TheTIGuy Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 You've got to have enough lead to stop the particles. We're not just protecting against a Carrington event, but a nuclear blast that emits all kinds of stuff. *20 years later...* I BROUGHT THE PENCILS!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krslam Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 EMP would probably fry my pacemaker so I'm not too worried about what it'll do to my games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Are pacemakers protected against stunguns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Are pacemakers protected against stunguns? Probably, at least according to studies in pigs. Animal testing FTW! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17491105 Do electrical stun guns (TASER-X26) affect the functional integrity of implantable pacemakers and defibrillators? Lakkireddy D1, Khasnis A, Antenacci J, Ryshcon K, Chung MK, Wallick D, Kowalewski W, Patel D, Mlcochova H, Kondur A, Vacek J, Martin D, Natale A, Tchou P. Author information Abstract AIMS: High voltage electric current can adversely affect pacemakers (PM) and implantable cardioverter-defibrillator (ICD). The standard shock from an electrical stun gun (TASER- X26, TASER International, Scottsdale, AZ) consists of a 5-s long application of high voltage, low current pulses at 19 pulses per second. Its effect on the functional integrity of PM and ICDs is unknown. METHODS AND RESULTS: We tested the functional integrity of nine PMs and seven ICDs in a swine model after a standard stun gun shock. A transvenous, dual coil, bi-polar ICD lead (St Jude-SP01) and a PM lead were placed in the right ventricular (RV) apex and connected to pulse generators buried in the pre-pectoral pocket. The two darts were placed at the sternal notch (SN) and apex of the heart bracketing the device pocket. Standard neuromuscular incapacitating (NMI) discharges were delivered. Functional parameters of the devices and leads were checked before and after the shocks. The mean pacing thresholds, sensing thresholds, pacing impedances, and defibrillation coil impedances of the ICD lead were similar before and after the shocks. Similarly, pacing thresholds, sensing thresholds, and impedances of the PM lead were not significantly different before and after the shocks. No significant change was noted in battery voltage and projected longevity. Implantable cardioverter-defibrillator generators detected the NMI impulses at a mean cycle length of 176 +/- 20 ms with detection to charge time of 5.9 +/- 1.5 s. Shock delivery was aborted in all tests as tachycardia detection abruptly terminated at the end of the 5 s NMI application. None of the devices exhibited power on reset (POR), elective replacement indicator (ERI), or noise mode behaviour after the shock. CONCLUSION: Pacemakers and ICD generators and leads functions were not affected by the tested standard 5 s stun gun shocks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djour Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 The Road may be the single most depressing movie I have ever seen. All animals are dead, all plants are dead, there is no hope whatsoever. I love playing Fallout. Maybe it's the campy 1950's feel, but at least there is food and society has carried on in some form. Back to the OP, as others have stated, if it's not running (plugged in, batteries, engine, etc), EMP should not effect it. Once the wave has passed, it will be safe to turn everything back on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Back to the OP, as others have stated, if it's not running (plugged in, batteries, engine, etc), EMP should not effect it. Once the wave has passed, it will be safe to turn everything back on. Thanks for ruining the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djour Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) How do I embed instead of attaching thumb? Edited October 18, 2017 by djour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CatPix Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Puerto Rico hasn't really had power since the hurricane hit a few weeks ago, and society seems to be rolling along just fine there (albeit they could use way more mainland assistance than they're getting). I don't buy the hooplah that society is always on the verge of collapsing into pillaging gangs; if that were the case the disasters that befall areas around the globe annually would lead to nations collapsing pretty much constantly. I can see a difference in that "Puerto Ricans" (?) know that the "outside world" is running fine, so they don't have to resort to pillage to survive. Now if the whole world had no electricity...that could be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Yes, Puerto Ricans is accurate. They're American citizens but PR is a territory, without the powers that a full US state would have. I don't know what they know about the "outside world" since their island was flattened and the power grid knocked out hard. It's possible there's not much left to loot. They're drinking bad water in many places. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIO2 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 People in the past survived a long while without electricity. It just would not be as much fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djour Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 People in the past didn't have electricity to begin with. Now our society is based upon it. Lights, information, banking, refrigeration, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIO2 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) It would be a challenge (living without electricity) but, if people would not freak out, I think it wouldn't be as bad as some make it out to be. Edited October 18, 2017 by SIO2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) I don't know what they know about the "outside world" since their island was flattened and the power grid knocked out hard. It's possible there's not much left to loot. They're drinking bad water in many places. First they knew that the hurricane would hit them, and then, they have the POTUS visiting them, which is kind of enough for them to conclude that the USa din't ceased to exist overnight along with their island. And people have radios, too. Medium waves, Long waves, and Short waves can travel for hundred of kilometers, and a radio can run days on batteries... Edited October 19, 2017 by CatPix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercylon Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Yuck, that trailer is what turned me off of Costner for years. I do not think the post-apocalypse will have as many inspirational speeches or rousing music. The screaming seems realistic enough though, I suppose. I haven't seen the movie of The Road, the book was plenty for me, but I guess we can all agree that life after [unspeakable event] will be nasty, brutish, and short. Just as depressing: These Final Hours. Should still be on Netflix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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