer the scoring system in Berzerk.

 

I agree though, Berzerk could be a little easier or at least have selectable difficulty levels.

It's one of those games you can get good at if you play it enough and play seriously.

Definitely not for a lot of casual, relaxed game players, if you expect to get very far.



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Posted Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:46 AM

My biggest complaint on these types of games is how shooting is controlled.

 

You either need Robotron-style (two joystick) controls or your player needs to be able to "lock" into a shooting position (direction) by simply tapping in a direction (or will shoot in whatever direction you were last moving), so you can shoot when you're just standing.


Edited by MrFish, Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:58 AM.


#9 Rybags OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:52 AM

Arcade Berzerk is an absolute turd to play on the real machine, from memory a lifeless overly long joystick that barely self centres, it's actually easier with a crappy home joystick.



#10 Level42 OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:15 PM

Having owned a Berzerk arcade machine I'm appalled.

 

Berzerk is brilliant in it's original shape and yes I had the bat-stick.

 

The key to solving it's drawbacks was getting the reflective disc positioned EXACTLY ad the right hight. The factory job was flaky on that, and _that_ caused the bad reputation of the stick....



#11 Level42 OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:25 PM

My biggest complaint on these types of games is how shooting is controlled.

 

You either need Robotron-style (two joystick) controls or your player needs to be able to "lock" into a shooting position (direction) by simply tapping in a direction (or will shoot in whatever direction you were last moving), so you can shoot when you're just standing.

 

Actually that limit to me, is the charm of the game.

 

Berzerk was the inspiration for Robotron.....so pay some respect ;) ;) 



#12 MrFish ONLINE  

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Posted Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:48 PM

Actually that limit to me, is the charm of the game.

 

It's an unrealistic limitation, which I think would improve the game if removed.

 

 

Berzerk was the inspiration for Robotron.....so pay some respect ;) ;)

 

No disrespect intended at all. Berzerk is a great classic, and K-razy Shoot-Out pales in comparison for a lot of reasons (aside from the ones I already listed). And, yes, easy to see Robotron was inspired by it.


Edited by MrFish, Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:03 PM.


#13 Level42 OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:31 PM

It's an unrealistic limitation.....

Then again.....walking around in endless mazes shooting endless robots, an immortal and deadly happy smile face that chases you ain't all that realistic anyway....

Alan created this game following a dream.....I guess a nightmare he had.....as such he truly captured it.

I find the endless feeling of the game rather intriguing......a bit like the movie The Cube.....you know it's pointless.....and that death will wait at the end....but there's nothing else to do then survive.....in fact....sometimes life actually feels this way....

Did you guys ever see the full board set of Berzerk arcade......it's insane.....if you see it, you will respect the A8 version even more..... :)

Edited by Level42, Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:33 PM.


#14 MrFish ONLINE  

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Posted Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:17 PM

My biggest complaint on these types of games is how shooting is controlled.

 

You either need Robotron-style (two joystick) controls or your player needs to be able to "lock" into a shooting position (direction) by simply tapping in a direction (or will shoot in whatever direction you were last moving), so you can shoot when you're just standing.

 

I got that backwards. You can't run and shoot at the same time. You can sort of stutter-step run/shoot, if you let off the button quickly after each shot.

 

I wonder what it would be like to use a rotary control for aiming and then a joystick with the button on top for running and firing.



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Posted Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:25 AM

There is a trick in Berzerk, I'm guessing they just didn't program it out, where you can "scoot" along by moving the joystick into the diagonal and back - this way you can outrun Otto! It makes the game more playable and you get further which also increases the intensity. Great game, as is K-Razy Shootout.

 

More info on both of these games (and other clones) in these HSC threads:

http://atariage.com/...ound-5-berzerk/

http://atariage.com/...rk/?hl= berzerk



#16 manterola OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:19 PM

I just discover that the cart dump version is the one I cannot start. If I press start the game made something similar to a reset.
The xex version posted in this thread worked without problems.

Hit start. Maybe your keyboard is going out. Fire button just raises the level. FYI - Hitting either option or select upon first boot ( a few times ) will give you the voices with different pitch and speed.


Edited by manterola, Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:23 PM.





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